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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clones, tributes, recreations.. on: December 23, 2013, 10:35:08 PM
As far as clones/tributes/recreations go, we shouldn't discourage that at all. I'm no better for having a real Z than the guy who has a clone. In essence, the guy with the clone is just trying to enjoy the hobby he otherwise might now be able to. Where a line should be draw (and has been for the most part, in thanks to CRG and TC), is to point out the 'clone' cars intentionally passed as real.

I love all 3 of my first gens, but my 'clone' car is definitely the most fun.  

Clone car - A huge burnout up the street and I get a 10-beer salute from the neighbors. Definitely a fun car.  I have registered this car with the CRG as a 'clone'.



Numbers matching Z - I'm paranoid about even taking it to a local car show.
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking to get lots of photos for the Home Page for 2014 on: December 13, 2013, 11:28:50 PM
We;ll call that one 'in process'..  Smiley    and I bet you made all your panels on that english wheel I see in the background?  Smiley

HA!  In process x 10.  All of the "overseas" panels were horrible and needed major work to make them acceptable.
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking to get lots of photos for the Home Page for 2014 on: December 13, 2013, 10:47:09 PM
Hey Steve,

One of my Camaros was once in real bad shape.  About 2 years ago......but I would laugh my butt off if this ever made the front page of the CRG:

19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Age Groups of Our Hobby on: December 12, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
As my son is getting older, he's starting to get more interested in cars.  It's not easy though since he like to spend his free time with TV and video games.  I drag him to car shows, out crusing around the neighborhood, and have him help out.

Last week he asked me who gets my Camaros when I die.  lol.  I guess he might be a little more interested than I initially thought.

20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 11, 2013, 04:58:45 PM
The 1968 Z/28 Engine Compartment picture came from the September/October 1996 Camaro Enthusiast.

Contents Page
for page 36
"ENGINE COMPARTMENT DETAILING '67 - '69
Many Camaro engine compartments are the same after '69 as far as what is
painted what.  Most '70 - '74 were identical with few exceptions.  However this
article is dedicated to the 1st Generation Owners.  The photo is a 1968 Z28
engine compartment from Chevrolet.  We reproduced the photo full size so you
may see the details, and then put the arrows with numbers on the same picture."

The article is pages 36-39.  The previous picture is page 36.  Here's pages 37 - 39.






21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 11, 2013, 04:14:55 PM
I wasn't sure if mine were correct without the screws on the passenger side. I knew they were original, but I thought maybe the hex screws broke off at first glance,
thanks for that bit of info Chick !

not a great pic, but here is mine:

Thanks for the pic Austin!  There are some good threads on the CRG with pictures that also show this.
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 11, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
David, did you have any points deducted for the spark plug shields shown in your picture? Those (the screw on type) should be I thought on the left side and the brackets that the shields screw into were part of the engine so they should be painted orange. That is what I thought the AIM shows along with original cars and past discussions. Jon Mello had a picture of those brackets he took off his 67Z back in the day. 

Chick, THANKS!!!! 

I didn't get any deductions, but that was in the Bowtie class.  I'm positive they would catch that in the Legends class.  I've started making a list of all the things you've given me to research and fix. 
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 10, 2013, 03:42:43 PM
Now, where have I seen that photo before?   Huh   Wink   Cheesy

It looks like it was posted on Camaros.net back in 2007.  169Indy wrote: "I have a GM photo, copy (SCANNED) of the 68 Z28 engine bay photo that was printed in the Camaro Enthusiast a few years ago and rarely see people reference it with regards to details. Appears to be a Norwood car as evidence by the PTB stampings."

Ed Bertrand posted the picture for 169Indy.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 10, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
Thanks again Jerry!  I found a link to a larger version of that picture on this site:


25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 10, 2013, 01:07:08 PM
That is a GREAT pic Jerry!!!

69 AIM UPC-6, sheet C6 + JohnZ's car + 68 Magazine pic equals the heat riser goes the other way.



What magazine was the picture in?  Also, what is the month and year of the magazine?
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 10, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
Thanks Gary!!!

Compared to UPC-6, sheet C6, I took it from being correct to being not correct.  Crud.  The heat riser is going to have more miles on it than the car.  LOL.



The deduction was 1 point.  Under "Exhaust Manifolds"........"Heat riser in wrong position".  I didn't see this judging info until after judging was done.  There was a lot of judging going on at the same time.



27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 10, 2013, 11:11:49 AM
It looks like it is parallel to the frame in your more recent pics which is different then the AIM
Austin, You are referring to the 69 AIM, UPC N10, Sheet A2 shown below?

If so, it's not real clear to me how the heat riser goes on.  Do you have any other pages that show it better?


I took a close-up picture this morning of my car's heat riser.


A friend of mine has a 68 Camaro with a 327 that his Dad bought new in 1968.  He told me at least twice, before the Camaro Nationals, that I had it on backwards but I didn't take his advice.    When I added his advice plus the deduction, I decided to change it around.  Unless I have hard documentation to prove otherwise, I'm leaving it this way.

28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 09, 2013, 09:09:10 PM
with the new pics you posted, it is easier for me to see the spark plug boot shields look correct . BUT I see your heat riser valve positioned differently now as well. Is this the corrected pic?
The 3 engine pics I posted recently (front pic and the 2 side pics) are all taken after the correction to the heat riser valve.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 09, 2013, 09:07:45 PM
Hey David 2 questions. Is your Alternator fan zink plated and where did you get you rad hoses?

Thanks

Hi Mike, I've been wracking my brain over the last few hours trying to remember some of the stuff I've done.  My wife and I bought a foreclosure house back in April and mentally I've been all over the place since then.  

Anyway....the original alternator fan was very rusty when I bought the car.  If I'm remembering right, I went with Zinc plating.  For the radiator hoses, I got them from pacecarjeff.



30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: December 09, 2013, 04:03:42 PM
You may want to check your orientation on your exhaust heat riser valve, we are discussing this on another thread on CRG. I think one person said it looks like this in the AIM others had factory unrestored ones parallel with the frame rail, or maybe they were installed both ways?
Also I can't tell for sure but your spark plug boot shields should have a semi curve notch in them, I can't seem to see it on yours, but maybe they have them and your manifolds are to clean for me to tell from the pic.

I had the heat risers on the other way and I got a 1-point deduction for it.  Maybe some were installed the other way, I'm really not sure.

I'll check the spark plug boot shields.

Thanks!
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