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106  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Remove trim tag or not ? on: July 02, 2013, 05:12:43 PM
Thanks for all the replies.......I am going to follow my first instinct and leave the tag alone.

My body was rebuilt a while back at a shop that just does panel replacements and no paint. The firewall was blasted and epoxy primed at that shop. The tag was well protected when they did it. It is at another shop now for final body work and paint.

Thanks again........Dave
107  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / '68 wheel rear wheel opening molding correctness. on: July 01, 2013, 10:41:49 PM

I had asked a question a couple of weeks ago about how to correctly position a '68 rear wheel opening molding on a reproduction fender with no molding screw holes drilled in it for reference. I got the answer I needed but now am wondering about a couple of other things. I was told the front edge of the molding should stop like this for a non Rally Sport.

And the rear edge should go all the way to the bottome of the opening like this.

My first question is this. The picture below is a '67. Look at the bottom of the forward edge of the molding and how far it goes down and how it conforms the the shape of the body. This is different from my '68 GM molding.  So is this a " '67 only " molding and wrong for a '68?

This is a picture of the rear bottom edge of my GM passenger side molding held up near my rear wheel opening. My quarter panel is a reproduction. The shape of the bottom of the molding does not match the shape of quarter panel here. In fact, when you put the molding on and line it up with the bottom of the opening, there is no metal behind the screw hole in the molding.

Is the quarter panel not shaped right here?

108  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / '68 Standard gas cap fitment problems on: July 01, 2013, 07:31:12 PM
I am trying to find just how close a '68 standard gas cap should follow the contour of the tail panel.

I have a a reproduction tail panel. When I put my original filler tube and gas cap on, the fit was terrible. I attributed at least part of the problem to the fact that the flange on my original filler tube was out of whack. The angle of the flange to the tube wasn't consistant all the way around. I am sure the fact that the tail panel is a reproduction has something to do with it too.

I bought a new filler tube and gas cap from CHQ. The fit is better but the cap still sticks out a little at the top and about a 1/8 or 3/16 inch on the bottom. It stuck out a little on the sides but I was able to put a little pressure on the sides of the cap and bend it a little so that the side are fairly flush with the tail panel.

So my questions are:     Were these gas caps completely flush with the tail panel all the way around when they left the factory or did they stick out some?

                                   If they were flush, what can I do to get a better fit?

The attached photos are of the new cap. The second photo is from the top looking down. I could not get it to orient the right way.


109  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Remove trim tag or not ? on: July 01, 2013, 05:51:02 PM
Just looking for a suggestion on which way to go with this. My '68 is at the paint shop now and the firewall is going to painted. My painter is asking me if I want to remove the trim tag to make sure there is no rust behind it, and then re-attach it.....I know anyone who has replaced a cowl has had to do this.

It would be nice to know it there was any rust back there and address it. My concern is re-attaching it with the right rivets and the right sealant inside and making it look like it was never off. Also, the tag is bent forward a little at the top and sticks out from the firewall.... more than a 1/16 inch but less than 1/8 inch. I could never straighten that without it removed.

My firewall wasn't rusty before the restoration started so I don't if there is a real concern for rust behind it or not. The attached photo is before any resoration started. AND I AM WELL AWARE OF THE FEELINGS OUT THERE CONCERNING MESSING WITH THESE TAGS.......My gut tells me to just leave it alone....but I am wondering what others think.

110  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / '68 door weatherstripping suggestions on: June 23, 2013, 12:14:45 PM
I am getting ready to order some of the weather stripping for my doors. I have a '68 with the deluxe interior and the wide stainless steel reveal belt moldings on the tops of the doors.

I am looking for some advise on what manufacturer(s) to use.

Right now, I am going to order:   The interior and exterior side window fuzzies (8 pieces)

                                                The three sided weatherstrip that goes around the sides and bottom of the doors.

                                                The u-shaped door jamb seal that attaches to the forward, top edge of the 1/4 panel.

I have read though many previous threads and it seems that Metro and Steele get the highest marks. And that nothing is perfect  (of course) and that they all some some short comings here or there.

On the fuzzies, I want to get what functions like and looks the most like factory original....and have the correct flat stainless steel bead on the interior pieces.

On the three sided piece around the doors, can anyone comment if the Metro "Supersoft Sponge" rubber is closest in appearance and feel to the original factory pieces?

On the u-shaped door jamb seals, they all sound about the same in their descriptions so I have no idea which to use.


111  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Mold damage on vinyl - fixable ??? on: June 20, 2013, 11:17:13 AM
I will try to do some massaging with my hands. It will be quite a while before it can go back in the car and be sat in.

112  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Mold damage on vinyl - fixable ??? on: June 19, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
First off, thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Here's where I am so far. I bought the 303 Aerospace Protectant. I also picked up some 303 upholstery cleaner.

I cleaned the seat and appplied the protectant and then let it bake in the Florida sun for a couple of days.

It seems like the dimples have come out some......but not all the way. I have had the seat now inside in the air conditioning for a couple of days now to see if drawing any humidity out of it might make a difference but it looks the same.

I will try putting it out in the sun some more.

What I can't figure out is that all of my interior was all together in one spot and in the same conditions.  The all of the front and rear seats, the door panels and the rear side panels. Everything was covered with old sheets. The top of the rear seat back is the only area that got mold. (luckily) Everything else is fine.

113  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Mold damage on vinyl - fixable ??? on: June 12, 2013, 08:03:11 AM
Thanks to everyone for the replies. 
When you say "they came back out when the sun got on it," are you refering to the dimples like my seats have now?
114  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Mold damage on vinyl - fixable ??? on: June 11, 2013, 08:02:29 PM
First off let me say I live in Florida, the humidity capital of the world. All of my 68's interior had been stored in New York for many, many years and my car has been here in Florida being worked on. A couple of years ago, I brought all of the interior to Florida. For a lack of a better place to store it, just put it back inside of the car.

I sent my car to the paint shop a couple of months ago and had to empty it. My space inside my house is very limited so I put the seats in what we call a Florida room. It is an enclosed room attached to the house. It has plenty of windows and ventilation but no air conditioning. And it gets plenty hot in the summer. I had the seats wrapped on old sheets to protect them.

I pulled the sheets off of my back seat tonight just to check it's condtion and I got a big suprise. The top of the rear seat back was covered in mold. Really bad! I cleaned it off with a wet rag and then some upholstery cleaner........but then I got a bigger surprise..............

The mold had left depressions, like pock marks or craters, in the surface of the vinyl. Like sheet metal would look like if it got pelted with steel shot.

For being 45 years old, these seats were almost in pristine condition. When I saw those depressions, I almost wanted to cry.

I haven't checked everything yet but I think the damage is limited to just this seat back only.

SO MY QUESTION IS......has this ever happend to anyone and were you able to fix it. I was thinking of putting it in the sun tomorrow to see if it might smooth it out.....I don't know if that's a good idea or not......or maybe I should apply something to it that would help.

ps.....even if I have to put my bed outside to make space, I am putting all my interior inside in the air conditioning till it goes back in the car.

115  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 rear wheel molding placement on: June 11, 2013, 07:21:24 AM
Thanks so much for the information.

116  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / 68 rear wheel molding placement on: June 09, 2013, 11:18:04 PM
I need help with placing of my 68 rear wheels moldings. My car has new repro quarter panels and outer wheelhouses which were installed a while ago. The joints where the quarter panel and the outer wheelhouses were welded together were bent down to far and have been corrected now. Now I am test fitting my original GM moldings to the wheel wells to make sure they fit together right.

I thought I marked my moldings pretty good when I took them off the original quarters but now I have my doubts as to which side is which. I know it should probably be obvious. I have attached pictures of both ends of one of my rear moldings and marked the ends A and B.

If someone can tell me which end goes towards the front of the car and which end goes towards the back, that will give me my answer.

There is another thing I need to figure out. You can rotate the rear moldings on the wheel well. There is no point on the car that corresponds to a point on the rear molding that tells you it is in exactly the right place. Not like the front. My original quarter panels are long gone for any kind of reference. I need a dimension from either the front or rear end of the molding to a point on the car that tells me exactly where they go. I looked in the AIM and it only gives dimensions for the front moldings so I am guessing the rears were put on my Fisher Body.


117  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 rear spoiler stud lenth needed on: May 26, 2013, 09:17:47 PM
Yes it does. That's exactly what I needed to know......and what I thought it should be.

118  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 rear spoiler stud lenth needed on: May 25, 2013, 03:09:57 PM
Thank you.....and yes, that is British Racing Green.

119  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / 68 rear spoiler stud lenth needed on: May 25, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
Can some one tell me if the four long rear spoiler studs on a 68 ( the ones that are on the forward edge of the spoiler ) all stick out the same length of if the two in the middle should stick out longer.

I only have one of the original four longs studs left in it's original position. That is one on the end and it sticks out one inch. Of the two in the middle, one is gone and the other is the original factory stud but I had to reset it more than 20 years ago. That one is sticking out an inch and a half. It's been too long for me to remember why I did it that way. I don't remember if I was trying to match the original length or that just how I happened to set it.

Anyhow, I am going to be replacing the missing studs and want to set them at the correct lenth.


120  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Repro dash top installation dimension needed. on: May 25, 2013, 01:47:21 PM
I had a reproduction dash top put on my '68 and am now having trouble getting my original GM dash pad to sit down in place. The dash pad is sitting about 3/8 of an inch too high where it meets the dash face.

I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the reproduction dash top, the way it was installed, or both.

I am attaching a sketch of the cross section where the dash top meets the dash face. I am hoping someone who has their correct fitting dash pad off can check the measurement I am showing on their car and verify if my measurement is correct or wrong.



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