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46  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clones, tributes, recreations.. on: December 24, 2013, 10:31:03 AM
I think it depends on how the clone is done.   

Yes every time you get on Ebay, or autotraderclassics there are cars listed,  and most look good..  But most are thrown together to make a buck..    Ive seen only a few cloned cars that have had the time taken to make them correct..    Now would i be in for a cloned 69 copo,  YES..  But i would want it perfect,  chalk marking, correct wheels, correct 512 block,  stickers,  winters castings and the CHAMBERED EXHAUST!!!    That blows my mind when i see them on line..  people will pay $3-400 for a steering wheel then slap $69.99 flow masters under it.. 

i've been down the road of matching number perfect cars.   Yes they are nice to look at and talk about and see the look in people eyes as they are day dreaming about your car,   BUT,  in terms of Mid Year corvettes, 
I have a lot more fun,  a lot more stories, and lot more rummors floating around town and with friends of beating the ever living snot out of my dads old 67 vs perfect car   

To me its just hard to enjoy a perfect car,  your worried about everthing,  water, a rock chip,  if the exhaust gets to warm so it bakes the coatings,  etc etc etc..  Where as my dads old abused car,  I have no problems loading a friend up and side stepping the clutch at 6 or 7000 rpm and letting it eat.. That car has been abused from day one,  crashed a few times, and put up hurt, wet and sore a bunch of time...    Does it look bad,  YES, is it cool, YES!    With that said i do set back and look at the car,  and wish that it wasnt cracking,  wish someone had not keyed it a few years ago,  and bla bla bla...    But at the same time,  its fun.   Its like nice garage find / dont give a crap look lol..   

I have a neighbor that love cars, and has the money to back him,   In his ware house he has two or three shelby cobras,  a bunch of mustangs,  GT500-350 etc,  a few porsche speedester,  two 300 Sl gulwing cars,  a ferrari daytona  and the list goes on and on..   His daily ride is a 15 year old S class benz...  every now and he will go buy the house in a "cheaper" car from his collection..      But if that was Me,  id have a factory five or something that was exact clone of my cobra,  Id probably also do clone of that 300SL Wink   
 
I bought my 69 camaro, to do a copo clone.   I wanted it exact,  have thought and planned for years on what to do and what i want and where to get the parts.   However ive changed what i wanted now do to what your saying that everyone wants to clone one, or has cloned one.   

My game plan now is still a copo clone,  wheels, paint interior,  i want to do the base car,  no console in the floor,  might even do radio and heater delete.. 
I want the chalk marking in the places you can see them and they will not wash off..   

But do a 632ci motor (or bigger) paint it all orange ( i know i know)  dress everthing on it correctley to look like the 427,  stickers and all,   then back it up with a tremec TR6060 or that T56.( 6 speed, close ration option,  same as M22 1-4) Either a ford 9 inch or maybe a 12 bolt,  with 4:10 or 4:56 gears,    then top it off with that new FAST fuel injection that looks like a carb....  build the motor on a 11.1 compression sp its pump gas friendly and go play dirty pool Wink

 
47  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69Z hard start, backfires on acceleration, stalls when breaking, related issues? on: December 24, 2013, 09:44:57 AM
to be honest i would have to go look,  I want to say its a holley street advenger? and i think the intake is a Edelbrock.     Its probably a good carb if everything is fixed,  but ive never had good luck with electric chokes, and vacuum secondarys.   I have a Holley 850? double pumper on the vette with manual secondaries.  I never have a problem out of it besides the usual adjustments for weather. 

There is a 850 for sale in the local traiding times,  but thats over kill for the camaro.   
on a side note i did run across a two 4's on a weind manifold and two stage direct port kit with optional fogger set up...   But considering im pretty sure this a stock motor with a cam,  it would go bad in a hurry lol..     

I just dont want to spend a lot of money on the car at this time to get the little problems worked out.   I bought the car for the body / frame to be honest,  and i got lucky that it sorta runs.   Id rather go cheap /used and make it reliable to drive for now,  and save my money for big and better parts,   Then again ive thought about just taking to the lake and putting it into storage until i buy all the parts...       

The game plan is a real real big big block, with a 6 speed and prob a ford 9 inch,     or reuse my current 496ci motor thats turboed,  and 4l80E,  not sure a manual will live when banging gears under boost.
48  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69Z hard start, backfires on acceleration, stalls when breaking, related issues? on: December 23, 2013, 10:09:42 AM
well i had time to look at mine this weeked..  first off i only know a little about carbs,

 #1,  if you take one apart make sure your kids arnt around or it will never go back together!

 Anyway,   i had a freind help me and pretty much the carb needs help.    the choke is electric and has been bypassed.  then for the stumbling he adjusted a buch of stuff with no help.  next it was take apart and cleaned,  no help either.. 

He said from the looks of it,  i need a accelorator pump,  a cam something, and a few other things...    So i think im just going to buy a new carb that isnt a eletric choke and a vacuum secondary,     
49  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: double hump heads on: December 23, 2013, 09:48:36 AM
They are good heads for old stuff.   I had a set on my vette until about 6 months ago..  as 69Z28 said its more of a upper rpm head.. 

If your thinking about putting them up for sale to get newer aftermarket ones id just keep those if the car is matching number as you say..  last time i looked those heads where not bringing any real moeny..    Only reason i upgraded mine is nut went threw the motor and butsted a hole in the head.. 
50  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Firestone vs. Goodyear Poly-glas tires on: December 20, 2013, 11:07:46 AM
Not camaro related,   but on my 67 corvette,  we tried everything to get it more stable / not as scary and wondering...    I finally gave up and put on a set of those cooker radials.   solved all my problems.  

I will admit that i miss it a little bit,  the scary as can be feeling..   But at the same time its so nice to put on the brakes and stop straight,  hammer the trottle and it goes straight for the most part,  be able to let go of the wheel on the road and it cross to the other side...    

I do still have two bia ply red lines,   If i had two more wheels i think i would swap them out  every now and then just to play..   when it was bia plys 1-3 was use less,   it was slow as crap but a BLAST,     rolling along some one tell you to get on it.  Floor it in 2nd or 3ed,  and it kills the tires..    

With the radials,  it doesnt even spinn in first now,   I mean it will, if you use the clutch,   but from a roll it just goes..

 this is a few weeks ago,   but it will give you idea of how nice radials are, 

55 mph, 

http://youtu.be/v6ctPB69YZA
 
im holding the steering wheel and cell phone, 

http://youtu.be/KyGvFEoX94E

51  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69Z hard start, backfires on acceleration, stalls when breaking, related issues? on: December 20, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
Mine is doing the same thing,    However i just got the car so i dont know what has been done and what hasent.

When i go to start it in the AM,   It takes for every..  Plan to spend about 5 min just to get it to start.   Its like i have no fuel...    Dont touch the gas it just cranks and cranks,   but you can hold it wide open and it just cranks and cranks..   finally it will start sputtering and come to life..  even when it does start it keeps dying.

Once you make it out of the garage / drive way it  back fires, stumbles a lot...    once the motor is all the way warm it does some what better but its way off.   

Ive ordered a rebuild kit for the carb... i hope to do that saturday.
52  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / 6 speed swap, tremec TR6060 on: December 19, 2013, 03:33:21 PM
I was wondering if any of you have done a modern trans swap on a camaro..

We are in the process of swapping a LSA (cts-v motor) and TR6060 into a nova II for a friend, its a complete pull out with ecu and gas pedal,  anyway i was looking up the ratios of these trans and on tremec web page they have a few sets listed..  one of them is very close to the M22 close ratio trans, but of course you get the two over drive gears.

This got me thinking i would love to have that in the camaro,  then i can regear the rear end and still be highway friendly.  In my vette i have the close ratio with 4:56 gears and love it,  Unless i need to go on the free way lol..   

Tremec show one of the options as "C"    1st,   2.29  2nd, 1.61, 3ed 1.21,  4th 1.00 5th, .078 6th, .067,

The M22 close ratio like i have in the vette,  1st, 2.20  2nd 1.64  3ed 1.28   4th 1.00

Im assuming ill need a cross memeber,  ( mainly becuse the nova will need one)  then maybe a hydrolic conversion,  a clutch pedal assembly and of course a clutch and shifter...

53  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help please, decoding car on: December 19, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
Id have to look on the tire size to be sure,  i know they have been switched out and the rear are wide,  i get some rubbing sound ever now and then..  im not sure what the height is,  when i popped the beauty rings off to wet sand i noticed its a 15' wheel,  i think the  tire said 265,  but i didnt pay a lot of attention.   My daughter was night to point that it has different tires,  " hey dad,  why those tires have different names?  long puse,  i guess the tire store guy cant read"

I know its not to in the 4:56 range,   the vette had 7.70 X15 and i went to a radial from cooker in a 205-75.   in 4th it turns abour 42-4300 at 65 with the 4 speed..   so in the camaro thats probably a 3:73 as you said

54  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: How do I get a 67 Camaro to wheelstand (serious question) on: December 19, 2013, 09:37:58 AM
Sad

All i see is red X!


Its power, and traction,  and to be honest a bad set up on the rear end or way to much power lol...

ive got friends with stuff that will do wheelies,  and while its cool,  unless you build the rest of the parts to take the hit and bounce it can get expenisve in a hurry..

Brad has a 87 GMC truck,  406 on alcohol,  104mm turbo,  9 inch ford, 4 linked and huge tires..   truck does a small hop when it leave the line on 4 psi,   well this summer he bumped the boost controller on accident,  it turned off..  truck left the line and the little hop on the launch turned into a hop,  then it rolled out about 30 feet and stood up in the air dragging the shoot.  lol..   

Drews buick its is close to the same on suspenion,  but runs a 275 drag radial,  it doesnt pull both front tires, it just does a one wheel wheelie,  looks like the car is twisting its self in half...  just picture black buick that looks like a tractor pull on tv..



As the all said it can be done,   weight transfer, suspension, and power.. well traction! 
55  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: New 69 Z28 302 rebuild, dizzy has rev limiter. What is the best RPM limitation? on: December 19, 2013, 09:13:44 AM
well said 69Z,

on the that 327 ive got its been hurt a few time lol...  the last time they said i could twist it more but if something happens they cant fix it again..  so its at 7800..  still sounds awesome threw side pipes,  well to me the neighborhood isnt impressed. 
56  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help please, decoding car on: December 19, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
well i looked again last night,   i guess im missing a number on the rear axle.   It looks like BP 04256.     which by that chart on here is a 10 bolt, with high gear ratio,  so some has swapped out the gear at some point.  it turns 3500 rpms at 70 mph. 

as for the engine pad,  it's either an aftermarket block ?  or there is so much paint build up on it that i cant see or feel any numbers.   i guess at some point ill take the alt off and get a razer blade or something to scrap the paint off.. 



57  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Side Exhaust on my 69 on: December 18, 2013, 10:00:42 AM
just guessing here but i would think you need long tube headers, then at least 4 90* bends.


So headers down,  then maybe extension to get under firewall,   two 90* bends ( one right one left ) maybe some short tubing to run to the outside of car,  another 90* bend to run into the side pipes..   

there are a lot of on line store that sale the chambered sticks for vette's  shouldnt be hard to do,

My next mod is the chambered exhaust under the car and out the back,  but i need to try to fit 3"   
58  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: New 69 Z28 302 rebuild, dizzy has rev limiter. What is the best RPM limitation? on: December 18, 2013, 09:55:28 AM
maybe i miss read but what parts do you have?

Its takes more than just a set rpm i want to turn it,   You can revve anything as far as you want ONCE! 

My 327 has MSD box set 7800,   but to get the motor live at that many rpms you need good parts,  and to get it to keep making power you need to have heads, cam and intake that will work in that power range.   Like i said you might have typed out all of that and i missed.. 
 I  just dont want you to go  " oh the guys on line said i can spinn them 7200 and then end up with a hand full of parts"
59  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help please, decoding car on: December 18, 2013, 09:45:49 AM
ill look again,   but those are the only numbers i saw on the rear end..     I cant see any numbers on the pad, its got ac line, alt etc in front of it.  maybe this weekend ill have time to dig into it

60  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help please, decoding car on: December 17, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Ok the rear end says
Gm 70
3894859 nf


I see two holes on the outside of the frame but nothing on the inside

I also only see one fuel line out of the tank. 
As for motor numbers I can't see anything with this brake booster and crap in the way lol

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