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76  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tinted Glass Scratches on: February 25, 2011, 04:16:43 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'll take you guys' advice and leave the windows alone. No sense in risking ruining anything.

Just another reason to ride with the windows down  Grin

Nick
77  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tinted Glass Scratches on: February 24, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
To be more specific, they are factory tinted windows.

I was thinking of buying compund and polishing wheel like Marty's done. Has anyone done this to tinted glass and what was the outcome? You can PM me if you'd like.

Thanks,

Nick
78  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Tinted Glass Scratches on: February 23, 2011, 11:02:28 AM
We've just installed some older tinted windows and they're pretty scratched up. Would it be okay to buff the inside and outside of the glass? Where exactly is the tint, is it in the interior portion of the glass or possibly sandwiched in the glass? Do I have to worry about effecting the tint?

Thanks,

Nick
79  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / RPO MA6 on: January 28, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
Are there any known/documented 69's that had the HD Dual Disc Clutch? I've read Wayne Guinn's article on the RPO many times and am intrigued by it.

Thanks,

Nick
80  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Red Z/28 RS at the Forge. on: January 28, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
I wish I had a car like that, I think its beautiful. Not only is it a Camaro, its a 69 RS Z/28, an unbelievable find. Thanks for sharing it!
81  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Red Z/28 RS at the Forge. on: January 27, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
Can anyone fill me on the rear shocks? Are they original?
82  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Best Selling Paint Color on a 1969 Z/28 on: January 21, 2011, 11:25:30 AM
I couldn't agree more  Grin
83  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Economic Experts? on: January 18, 2011, 04:16:21 PM
In brainstorming with Marty, we've devised a method in determining the value of the first gen's, in today's prices. We started with looking at the change each year in the MSPR of a base V6 Camaro, from 1967 to 2010. Then we averaged the price changes and arrived at a 5.51% average annual price change over the last 43 years. Compared to the CPI in the same time frame of 4.41%.

For those interested, we also came up with a factor. The factor will help determine (roughly) what the original MSRP would be in today's market. Basically the Camaro Inflation measure. Until I come up with a slick plug-n-play type application, this will have to do:

1967: 10.06312
1968:  9.67371
1969:  9.46198

For example, if you have a 1969 Camaro with an MSRP of $4,490, multiply it by the factor of  9.46198 and you'll get today's estimated MSRP ($42,483).

Keep in mind that these are estimates, but I feel they are a more accurate measurement than the CPI as it pertains to Camaros. I know the MSRP can be subjective from the fact its rarely an actual price paid for a car, but it is probably the most complete record of the price of a Camaro (since MSRP's are generally the same on a base V6 model in Minneapolis and one in Reno).

Anyway, let me know what you think.

Nick
84  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Economic Experts? on: January 17, 2011, 07:28:53 PM
Marty, I'm sure someone has done some sort of work tracking the historic purchasing power of a dollar on a certain item (maybe the price of the deck of cards over the past 30 years). But that price change data is only good on that item (ie, a deck of cards). There might be some correlation between that item and another item, but you couldn't apply that data to a Camaro for instance, since the Camaro would probably follow a different price pattern.

But what you could do is (if one had the data), compare the MSRP of a base Camaro from 1969 all the way to 2010, then average the % change each year. That way you are incorporating the technology advances specific to a base Camaro as they become 'standard technology'.

What do you think?
85  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Economic Experts? on: January 17, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
Marty, the CPI (like Gary pointed out) is the broadest measure used to track purchasing power. It might not capture every variance in prices, but its the 'generally accepted' methodology for tracking purchasing power.

I agree that it might sound odd that the same amount of money in 69 will only get you a Chevy Cruise today, but that just might be telling us a Camaro today is grossly overpriced (or a 69 Camaro in the day was grossly underpriced).

As far as technology advances are concerned, they are essentially 'baked into' the CPI figure.

If you're looking for dollar purchasing power, CPI is what to use.

FWIW, I was an Econ and Finance major, so I love this stuff.
86  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Future First Gen Values on: January 14, 2011, 09:13:20 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to drive one. But isn't the new Z getting away from the essence of the original Z? Thought they were going back to the first gen well. Insane HP figures wasn't what it was about.

Seems like we are going off topic here (which necessarily a bad thing). I'd really like to get both JohnZ and William takes on future values. I could listen to those two all day.
87  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Future First Gen Values on: December 13, 2010, 12:15:55 PM
I've been thinking a lot about this topic lately. I'm 29 and am just getting involved with Muscle Cars. None of my friends (either from High School, College, or work) have any interest in collector cars. To me, that's worrisome. I don't think this hobby would ever completely die, but I do feel it will lose a lot of interest as a particular generation gets older.

Maybe the 'feeding frenzy' will end (like Marty pointed out), but that might not be a bad thing. Hopefully a lot of the fraud you see will subside and  prices will come down. The pure enthusiasts will always be there, through good and bad.

Luckily for me (and my son), my dad has a 69z Smiley
88  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 69z on the Home Page on: November 05, 2010, 01:02:33 PM
Wow, does someone on this site actually own that early build RS/Z28?? That is one beautiful car. Whats the story behind it?
89  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Old pictures of the 1969 Z/28 I owned in the late '70's on: October 29, 2010, 07:54:50 AM
This is the only pic my dad has of our car. It was taken in June 1969. He took delivery of it in Feb. We're almost done with its restoration.
90  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z28 Used Original Distributor worth? on: October 19, 2010, 06:45:46 PM
I'd say in the $650-$800 range, depending on the day.
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