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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: ? California Plates - 1967 corresponding letters ? on: May 18, 2009, 10:01:30 AM
GaryL , I can understand that logic in as far as a possilble sale of a car in a county like Modoc in northeastern California and where maybe the car dealer is a small one and in that day they were selling 12 cars a month, so realistically the DMV in that county may have been sitting on older stock with earlier alpha prefixes. If and when you see the car again get down to particulars and see if the POP is with the car and find out which dealer it was sold from. My Nov. 66 car was first registered in L.A. county with high numbers of sales and my Oct. 66 car was first registered in Tulare county with low sales numbers. For being six weeks apart in build dates they are certainly following a pattern. As for getting a set of plates I can understand your concerns for aligning a build date to the three prefix letters and at the prices they are getting for them you do not want to pay and then find out that the possibility of being correct for the period is not working out. Kind of like a manifold date that follows the engine block VIN portion by four weeks. Keep studying and keep us posted when you see that ECS car again ... good luck genminmar
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: ? California Plates - 1967 corresponding letters ? on: May 17, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
GaryL,  Just got to thinking. Huh There is the possibility even if the ECS=12A car had a current sticker on it, it  may not actually be a bonified registered car. Beings it was at a car show does not mean it was driven on a California road or highway to get there, could have came on a trailer. But it would look good at the show with the black plate and "assuming" a current sticker. I really do not know it to be this way, just a guess. My logic is, the sequential order for a 67 Camaro with an ECS prefix is way to early of the "E" letter to be applied to the car when in fact as was stated above the Oct 66 build car had "SWUxxx for the prefix. I also have two 64 Novas and they carry #1 car PBRxxx and #2 car has PCKxx for the prefix. So my thinking is that the cars with a prefix letter begining with "E" must be earlier than these 64 Novas and that a 67 Camaro with an "E" prefix does not allow by the timing and release of plates regarding the plates being distributed in a sequential order. Point is, "The time frame does not allow" If anyone is looking for black plates they should be certain of the approximate date windows in which the car should fall into. All the information in these post can get you close by weeding out inaccuracies. But if we had some input from people with 1963 cars we could ascertain if maybe the prefix of "E" fits in prior to 1964. You can appear at a car show in Illinois and show it with period correct California Black Plate, but then after the show reinstall the Illinois plate and drive it out of the gate. We will wait for those with 63' cars to weigh in. Great topic though.

Note: In my earlier response to this topic I incorrectly stated the #3 car build date, should have been (#3 car build date third week Jan. 1967 01C  black plate prefix UDKxxx)
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: ? California Plates - 1967 corresponding letters ? on: May 16, 2009, 07:03:05 PM
I have three blackplate Camaros #1  is a 1st week of October 66 build date with SWUxxx  #2 is a 2nd week of November 66 build date with TVRxxx and #3 is a 1st week of December build date and is UDKxxx  Take into account some cars spent a little more time on the car lot and got later Alpha letters because they were at the DMV 4,5 and 6 weeks and maybe even longer depending on when the car sold. So it will have a later sequential order. Another possibility is that an out of state transfer could take place on a 4 or 5 month old Camaro and could get a much later sequential order.
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Space between groups ???/// 67 Cowl Tag on: May 14, 2009, 08:04:10 PM
Looking at a 67 cowl tag with a lot of options, After the "E" in the first group and then the options begin to appear in the second group, and here they are   2EMGRS3DLS     and down a line to 4F 5YB. The question, should there be a space after the "S" option on group "2" and between the #3 group of options. More so, should it read like this 2EMGRS 3DLS, or do these things just leave the factory like this. Seems to me also that the groupings would be in alphabet order. The thinking is should'nt line #2 be 2EGMRS and line # 5 be 5BY, just something to consider!
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: A/C Heater blower fan switch on: May 12, 2009, 06:54:40 PM
It is factory installed,   RPO   C-60
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: A/C Heater blower fan switch on: May 12, 2009, 02:43:32 PM
Sorry for leaving out the important stuff,    " A 67 Camaro with AC"
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / A/C Heater blower fan switch on: May 12, 2009, 11:43:43 AM
Tried finding one of these years ago and the local GM dealer could not get me one. I have not been able to get one anywhere else either. The old one still works but it comes on and off periodically, it appears to be melted down inside and makes contact at some point and triggers the blower fan on and off. Have seen in the "Resto" catalogs the switch for non A/C cars but have not seen one for A/C equipped cars. Need Direction!    Thanks Huh
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1967 chrome door lock knobs on: May 07, 2009, 02:03:17 PM
Yip,Yip,Yip!        I dont know who they outsourced these from but we will be on the lookout in the future, looks like a two piece part with the stem being formed and then a cap sealed around the top. Any others with an OEM car with the originals should certainly respond here!
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1967 chrome door lock knobs on: May 06, 2009, 07:43:56 PM
As for Camaro's, I have a 67 RS/SS with deluxe interior and the knobs "still original" are chrome plastic, I also have a 67 RS with the standard interior and the knobs are black plastic, have a 68 CST pickup and the knobs are chrome plastic, growing up we had a top of  the Chevy line 69 Caprice and it had chrome plastic knobs. If there was a supplier that Chevy used that produced any in metal we will need more of them to come out of the woodwork, personally I have never seen such an animal, but when I do I will let ya know, ya all chime in here. genminmar
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restore, replace, add to ???? on: May 06, 2009, 10:01:59 AM
No, it does not have any options added to it. There are options on the car that were not defined on the trim tag. I was told it could have been because it had so many options, that some were grouped together. The dealer was in a local town near me, I live three miles from the lady I got it from, it was a graduation present for their daughter and yes, I have the Protecto-Plate. I just thought that it would be more accurate if the options that were on the car were rightfully on the trim tag, then I would not get questioned by others when this anomally rears up. It happened once and this guy thought he knew it all,  I said the car has never been touched. He thought otherwise. The only thing added I know of is a front curb tickler, other than that it has one broken door lock pop up knob. I am the second owner and would not add anything to the car, it was an ordered car and is loaded with options, for a girly car they sure got her more than she needed. They original owners were Japanese farmers, lemons and oranges and yes, they had the car painted like a lemon the second time around, it is so nice I have no reason to change it back to Butternut Yellow. I guess I will leave the tag alone, Thanks for the input genminmar
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Restore, replace, add to ???? on: May 05, 2009, 09:21:16 PM
Hello to introduce myself, Genminmar, new to CRG, my first post. This I am sure has been covered before.   I own a 67RS YY and have had it since I conned the lady out of it at the grocery store back in 1975. I have learned a lot since the internet and all the books about restoration that have been available since back then. My car is pristine, never restored, although on the second paint job. Question? Would like to replace the cowl tag with two characters that were not included when the vehicle left assembly. Should I have a reproduction made or is there a service company that can impress onto my existing tag the two characters that I need. The characters are in the #4 and #5 positions of the options that were to have been fitted and listed at the factory. Also noted,  the tag says it came with power windows but they aint none on it. From what I know, if the parts bin was empty, they did not stop the assembly line and it went to the dealer without the ordrered option. As to what is not there , there are options on the car and they are not listed in the appropiate placement on the cowl tag, there is space there for the characters and I would like to have them included. What do you smart fellars think.
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