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136  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Choice for compressor, blast cabinet, paint gun ??? on: July 08, 2012, 02:02:44 PM
I am needing some recommendations...... After trying different methods of de-greasing, de-rusting, and paint removal on many small parts of my '68 (all being time consuming and not all of them being very successful), I am thinking a blast cabinet for cleaning and prepping parts would be the way to go.

So I would be needing a blast cabinet and a compressor. And since I would now have a compressor, I would also want to tackle some small paint work. Primering and finish painting these small parts.

So I would need recommendations on:  A blast cabinet. Harbor Freight has a couple on sale now.

                                                         A compressor capable of powering a blast cabinet and also running a paint gun that I could
                                                         primer and finish paint bunches of small parts. ( It would need to run on 110 volts house current)

                                                         A paint gun for the above.

I don't need anything elaborate. Pretty much the minimums for accomplishing the above. I have been reading up on compressors trying to educate myself a little. The two blast cabinets at Harbor Freight require 9.5 cfm @ 90 psi or 10 cfm@ 100psi.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.................Thanks, Dave
137  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Stance using the Hotchkiss TVS ( Pictures available??? ) on: July 07, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
Yes, the shocks are removed.
138  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Stance using the Hotchkiss TVS ( Pictures available??? ) on: July 05, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
I am pretty certain that I'll be going with the Hotchkiss TVS system for my '68. Before I do though, I would like to get an idea of what the stance will look with it installed.

Has any one installed this system ( 1 1/2 inch or 3 inch drop leaf springs) on a '67 or '68 and has a profile picture of your car showing the stance and the distance between the top of the tires and the top of the wheel opening. If you didn't have a picture, could tell me the distance between the top of your tires and the top of your wheel openings front and rear.

On my car, for some reason right now, there is a 5 inch space between the top of my rear tires and the top of the wheel opening. The car is just rolling shell. No interior, no front end sheet metal, no engine or transmission. Just the empty shell sitting on a bare subframe. Looking back at pictures of the car when it was whole and running, it did not sit up nearly that high in the back. For a car in this state is it normal for the back end to sit up that high when most of the weight removed from the car was from the front end?

I bring this up wondering if I would need the 1 1/2 inch or 3 inch drop leafs in the back.

139  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 04, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
I've driven my daily driver car and many others with drums and rotors turned way past the specs and never had a problem.  If you're driving so close to the edge that a few thousandths of an inch mean life or death, I'd take a bus.
I have no idea how significant those few thousandths are. Some feel it could be dangerous and other don't...... I would think, however, that the manufactureres build some extra margin into those minimum specs just to cover themselves............How do you get yours turned past the minimum? Do you take them to a shop and they do it regardless of the fact that they are going past the minimum?
140  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 03, 2012, 06:21:41 PM
I agree about going below the minimum. This car will be a fair weather driver and I hope to drive it a lot. I am going to get a one piece replacement for now. I will keep my originals tucked away.
141  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 03, 2012, 11:55:24 AM
Dave, the 5100 works fine. Just be forewarned that you may have to get a couple of them before you find two that don't interfere with the caliper. You can also try the 5514 since that's the number AutoZone shows. O'Reily shows the BrakeBest 5100RGS and AutoZone shows the Duralast 5514, so maybe they've changed the hub a little on the 5514 to make it fit. I don't know.

However, do you still have enough meat to turn your originals? The "official" specs are .965" minimum but lots of folks have run them with up to (or as little as) .935" to .940".


I measured my rotors and they measure out at .950 and .955 inches. Would a shop turn them if they are already past the minimum?

I removed the bolts connecting my original hub to the rotor before I realized I would go with a one piece replacement. I tried to separate the rotor and hub with no success. I can't say I tried real hard for fear of damaging them. If they ever did make just the rotor part and I wanted to use my original hub, what's the best way to separate the hub from the rotor? I am assume they are rusted together.
142  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 02, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
When I read that about the factory balancing, the person that wrote it said that they saw that in the "68 Chassis Service Manual. I don't have one of those. If someone does, it would be interesting to see what it says.
143  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 01, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
First off, thanks to all that responded and all the comments and ideas.

I guess right now, no one is making just the rotor part of the original two piece hub / rotor assembly for a '68 with a four piston caliper. I believe I will get a one piece replacement for now but hang on to my originals in case just the rotor part becomes available in the future. The reproduction two piece assemblies are a little more than I can put into the brakes right now.

I have read where the orignial two part assemblies were balanced at the factory by drilling holes in them. I am attaching a picture of one of my originals. One of them has five holes drilled in it and the other has none.........Even if just the rotor part becomes available in the future, I don't know where you would go to have this kind of balancing done.

All that being said, can any one recomend a good one piece replacement. I see them all over the place from very cheap to very expensive.

144  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Paint choice for subframe and a-arms ? on: June 28, 2012, 08:05:26 AM
I am looking for a 2K paint for my subframe and a-arms. I definitely want a 2K for durability.

 I just recenty saw a frame painted in SEM Hot Rod Black and it was a little too flat for me and almost looked like a very, very dark gray rather than deep black. I don't want gloss but something that looks jet black with a little more sheen than what I saw on the Hot Rod Black. The best way I can describe the gloss level I want is something with a nice "glow" to it if that makes any sense.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.........Thanks, Dave
145  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: June 27, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
I need to replace the original two piece rotors on my '68 that uses the four piston calipers.

Does anyone know if anyone is making just the rotor section of the two piece originaI?.......................... I would like to find just the rotor part and keep the original hub. In another post I had put up, "tmodel66" had responeded the he found these on (Bendix part # PRT1213) but is using them on a "69. Amazon asks for your car info to make sure a part fits your car. It will say "yes" for a '69 but "no" for a '68. Maybe they work with the '69 single piston caliper but not the '68 four piston calipers.

I read a lot of old posts on this but most are pretty dated now. I know you can get the entire two piece (rotor and hub) in reproduction now. Just wondering about the rotor part by itself.

146  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Where to buy new steering and suspension components ??? on: June 19, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
I am just gettin back to this thread I started about three weeks ago.......thanks for all the input so far. I had asked about the best place to buy the following parts for my '68.
Ball joints
Spindles (maybe)
Tie rod ends
Tie rod adjusting sleeves
Pitman arm
Idler arm
Wheel bearings

I posted this question on TC as well. There were alot of different ideas given. From all the responses (and I know not everyone agreed) it seems the majority of people felt that...........

Moog, if made in the USA, is the best quality but do not look like the originals.

Rock Auto is the best place to buy Moog made in the USA parts.

Moog parts that are not made in the USA will be lesser quality than those that are.

Anything coming out of China will be poor quality.

When I see QS900 / ISO cert stuff in the description, that means made in China.

Anything that is correct in orignal appearance is made in China
Looking through the parts catalogs, it seems that anything that is stated to be correct in original appearance is made in China.
I would like to have original looking parts but not at the expense of durability or safety.

So my question now are.........Has anyone bought original looking off shore parts that failed on them? Does "China" automatically equate to poor quality?

Does anyone know of original looking parts that are USA made and good quality?


147  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Hotchkiss TVS, Body Bushings, A-arm bushings ??? on: June 15, 2012, 04:09:10 PM
I am considering installing the Hotchkiss TVS suspension system on my "68. I am looking for better handling but don't want an uncomfortable ride either. I want a compromise between good handling/cornering but be able to cruise in reasonable comfort and not get jarred around.......would the TVS system be a good choice for this?

If the TVS is a good choice, then I need to make choices about other components that affect the handling that are not included with the TVS but would work well with it. Namely, the subframe to body bushings and the upper and lower a-arm bushings.

I have read where solid subframe to body bushings are the way to go.....except maybe at the core support because the vibration might be bad for the radiator (true or false?). I had all solid subrame to body bushing in my car before I started my restoration and no problems with the ride quality or the radiator.

And the a-arm bushings, I know of course about polyurethane, but are there other choices out there besides stock bushings that might be better?

148  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Spindles - re-usable or not ??? on: May 28, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
There doesn't seem to be a groove where the seal rides.

And now to ask another rookie question......The grease seal, being pressed into the rotor and spinning around the stationary spindle......what keeps the seal from just melting away from the friction and the heat?
149  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Where to buy new steering and suspension components ??? on: May 28, 2012, 09:07:35 AM
I am rebuilding the front suspension and steering components on my 68. I'll be replacing the following items.

Control arms
Ball joints
Spindles (maybe)
Tie rod ends
Tie rod adjusting sleeves
Pitman arm
Idler arm
Wheel bearings

Other items necessary to replace such as bushings, I am going to ask about in a seperate post.

My question is where to buy these items from. I have looked at all of them in the major part catalogs (Classic Ind, Ricks, NPD, etc.). Some parts price out pretty much the same between the catalogs. Others can differ in price quite a bit. None of them say anything about who the manufacturer is. I wouldn't have a clue as to what is good quality or what isn't. I want to make sure am getting quality parts that fit right, do the job, and hold up.

Are there any manufacturers who are recomended for these parts?............and where can I find their products?

Also, my rotors are the two piece kind. Is it recomended to stay with the two piece or are the one piece replacements just as good?

150  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Spindles - re-usable or not ??? on: May 28, 2012, 08:11:39 AM
I am trying to determine if my original spindles are still good or should be replaced.  I am rebuilding my front suspension and have everything apart right now. This is a first time suspension rebuild project for me.........I am including a link with some pictures. There is some discoloration where the inner bearing rides on the shaft. The discoloration is not as dark as it looks in the pictures. I went over the discolored area with some 0000 steel wool and WD40 but it made no difference. It seems to be permanent. I have tried to show all 360 degrees of the shaft in the pictures. If you run your fingernail on the shaft where the inner bearind rides, the surface is smooth. If you run your fingernail on the shaft in front of or behind the surface where the inner bearing rides, you can feel very small machining ridges or grooves....... Are there specs posted anywhere that you can check for with a micrometer?

And now to ask what may seem like a silly question. WHere the inner race of the wheel bearings ride on the spindle shaft, is that inner race suppose to stay stationary or spin?

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