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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 06, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
I bought them from AMD already. I am holding one in the picture above. Maybe someone can tell me what finish it is....and how correct it looks?

Thanks.....Dave
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 06, 2014, 05:30:17 PM
Thanks to everyone for the info so far.

I am clear now that the raised center of the plug faces up.

I am a little fuzzy now about what the plugs should look like when looking at the bottom of a correctly finished car.

Did the bottom of the car have it's final coat of paint (not including body color over spray) when the plugs were installed?

If so, you would see the plug (in bare metal?) and the seam sealer.......both with no paint on them? Is this correct?
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 05, 2014, 09:56:21 PM
I have a new trunk floor and main floor and am wondering which way the six floor drain hole covers face? Does the the raised area in the middle of the drain hole cover face up....or down...or depend on which hole you are covering? Or does it depend on which direction the lip around the edge of the drain hole faces....up or down? My original floors and plugs are long gone and I don't remember.

All six drain holes in my original main and trunk floor were stamped with the lip around the edge facing down. On my repro floor, the drain holes in front of the front seats are stamped like the original, with the lip facing down.  The two drain holes in front of the rear seat are stamped with the lip facing up, however.

Each of the two drain holes in my new trunk floor have two screw holes at opposite corners. The other four holes do not.

So based on the info given, which way should I place my drain hole covers?....................And also, is it correct that each trunk floor cover is screwed in as well and seam sealed.....or should those holes not be there.

 Thanks Dave





34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 04, 2014, 11:10:18 PM
I'll send some along.
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 04, 2014, 08:27:11 PM
Thank you. That's good to know. The can put anything they want on it as long it is not visible.

By the way, is there a listing of these DOT codes so that I can decipher my glass when I get it?

                Thanks.....Dave
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 04, 2014, 02:25:05 PM
Does this mean I should expect my Pilkington glass will come with current DOT markings that are visible in addition to the old LOF markings I am having etched.........in spite of what the guy from Pilkington told me?

I am going to call Pilkington on Monday and go over this again.

              Dave
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 03, 2014, 09:36:35 PM
Can you explain what the DOT numbers mean? I am not that familiar with them.
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 03, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
After getting some positive feedback on Pilkington from the Team Camaro forum, I ordered the glass directly from Pilkington Classics. I spoke to them on the phone and asked many questions before placing the order. I was told their windshields were made in Mexico and that all the other glass was made in the USA.

I also asked that if you ordered the correct date coding and "LOF" logo (which I did),  would there be any other markings on the glass. I was told that would be no other markings. We'll see what is on them when I receive them and I'll report back .

              Dave
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: December 31, 2013, 10:23:36 AM
I was on the phone with Pilkington Classics Glass asking questions and they tell me their glass is thinner than original but could not tell me exactly by how much.

Just wondering if anyone who has used Pilkington Classics could see a noticeable difference in the thickness.

Also wondering if anyone could comment on their quality vs. other stuff available out there.......and it it worth the extra cost.

         Thanks.....Dave
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Quarter panel window U-jamb seal fittment ??? on: December 15, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
I wonder if someone could comment on...or post a picture of how their quarter window u-jamb window seal is supposed to look installed. I have attached some pictures of mine that I am test fitting with a new quarter panel. It fits down into the cut out on the quarter panel OK but the inner top of the seal does not seem to conform in any way to the quarter panel. I have red arrows in my pictures showing the area I am talking about. It is just kind of hanging out there. I would have thought maybe that it would snap in place but there seems to be no correlation bettween the shape of the seal and the shape of the quarter panel where they mate up to each other.

Thanls.........Dave
















41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct top of door window opening dimension ??? on: December 14, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
Jim, thanks for the dimesions. It's a relief to know that my dimensions now pretty much match an original door.....and that I didn't change the wrong door. We pushed the outside face of the door to reduce the curvature and close the gap. We didn't touch where the inside of the window touches the door.

                    Dave
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Correct top of door window opening dimension ??? on: December 14, 2013, 03:24:28 PM
I am hoping someone can verify the dimensions I have marked with red arrows in the attached pictures. I have new AMD door skins on my original shells. My car is getting close to going in the paint booth. We are still doing some final fitting. When the doors where fitted back on the car, I noticed the window opening gap at the top of one door was wider than the other with more curvature on the outside top of the door

I measured the window opening gap in the center of the doors on both sides.........Sure enough, one side was 5/16 inch wider than the other. One side measured 1 3/4 inch and the other side was 2 1/16 inch. A 5/16 inch difference.

The 2 1/16 side looked awfully wide so we pushed a few times on the outside of the door and and finally got the center of the window opening to about the same distance as the other side. In hindsight, maybe we should have worked the outside of the doors to match the curvature of the windows. I don't know.

So anyhow, I am wondering if the dimensions I am showing are what they should be, and if not, what the correct dimensions should be.

                    Thanks......Dave



43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 D90 stripe questions on: November 30, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
I have never seen one of these stencils. How are they made and how are they applied? Does the stencil merely give you a guide as to where to place your own masking tape. Or is the masking tape you use part of the stencil itself?

Also, if your engine size emblem and the stripe are both placed according to the AIM, will the emblem fit inside of.....and be centered in the fat. middle part of the stripe?.....I see emblems out there in all kinds of different places in relation to the stripe.

Dave

44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / '68 D90 stripe questions on: November 24, 2013, 03:33:30 PM
I am going to putting the '68 D90 Super Sport stripe on my car. I am going to have mine fully painted and not use any decals.

 I am not sure where to order the stripe stencil from.......I know you can buy them from any catalog but am sure the quality probably varies depending on who makes it.

 I did some research here on the site and the name Stencils and Stripes, Unlimited came up a lot.

 I would want mine to look like the one in this picture. I have seen some stripes out there where they look too fat as they sweep across the rear of the fender and door.

 If the "Camaro" script emblem on the fender is positioned properly and the stripe is the correct width under the "Camaro" emblem, will the emblem overlap the stripe?..... I know the bottom of the "C" probably will, but how about the "amaro" ?

 Thanks.....Dave

45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: KICK PANEL... DOOR PANEL....REAR SIDE PANEL FITMENT on: November 19, 2013, 09:13:49 AM
I have no idea where.... or what the problem is.  I don't think the quarter panel position is an issue. At the pinchweld where the forward edge of the quarter panel connects to the inner structure, the quarter panel doesn't extend extend past the inner structure which is original. That being the case, I don't think the the side panel can be pushed forward of it's original position.

I was worried with the aligning of the quarter panel, door and fender that the door got moved too far forward. But the gap between the top of the door panel and the windlace on the rear side panel is only 1/8 inch.

Is the forward edge of the door panel and the edge of the kick panel supposed to have some overlap or should there be a gap between them?

Can anyone comment from my photos if the relationship between the door panel and the kick panel .....and between the door panel and and rear side panel looks correct is is something obviously wrong?
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