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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fender, fender extension to front valance alignment ??? on: January 07, 2014, 05:35:49 PM
Here is a picture to show how good the fender extension and fender line up with each other looking from the side.

I guess the valance could be distorted but what are the odds it is distorted equally on both ends as I have the same problem on both sides of the car.

If I pull the top of the valance forward so that the valance lines up flush with the entire length of the fender extension, then the top of the valance is too far forward of the fender.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks....Dave


17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 07, 2014, 08:45:59 AM
Here is another picture of mine from the other side. Not hot dipped galvanized looking......but not plain steel either.

18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Fender, fender extension to front valance alignment ??? on: January 07, 2014, 08:30:44 AM

Just looking for some suggestions on how to correct a problem where my front valance meets the fender and fender extension.

The fender to fender extension alignment is good. When the bottom of the valance is lined up good with the bottom of the fender extension......and the top of the valance is lined up good with the fender......the middle of the valance is recessed about 3/16 inch back from the fender, fender extension joint.

I have the exact same situation on both sides of the car. The fenders are AMD. Both of the fender extensions and the valence are GM assembly line take-offs.

Thanks.....Dave



19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 06, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
I bought them from AMD already. I am holding one in the picture above. Maybe someone can tell me what finish it is....and how correct it looks?

Thanks.....Dave
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 06, 2014, 05:30:17 PM
Thanks to everyone for the info so far.

I am clear now that the raised center of the plug faces up.

I am a little fuzzy now about what the plugs should look like when looking at the bottom of a correctly finished car.

Did the bottom of the car have it's final coat of paint (not including body color over spray) when the plugs were installed?

If so, you would see the plug (in bare metal?) and the seam sealer.......both with no paint on them? Is this correct?
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 05, 2014, 09:56:21 PM
I have a new trunk floor and main floor and am wondering which way the six floor drain hole covers face? Does the the raised area in the middle of the drain hole cover face up....or down...or depend on which hole you are covering? Or does it depend on which direction the lip around the edge of the drain hole faces....up or down? My original floors and plugs are long gone and I don't remember.

All six drain holes in my original main and trunk floor were stamped with the lip around the edge facing down. On my repro floor, the drain holes in front of the front seats are stamped like the original, with the lip facing down.  The two drain holes in front of the rear seat are stamped with the lip facing up, however.

Each of the two drain holes in my new trunk floor have two screw holes at opposite corners. The other four holes do not.

So based on the info given, which way should I place my drain hole covers?....................And also, is it correct that each trunk floor cover is screwed in as well and seam sealed.....or should those holes not be there.

 Thanks Dave





22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 04, 2014, 11:10:18 PM
I'll send some along.
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 04, 2014, 08:27:11 PM
Thank you. That's good to know. The can put anything they want on it as long it is not visible.

By the way, is there a listing of these DOT codes so that I can decipher my glass when I get it?

                Thanks.....Dave
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 04, 2014, 02:25:05 PM
Does this mean I should expect my Pilkington glass will come with current DOT markings that are visible in addition to the old LOF markings I am having etched.........in spite of what the guy from Pilkington told me?

I am going to call Pilkington on Monday and go over this again.

              Dave
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 03, 2014, 09:36:35 PM
Can you explain what the DOT numbers mean? I am not that familiar with them.
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: January 03, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
After getting some positive feedback on Pilkington from the Team Camaro forum, I ordered the glass directly from Pilkington Classics. I spoke to them on the phone and asked many questions before placing the order. I was told their windshields were made in Mexico and that all the other glass was made in the USA.

I also asked that if you ordered the correct date coding and "LOF" logo (which I did),  would there be any other markings on the glass. I was told that would be no other markings. We'll see what is on them when I receive them and I'll report back .

              Dave
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Pilkington Classics glass thickness and quality ??? on: December 31, 2013, 10:23:36 AM
I was on the phone with Pilkington Classics Glass asking questions and they tell me their glass is thinner than original but could not tell me exactly by how much.

Just wondering if anyone who has used Pilkington Classics could see a noticeable difference in the thickness.

Also wondering if anyone could comment on their quality vs. other stuff available out there.......and it it worth the extra cost.

         Thanks.....Dave
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Quarter panel window U-jamb seal fittment ??? on: December 15, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
I wonder if someone could comment on...or post a picture of how their quarter window u-jamb window seal is supposed to look installed. I have attached some pictures of mine that I am test fitting with a new quarter panel. It fits down into the cut out on the quarter panel OK but the inner top of the seal does not seem to conform in any way to the quarter panel. I have red arrows in my pictures showing the area I am talking about. It is just kind of hanging out there. I would have thought maybe that it would snap in place but there seems to be no correlation bettween the shape of the seal and the shape of the quarter panel where they mate up to each other.

Thanls.........Dave
















29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct top of door window opening dimension ??? on: December 14, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
Jim, thanks for the dimesions. It's a relief to know that my dimensions now pretty much match an original door.....and that I didn't change the wrong door. We pushed the outside face of the door to reduce the curvature and close the gap. We didn't touch where the inside of the window touches the door.

                    Dave
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Correct top of door window opening dimension ??? on: December 14, 2013, 03:24:28 PM
I am hoping someone can verify the dimensions I have marked with red arrows in the attached pictures. I have new AMD door skins on my original shells. My car is getting close to going in the paint booth. We are still doing some final fitting. When the doors where fitted back on the car, I noticed the window opening gap at the top of one door was wider than the other with more curvature on the outside top of the door

I measured the window opening gap in the center of the doors on both sides.........Sure enough, one side was 5/16 inch wider than the other. One side measured 1 3/4 inch and the other side was 2 1/16 inch. A 5/16 inch difference.

The 2 1/16 side looked awfully wide so we pushed a few times on the outside of the door and and finally got the center of the window opening to about the same distance as the other side. In hindsight, maybe we should have worked the outside of the doors to match the curvature of the windows. I don't know.

So anyhow, I am wondering if the dimensions I am showing are what they should be, and if not, what the correct dimensions should be.

                    Thanks......Dave



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