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1968 - Orphans / Re: 8N477196 M22

« on: August 04, 2016, 06:07:38 PM »

Even though he wasn't at the Muncie plant, I would have to let John comment on this. He may have inside information.

Ed

Sorry, can't shed any light on this; many others (like Jerry and "Crash") are much more knowledgeable than I am with those details.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 22, 2016, 03:38:59 PM »

Beautiful car for sure!  It's so nice to be able to see these rare unmolested cars after all the years that have passed.
I'm trying to study some of these option packages and learn the details of them.  Since this car is an X33, it has the Z21 style trim option (I think).
Are the door edge guards somehow part of that?, or a separate option?, or maybe just a dealer add-on?
Also from what I gather the Z21 should have the rear quarter louver accents and it looks like maybe this car doesn't have them?  The side view wasn't direct, so I may not be seeing them.

Help a newbie out!
 

p

See reply #2 on page 1 of this thread, which explains why the quarter panel louvers (and the Camaro nameplate on the fender) are missing; the quarter louvers are part of Z21, which is part of every X33 car. The door edge guards were part of the Appearance Guard Group, and could be ordered separately (as they were on this car) as RPO B93.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 21, 2016, 12:09:14 AM »

<<Wow! Great find, beautiful car! Ours were 530 apart on the line, and our brithdays are a day apart, too. Would love a couple pics of the lap belts (as bolted to the floor next to the console). Mine now have a twist (when worn) that I don't believe was there pre-restoration.>>

Photo below is the driver's side lap belt stack, which has never been touched - I haven't noted any "twist"

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 19, 2016, 02:39:25 PM »

Everybody wants real sill plates with the riveted-on Fisher Body emblems, but you only find that on assembly-line parts; these are originals. The RC-15 radiator cap is original, and still seals 15 psi with no problem.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 19, 2016, 02:14:37 PM »

The door latches show the paint process (latches installed in the Body Shop), and you do NOT want to try and remove the door edge guards from 47-year-old lacquer. The 5045572 wiper motor, dated "036 9 B F" [February 5th, 1969] is original.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 19, 2016, 01:53:52 PM »

The cluster has never been touched, and the Z87 instrument panel simulated wood trim is all original. Look closely at the second photo and you can see the one-piece kickpads.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 19, 2016, 01:43:16 PM »

Master cylinder is the original 5468309, dated "45" (February 14th), stainless sleeved by White Post Restorations. Original "9204" booster, back of tab dated "55" (February 24th). Metering valve and distribution block are original, and the original rear line proportioning valve below the driver's door is dated "016-9".

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 18, 2016, 03:57:34 PM »

One of the great frustrations of a Camaro restoration is the door opening and roof rail weatherstrips and window "fuzzies", as the reproduction parts don't fit very well at all; all of those parts on this car are 47 years old, and all appear as new, including the upper glass guides and anti-blowout clips, and the original outer "fuzzies" are round, including the end treatments.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 18, 2016, 03:40:23 PM »

Chevrolet borrowed the  car for about ten days to take it to Las Vegas for the September 2006 Dealer Business Conference, where they had four 69's on the stage with the "quickie" reveal of the 2010 Camaro prototype; then Hagerty borrowed it for a studio shoot for a feature issue of their "Camaro World" magazine.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 18, 2016, 02:58:07 PM »

It's unusual to see a '69 with a rear defogger, but this car has one, and both speeds work. The blower, wire harness, and recirculation grille were installed by Fisher Body, and Chevrolet pierced the switch hole in the cluster and installed the switch.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 18, 2016, 02:31:24 PM »

I gather that's some type of tape used to plug the emblem holes under the spoiler ? Surprisingly, it looks like it's held up well over the years, considering.

If you look at the photo of the spoiler stud/nut/sealer, about an inch toward 11 o'clock from the stud you'll see a hole for the production emblem pin - you'll see a woven pattern in that hole, which is the texture of the factory sealer tape applied originally by Fisher Body.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 17, 2016, 06:11:20 PM »

These pics show the cowl tag, the green "T" below it, the acorn nuts on the rearward rear spoiler attachments and the stud-and-sealer nuts on the forward rear spoiler attachments. This car was built about two weeks before the "short" rear spoiler disappeared.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 17, 2016, 04:59:43 PM »

Photos below show the plastic luggage protector cap on the left rear shock stud, the two different diameter trunk lid torsion rods for the D80 (.225" and .275" diameter), the spatter paint on the trunk lid lock, and the centerline location of the trunk lid weatherstrip joint.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 17, 2016, 04:30:31 PM »

I noticed the lines on the back and think mine were trimmed. I have a rear set also. We're they an option or what came in the car?

They were part of the optional Appearance Guard Group, or could be ordered separately as RPO B37, Front & Rear Floor Mats.

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Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28

« on: July 17, 2016, 02:38:50 PM »

Great car John. I have a set of floor mats but they look too big. It looks like your driver side lays on the tunnel?

Yes, it does - the mats were designed to fit 3 or 4 different car lines, and there are raised lines on the back where they were to be trimmed to fit each application; hardly anyone ever trimmed them. They weren't pretty, but they did a great job protecting the carpets.