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Originality / Re: 68 L78 Lifter Valley Splash Shield
« on: June 13, 2017, 08:26:46 PM »
The one in the photo looks like the one that actually fits. The one stated as original.
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Originality / Re: 68 L78 Lifter Valley Splash Shield
« on: June 13, 2017, 08:23:05 PM »
The one I had I purchased about 5 years ago from HBC- I got another one from them and it fits perfectly.
In reference to the two shown in the pic, I believe the lower one is the one which actually fits.
Didn't get a good look at it before I gave it to my engine guy.
In reference to the two shown in the pic, I believe the lower one is the one which actually fits.
Didn't get a good look at it before I gave it to my engine guy.
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Originality / 68 L78 Lifter Valley Splash Shield
« on: June 07, 2017, 08:23:37 PM »
Did the L78 in 68 have an oil splash tray/baffle in the lifter valley? I purchased one from Heartbeat, of which they state is an "original GM part" (?) and there are interference issues with the bottom of the 069 intake.
Anybody have a pic of an original one, or had a similar experience such as this?
Thanks.
Anybody have a pic of an original one, or had a similar experience such as this?
Thanks.
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Originality / 1968 RS Horns
« on: June 13, 2016, 08:46:58 PM »
Hello.
Can anyone post a photo showing the correct horns for a 68 Rally Sport? I understand these differ from the non-RS models?
Correct numbers also?
Any help greatly appreciated
Can anyone post a photo showing the correct horns for a 68 Rally Sport? I understand these differ from the non-RS models?
Correct numbers also?
Any help greatly appreciated
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Restoration / Re: Spare tire hold down bracket location ???
« on: September 03, 2015, 08:49:46 PM »
Wow, this sure generated a load of interest!
So, at this point, there is no compelling evidence of the bracket location in a Coupe differing from small/big block(?).
So, at this point, there is no compelling evidence of the bracket location in a Coupe differing from small/big block(?).
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Originality / 68 Big Block Coupe Spare Tire Floor Bracket Location
« on: September 02, 2015, 08:34:01 PM »
Can anyone help with the location of the spare tire bracket which spotwelds to the trunk floor on a '68 Big Block (L35) Coupe?
Prior - to - purchase floor replacement, and whoever installed the floor neglected to transfer this bracket; I am of the understanding/rumors that the location of this bracket differs from coupe/convertible as well as Big and Small block. Is this true?
Can anyone post the correct measurements? Thank you.
Prior - to - purchase floor replacement, and whoever installed the floor neglected to transfer this bracket; I am of the understanding/rumors that the location of this bracket differs from coupe/convertible as well as Big and Small block. Is this true?
Can anyone post the correct measurements? Thank you.
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Originality / Re: Folding rear seat option
« on: July 25, 2012, 04:03:11 AM »
This is a response to a topic from 2006; Fold Down rear seat.
Reference to "RPO Options spreadsheet"; how do I access that?
Thank you.
Reference to "RPO Options spreadsheet"; how do I access that?
Thank you.
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General Discussion / Re: What rare part would you like to see a top quality reproduction produced?
« on: May 29, 2012, 08:49:48 AM »
I realize I am a few months late on this one, but as far as the repro parts issues, the body/glass weatherstrips are surely an area which has a tremendous influence on the overall finished product.
My experiences with repro weatherstrips go back 15 + years to my 55-57 Chevy era. The only thing you could do was adjust the door strikers in all the way, slam the heck out of the door, and let the car sit in the sun for a week. the same procedure had to be applied to a '63 Ford Falcon Sprint; the products I used were from the "best" manufacturers.
It seems that very little, if any has changed with the materials/manufacturing methods of these products.
Exterior trim quality also leaves a lot to be desired.
Dash pads, sheetmetal, the list could go on to pretty much cover the entire spectrum of what is available reproduction for these (and all other special interest vehicles for that matter).
I have long since "had it" with reading the same old cliches "made from factory tooling" (yeah, right, how did you get your hands on that, not to mention shipping the mega-ton stamping die all the way to china!), "official licensed XX product"; it sure does'nt show in your final product, or is it a reflection of the slave-like wages which do very little to influence the Chinese workers' incentive to produce a quality product.
For the past few years, I have been watching people pay exorbitant prices on ebay for N.O.S. parts that the final bid is 5, 10, sometimes 20 times that of the current available repro part.
This says a lot about the knowledge of the quality of the repro parts.
The restoration hobby/industry is a bit more tightly-knitted than say, the discount auto parts store items many of us buy; major chain store repro water pumps, etc; if you have to hog out a bracket to make the thing fit, you probably will do just that; most people just want to keep their everyday A-to-B cars functioning, and will probably forget about the issues associated with the low-priced alternative parts.
But in this hobby, a lot of cars you see at the show have been put together by the owner present. People talk, as evidenced by this popular topic on this particular forum, for example.
I am not rich, but if someone (and that someone could be you) were to make, for example, wheel opening moldings, which were proven (by the end consumer, which would be a strong advertising point) to be identical in:
1.Fit
2.Quality of anodized finish
3.Material gauge of and same materials
All of these parameters are based on the original G.M. article.
People would either be standing in line, or budgeting for your product at nearly TWICE the price of what is currently on the market, and you would be enjoying, because you earned it, a FAVORABLE REPUTATION, a status it seems that has been ditched in favor of the almighty buck, (China/Taiwan) at least for this particular industry.
Follow the same principles to this and to the rest of whatever you produce, and keep it as proportionally price justifiable/affordable as possible and you can't go wrong.
If you do follow-through with this venture, please, we certainly do not need any more (no names necessary) inferior parts manufacturers/suppliers/vendors.
Personally, I have 2 1st gen Camaros that I have been collecting parts for, for over 7 years, either good/restorable/replatable OEM and NOS parts. Repro parts will be purchased as a last resort, based on my 55-57 and other experiences, and these will be items that will be installed near the end of the restoration, with hopes that by time this happens, there would have been a major change in the quality of repro parts.
Or, I am able to afford $1,300.00 for a pair of N.O.S. door weatherstrips.
Beacuse there sure isn't anything as good at this time.
My level of standards are not for everybody, but when you start talking about repro parts quality, again, it certainly generates a lot of interest.
Just my 2 cents.
My experiences with repro weatherstrips go back 15 + years to my 55-57 Chevy era. The only thing you could do was adjust the door strikers in all the way, slam the heck out of the door, and let the car sit in the sun for a week. the same procedure had to be applied to a '63 Ford Falcon Sprint; the products I used were from the "best" manufacturers.
It seems that very little, if any has changed with the materials/manufacturing methods of these products.
Exterior trim quality also leaves a lot to be desired.
Dash pads, sheetmetal, the list could go on to pretty much cover the entire spectrum of what is available reproduction for these (and all other special interest vehicles for that matter).
I have long since "had it" with reading the same old cliches "made from factory tooling" (yeah, right, how did you get your hands on that, not to mention shipping the mega-ton stamping die all the way to china!), "official licensed XX product"; it sure does'nt show in your final product, or is it a reflection of the slave-like wages which do very little to influence the Chinese workers' incentive to produce a quality product.
For the past few years, I have been watching people pay exorbitant prices on ebay for N.O.S. parts that the final bid is 5, 10, sometimes 20 times that of the current available repro part.
This says a lot about the knowledge of the quality of the repro parts.
The restoration hobby/industry is a bit more tightly-knitted than say, the discount auto parts store items many of us buy; major chain store repro water pumps, etc; if you have to hog out a bracket to make the thing fit, you probably will do just that; most people just want to keep their everyday A-to-B cars functioning, and will probably forget about the issues associated with the low-priced alternative parts.
But in this hobby, a lot of cars you see at the show have been put together by the owner present. People talk, as evidenced by this popular topic on this particular forum, for example.
I am not rich, but if someone (and that someone could be you) were to make, for example, wheel opening moldings, which were proven (by the end consumer, which would be a strong advertising point) to be identical in:
1.Fit
2.Quality of anodized finish
3.Material gauge of and same materials
All of these parameters are based on the original G.M. article.
People would either be standing in line, or budgeting for your product at nearly TWICE the price of what is currently on the market, and you would be enjoying, because you earned it, a FAVORABLE REPUTATION, a status it seems that has been ditched in favor of the almighty buck, (China/Taiwan) at least for this particular industry.
Follow the same principles to this and to the rest of whatever you produce, and keep it as proportionally price justifiable/affordable as possible and you can't go wrong.
If you do follow-through with this venture, please, we certainly do not need any more (no names necessary) inferior parts manufacturers/suppliers/vendors.
Personally, I have 2 1st gen Camaros that I have been collecting parts for, for over 7 years, either good/restorable/replatable OEM and NOS parts. Repro parts will be purchased as a last resort, based on my 55-57 and other experiences, and these will be items that will be installed near the end of the restoration, with hopes that by time this happens, there would have been a major change in the quality of repro parts.
Or, I am able to afford $1,300.00 for a pair of N.O.S. door weatherstrips.
Beacuse there sure isn't anything as good at this time.
My level of standards are not for everybody, but when you start talking about repro parts quality, again, it certainly generates a lot of interest.
Just my 2 cents.
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Originality / Re: Alternator- Early '69 Build 61 amp
« on: May 05, 2012, 02:54:54 AM »
I had my '68 alternator rebuilt and restored by John Pirkle in Auguta. GA. You can Google his name. It was $150.00 (about 4 years ago), and it looked very nice, what was plated was replated, date coded diodes included. Very satisfied with it.
I looked at some of my cores, and noticed 1102843 (yes,"2" as stamped; application?) and 1100843 and the 1st "0" is a bit fainter than the 2nd. possibly slightly smaller also. Dates are A 69 and B 69.
I looked at some of my cores, and noticed 1102843 (yes,"2" as stamped; application?) and 1100843 and the 1st "0" is a bit fainter than the 2nd. possibly slightly smaller also. Dates are A 69 and B 69.
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Originality / Re: '68 Molded Door Panel Pull Strap mounting/reinforcement plate?
« on: April 18, 2012, 03:15:47 AM »
Actually, I was referring to the door itself, not the trim panel.
Thanks,
Rod.
Thanks,
Rod.
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Originality / '68 Molded Door Panel Pull Strap mounting/reinforcement plate?
« on: April 16, 2012, 06:31:29 AM »
i am converting my 68 interior to deluxe, the molded door panels.
Is there a reinforcement/mounting plate for the strap mounting screws that bolts to the door shell? I have seen other GM cars with similar straps, and they do have a a plate which attaches to the door with sheetmetal screws which is of thicker metal than the door.
Anybody seen these original on a Camaro? Photo?
Thanks,
Rod.
Is there a reinforcement/mounting plate for the strap mounting screws that bolts to the door shell? I have seen other GM cars with similar straps, and they do have a a plate which attaches to the door with sheetmetal screws which is of thicker metal than the door.
Anybody seen these original on a Camaro? Photo?
Thanks,
Rod.
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Originality / Re: 68 396 Power Steering Pump
« on: April 02, 2012, 09:38:43 PM »
Bob,
I removed an original clamp that mounts to the gearbox this weekend from a '70 Nova, exactly the same thing as in Steve's photos.
The Phosphate coating was well-preserved due to this car being an oil leaker since day one.
No vendor stamp anywhere, but it is phosphate plated dark gray. This car was 100% bone-stock V8 4-door.
No evidence of any spring clamp or similar retainer holding the hoses together.
The return line had the sleeve around it, roughly 8 inches long, which strongly resembles Steve's, looks identical to the rubber copper pipe protector/insulation that you see at Home Depot (I have never seen the other protective sleeve as on Steve's pressure line, and I have stripped many of these and other similar GM cars over the past 30 years), but maybe his is original. If not, it sure looks like a smart idea in the interest of protection.
Rod.
I removed an original clamp that mounts to the gearbox this weekend from a '70 Nova, exactly the same thing as in Steve's photos.
The Phosphate coating was well-preserved due to this car being an oil leaker since day one.
No vendor stamp anywhere, but it is phosphate plated dark gray. This car was 100% bone-stock V8 4-door.
No evidence of any spring clamp or similar retainer holding the hoses together.
The return line had the sleeve around it, roughly 8 inches long, which strongly resembles Steve's, looks identical to the rubber copper pipe protector/insulation that you see at Home Depot (I have never seen the other protective sleeve as on Steve's pressure line, and I have stripped many of these and other similar GM cars over the past 30 years), but maybe his is original. If not, it sure looks like a smart idea in the interest of protection.
Rod.
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Originality / Re: 68 396 Power Steering Pump
« on: April 02, 2012, 03:01:28 PM »
Steve:
Thanks for the additional info.
Your approx. 15 degree estimation is about on par with the photo of the one on the table, of which is apparently a correct pump.
This wil be a big help now in finding the correct pump.
Thanks
Rod.
Thanks for the additional info.
Your approx. 15 degree estimation is about on par with the photo of the one on the table, of which is apparently a correct pump.
This wil be a big help now in finding the correct pump.
Thanks
Rod.
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Originality / Re: 68 396 Power Steering Pump
« on: March 31, 2012, 04:26:54 PM »
:)Thanks, Steve! That bit of info does help.
Rod.
Rod.
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Originality / Re: 68 396 Power Steering Pump
« on: March 29, 2012, 02:30:54 AM »
Steve;
Thanks for the photos.
One question though; the return line, is it curved upward where the hose attaches or downward?
Also, does it look to be the same clock angle/configuration/bend as the one in the photo posted (showing the one sitting on a patio table, with the blue protector on the nipple)??
Thanks for your efforts on this increasingly-interesting topic.
Rod.
Thanks for the photos.
One question though; the return line, is it curved upward where the hose attaches or downward?
Also, does it look to be the same clock angle/configuration/bend as the one in the photo posted (showing the one sitting on a patio table, with the blue protector on the nipple)??
Thanks for your efforts on this increasingly-interesting topic.
Rod.