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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Inner fender splash apron set on: November 20, 2014, 08:55:28 PM
Just wondering if someone could give a recommendation on who is making a good quality set of inner fender splash aprons............I can't find any recent posts on this. Just some old ones where people complained of the usual cheap repro quality.

Thanks.....Dave

2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Radio antenna ground plate on: November 20, 2014, 03:16:30 PM
Does the radio antenna ground plate that goes just under the antenna opening in the fender serve any actual electrical purpose? As in "grounding" the antenna to the body?

I would think, if it did, there would have to be some bare metal on the bottom of antenna opening in the fender for the ground plate to make contact with. Leaving bare metal there doesn't seem like a good idea.

The antenna assembly instructions in the AIM don't mention anything about it.

I am wondering what the right thing to do is.

Thanks.....Dave


3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 12, 2014, 08:29:49 AM
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I did manage to get the lower control arms installed. First, I put the threaded rod back in them and cranked on them as hard as could to try to narrow them some more. They were better after that but it still wasn't quite enough to get them in. Even using a hammer. Then I remembered that my Hotchkiss front sway bar came with a vial of white grease to lubricate it's rubber mounting bushings. I put a very, very light smear on the outside of each bushing and they went in.

I tried to heed John's advice and avoid using grease but they just weren't going to go in other wise. At least with the tools I had to work with.

I will definitely wait until everything is installed and the car is at it's ride height before doing any tightening.

Thanks.....Dave







Thanks.......Dave
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 05, 2014, 10:15:59 PM
Thanks for tip on the chassis service manual but I don't have one of those and I have to get these control arms in tomorrow.

Dave
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 05, 2014, 10:11:19 PM
The picture is deceiving. Both bushings are installed from the outside pointing in.
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 05, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
Hi John, I see the serrated edges on the inner sleeve of the upper control arm bushings. The edges of my lower control arm inner sleeves appear to be smooth. On both the replacement Moog bushings I have and the originals. That being the case, I just wanted to verify that the inner sleeve of the lower control arm bushing is supposed to be clamped between the sides of the subframe crossmember so it can't rotate.

Then only reason I was considering the grease is because so many people seem to have problems getting the lower control arm bushings in. Everyone seems to be greasing them and then beating them with a big hammer.

How did they get them in at the factory?

Thanks.....Dave
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 04, 2014, 10:27:38 PM
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I tried the "threaded rod" suggestion I got from Team Camaro this and it worked. By cranking on the nuts, I was able to squeeze the control arm down the 1/8 inch I needed.

Now I need a suggestion on the type grease to use on the ends of the bushings as I drive the control arm into the subframe. These are stock type rubber bushings

I would think standard grease would degrade the rubber. I know that silicone grease would be good but when I look for "silicone grease" on the auto part store websites, all I see is liquid sprays. I have also read where something like Mobile 1 synthetic grease would be good.

I just don't want to put anything on there that will hurt the rubber.

Thanks.....Dave

8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 02, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Looking for a suggestion on how to solve this problem. I cannot get this lower control arm to fit into the subframe. The overall dimension between the outer edges of the bushing's (measured at the inner metal collars) is an eighth of an inch too wide. The bushings are pressed in as far as they will go. I have tested two other old control arms (that are too ratty to use) and they fit fine into the subframe so I'll rule out the problem being with the subframe. I really need to use the control arm in the photo as it has already been blasted, primed, painted, and has the bushings and ball joint already installed.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.....Dave

9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / '68 headliner brand recommendation on: October 27, 2014, 10:09:18 AM
Is anyone making a quality headliner for '68's that is close in appearance to the original. I had Legenday Interiors send me a sample and it does not look like my original at all. Look at the difference between their sample and a piece of my GM original.

I am hoping there is something out there closer to the original.

Thanks.....Dave

10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tail light gasket recomendations. on: October 25, 2014, 10:11:37 AM
As a first time restorer, I have certainly learned my lessons over the last three years or so about repro parts. If the UPS truck pulls up on Friday, now I don't open the box till Monday so that my weekend isn't ruined by what I find inside.

I have tried from the start, however,  to save every original piece of my car that I could unless it was just too far gone.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tail light gasket recomendations. on: October 25, 2014, 09:13:52 AM
Yep, not knowing at the time that this would be a problem in the future, pieces of my original gaskets are still stuck to my original bezels.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tail light gasket recomendations. on: October 24, 2014, 08:51:21 PM
Yes, I did get your reply on TC. Thank you........I hadn't got any brand recommendations yet on this forum and thought maybe someone would throw in another choice to add to my list of possibles.

I will also keep my eye out for some originals in good shape.

Thanks.....Dave
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tail light gasket recomendations. on: October 23, 2014, 08:19:07 PM
My originals tail light bezel to body gaskets are shot with no chance of reusing them so I'll have to go with repros.

I am still hoping someone will chime in with recommendations for a good quality molded rubber tail light bezel to body gasket....and a bezel to galvanized backing plate gasket that is thick enough to compress and seal the way it is supposed to.

Thanks....Dave
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Tail light gasket recomendations. on: October 17, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
I am looking for suggestions for tail light gaskets on my '68. Both the gasket between the tail light bezel and the tail panel.......and also the gasket between the tail light bezel and the galvanized backing cover.

I have some new Soffseal gaskets for the galvanized backing covers that I have had sitting in the package for a few years. When I test fit them, it seems they are not thick enough. When I lay them in place in the galvanized backing cover and then lay the cover on the bezel with the lenses in place, you have metal to metal contact before the gasket touches anything. You would think you would feel the gasket compressing before metal touched metal but you don't.......Or do you have to put sealer on the gasket. Looks like they did at the factory.....See the pictures of my original.....It looks like brown glue to hold the gasket to the cover and then a black sealer on the other side of the gasket where it contacts the bezel and the lenses......

I also have molded rubber gaskets for the bezel to the tail panel  that I got from CHQ over a year ago. I don't know who manufactured them but they look absolutely awful. Ragged edges everywhere and the outside surface very porous. I am used to getting pretty good stuff from CHQ but am very disappointed in these. If I had made them, I would be embarrassed  to let them out the door. See the pictures.....I don't want to use them. I do want molded rubber though as opposed to foam.

So looking for suggestions on who makes quality ones of these gaskets and if sealer should be used between the bezel and the backing plate.

Thanks.....Dave












15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring a galvanized finish ??? on: October 17, 2014, 09:50:29 AM
I wanted to report back on what I tried and what worked and what didn't work on cleaning these up.

These backing plates were not in all that bad of condition to start with. It was like the surface had oxidized and turned a dull flat gray in some areas. It was also rough in texture when you ran your finger over it.

Here's what didn't have any effect on them at all: powdered dishwashing soap....vinegar.....milk and baby powder.

Before buying any polish, I decided to try some Brasso that I already had. That worked! I also tried some fine grade bronze wool. That also worked. So I decided to try a combination of both. Applying the Brasso with the bronze wool. I think it worked about as good as anything could. It didn't make them pristine but it made the outside look like the areas inside that had been sealed up and never exposed.

Doing this did not leave any scratch marks unless you pressed really hard. Where I had tried Scotchbrite earlier in a hidden area, that definitely left scratch marks.

After the Brasso,  I washed them and tried the suggested buffing with a plastic scrubbing pad. That added more shine to them. I was surprised by that. I didn't think it would do anything. I finished them with a coat paste wax inside and out.

The before and after pictures don't look much different but the difference is there. The before picture makes them look better than they really were. The after picture doesn't do them justice.

Over all, I am happy with the way they came out.

Thanks for all the suggestions................Dave

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