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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: trashing all interior i guess... what to keep? on: July 16, 2014, 08:24:03 AM
ZLP 995,   thats it,    i was scared at first when i started taking stuff out.  I my mind i had in-vision of metal that some one cut to cover big holes!   


17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: New body? on: July 14, 2014, 08:45:12 AM
Never mind,  i found what i was looking for on here with the search lol.
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / New body? on: July 14, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
I might have hit the wrong button,  but when did all the extra stuff get added to make a post?


So sister in laws live in guy was with me at the lake this weekend, and ask  why i dont just buy the entire body instead of mix my rust.

I said mainly because of money, I thought those dynacor? bodies where $15K...   bla bla


Anyway my floors have been done at some point and look to be in good shape,   as of now my firewall is good, ( i havent taken the car that far apart yet)   the hood is good, and the doors..   Which means i need roof, roof supports, 1/4, trunk lid, front fenders etc...  I looked at this up on line and its about $4K worth of parts...   which is a lot cheaper than a new body,  but then you have labor to put it on etc etc...


Anyway question is has anyone done the new body,  or is it better to just fix what you have...   The car will be going back black so body work will have to be perfect, which im sure the new bodies will need to be worked as well.  
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: 454 Street performance combination request on: July 03, 2014, 09:02:27 AM
what he said...

Just watch the compression,  if you want to stay pump gas friendly..   I went way over kill in the 90's with my vette,  its about 14 to 1 compression.   was not a big deal back then as 110 leaded was $2.99 a gallon... its not $7.99 and well i still only goes about 140 miles on a tank lol...    Its fun as poop though Wink 

If i had it to do all over again that what i would do with a 454,  496 stroker 10-11 compression  nasty cam ( im a cam guy) good clutch and beat it ever day...    Only problem i have is i like RPMS,  and it cost to turn a big motor,  The msd in the vette is set at 8K  :-)   love it  threw headers and factory sides,  although my head hurts when i get home...
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: trashing all interior i guess... what to keep? on: July 03, 2014, 08:42:12 AM
thanks guys, 

I got the rear seats apart last night and the passenger seat..    I just trashed all the leather, foam, and other stuff,  kept all metal parts..  the front seat doesnt frame doesnt look bad at all.   the rear is rusty but i think it is re usable,  i looked at them last night on line $700 bucks for rear seat frame  so ill see if i can clean this one up..   its sturdy, just ugly looking.

Also in the rear i found some tag that was in-between  the "tweed" (looks like old potato bag) and the foam,  or   Its a yellow tag and has had writing on top but its faded out,  the back has numbers,  look like a phone number but no area cod  ill look at lunch  but i think it said  764  XXX  then below that a letter and number  a few times.    bottom of the tag in red says Michigan, and something else..  pretty cool for sure,    under the passenger side seat there was a news paper stuck it in it,  its all faded as well but look old old...

I hope to get the driver side out, and the rest of the carpet next week,  kids have all the friends coming down to the lake for the long weekend..

On a side note,   whats the extra metal stuff on the floor board under the carpet on the body side,   like under the silver plate and beside the seat,   there is two pieces of loose molded metal that runs under the dash and back under the rear seat..  it seems to be bolted under the rear seat.   Just seems odd as there is nothing under it.   The floor is there and looks fine...   It almost looks like a cover plate / skid plate or something,   I just dont remember my 68 having that..  Ill try to get a pict at lunch.
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: trashing all interior i guess... what to keep? on: July 02, 2014, 01:47:11 PM
humm... not sure why they arnt showing.









22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / trashing all interior i guess... what to keep? on: July 02, 2014, 09:55:31 AM
Ive been gone a while.

Quick recap,   got Po-ed about the rust,   put the car in the other garage and forgot about it,   Then base ball rolled around and both kids played,  then both made All stars,  and both made travel ball,  but im pretty sure they are quitting TB...  Long story short its now July and i have looked at the car since November..

Ive given it a lot of thought and im going to just fix it over time...  It was never bought to make money so i guess ill just have a bigger money pit that i what i wanted..    Im going to do it all i guess..  new 1/4,  roof,  fenders, etc... and all the interior..   The car smells like a wet dog, mixed with mold, mixed with BO,  mixed with wet grass...  to the point  my garage stinks and now my corvette stinks..   So all the camaro interior going in the trash.. 

Is there any little things i should save,   so far the only thing that looks reusable is the front two seat frames,  the rear seat frame is a rust bent up mess.   I did keep the door seals plates?  (polished / chrome ) thinks inside the door,  and the seat knobs... 

What else should i keep?

Here is a few picts... 


rear seat.  I guess its cool its original, but man my dog smells better...




back side,  is this worth trying to blast and paint? 



Passenger front seat... is that suppose to be black?




23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: 6 speed swap, tremec TR6060 on: June 30, 2014, 02:42:27 PM
in the nova the tunnel did have to be raised..   the 6060 has two places for a shifter to be installed ill try to get some photos of the nova.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: who do you all get body parts from? on: January 29, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
I think to do it correctly and not have 50 gallon bucket of bondo i need everything but the doors and hood Sad

25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: 6 speed swap, tremec TR6060 on: January 28, 2014, 09:45:32 AM
angry,   it can be done,  but i talked to tremec and they said the Maginisum T-56 is a easier swap.     

With that said,  the 6060 is still going in the nova II at some point..   the shop just been coverevd up with other cars.


I do know by looking that a 6060 will have to have a custom bracket to hold it,  and maybe a custom shifter...
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: who do you all get body parts from? on: January 27, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
Im in bristol..  va/tn.   

27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 27, 2014, 02:09:19 PM
yea thats what im thinking,   Im not killed in the car,   i went buying a "rust free" car and paid more that i feel like i should have at this point considering what i have to fix,  but if was say $5K less i would felt better..  Ive looked for years and its either a good car $30k ish,  to start with,  or it needs everything for $10-15K.   

The cars ive seen that are already done are like $60K sooo, in the long run i should have about that amount in this one but have what i want,   but with that said big motors arnt cheap so i cant really compair prices..

I bought a running driving pretty good looking car,  it just hid its flaws well...   Sorta like the really hot woman from the bar or club,  they never look the same in normal lighting lol...    It is what it is i guess.     I looked on AMD and it looks like i need about $3K worth of parts so its as bad as i thought..  I just dont know what labor will cost to put it together. 

Ive been down the road before,  once you start you dont stop.  Back in 1990 same deal on 67 vette..  Frame off restoration,  everything new,  then crashed the car like a pro in 94,   suied erie ins car set for years,  when we  fixed it i fixed as a driver in 96-97,  fast forward to now and its showing its age..   I havent done anything to it, becuase if you fix one thing then the rest has to be done.  That and i kinda like the look of the abused car,  stress cracks, bubber melted on the paint,  paint faided in spots and then some a hole keyed it...    its like the 67 vette that no one cares about...  turns quite a few heads...   heck i havent washed it in 3 years,  i just get it and ride with all the dust and dirt on it,  lol,  the exhaust has turned the red lines black on the back as well as the wheels...  look like im rolling slicks on steelie in the back,   but its fun.. 

28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 27, 2014, 10:00:53 AM
Sorry for the late reply.  this post has blown up,   i posted all those last week then get the flu,   


Yes i got the car from a dealer,  i dont think they knew the car had the problems,  and the way it was all hidden there was no way to to know.  besdides the roof,  i guess the car has been fixed correctley over time,  the body work was straight as can be, and gaps where good, also all the pannels sounded the same,     I guess the only way i might have been able to find out about the roof is if i took the head linner down,  but im not what you can see with the it down.. ive never had one out in a camaro.   

What i find interesting is they fiberglassed the roof, on the top,  then did nothing on the sides,  just left those holes about the size of your thumb...   or maybe they came in after they painted the part and fixed the roof?   I do know we went over the car as pretty good,  i figued a roof sikn from the start because i dont like the vinyl top,  and if i had left the rest alone it would have probably been ok,  but if im going to do the roof might as well do everything else..


I guess for now ill sand down those two doors and see if anything is under them.   If not then i know i need both front fenderes,  both 1/4 pannels,  trunk lid,  roof and god knows what under the roof skin...   

Then take the car to our lake house one night and just leave it,   ive got a 2 car garage down there thats to small for the sububrans to fit in so it just empty... it has heat and air and a security system so i think ill just take it down there and leve it until i buy all the parts.. 

The last custom car i did,  we did all the body work and paint first which sucked,   so ill probably just order everything,  then get some money saved up to have it all installed,  then just ride it in primer until motor and everything is done..    Its a total pain in the ars working on a finished car,   it seems like the harder you try for something not to happen the more stuff happens...   


I am a dealer and he was a delaer but ive never had a issue like this.  In the past ive had to have cars bought back that mileage issues,  or  frame damage,  but not over rust.   So i ask a friend who deals in the old cars all the time and he said its yes and no,   Yes i can try to fight and no its probably not work it unless they other dealer just got scared and bought it back.   but chances of that are slim to non.  So im going lawers fee's etc and on the old car stuff its not a open and shut case..    Exaple if you bought real copo car, with everything correct, numbers, papers etc,  and then get it and the motor is out of say a 71 dump turck, then yes you have something to work with,    but with the rust bening covered up,   his lawers will play the card of he didnt know,  bla bla bla...     

I think if i try to go that way,  i just need to call the dealer and see who he got it from,  he only had the car a month by they way title work show's.    play the card of both of us are interested in talking to him... 
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 22, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
well to be honest i dont know..

i have some friends that do body stuff,  of course everything is fixable as they say.     Im sorta thinking new 1/4 that are the full length,  new roof skin, and what ever is needed under the skin...   Im about as far as i can go considering i know nothing about stuff..  looks like front fends are about 250-300,  so im this far in might as well get those as well.   to be honest it looks like i have two good doors and a hood. Sad..    the fire wall looks good on the out side, but knows once its all taken apart. 

I dont plan on ever putting the car up for sale, so i guess fix it correctly is my only option.   I just wish i had known i would have passed and bought a "rough" car...

the original game plan was a copo cloned look,   black wheels black body no options...  then a big big motor,  like 632 or something...  but now that im going to have to cough up this money for new parts, and labor and paint,  that will be a long time down the road,   other thought was th400 on the column and my old turbo big block thats fuel injected..

Right now i just try not to puke when i see it     
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 22, 2014, 10:13:27 AM
Rubber glove Wink    I cought a nuckel on one of those rivit? things that holds the vinyl roof on,   after i got some gloves Wink

they are thin, but have the rubber coating on the bottom.  I always just buy the cheap one becuse once i take something off i can never find it again between the kids and dogs..   
I tried this pair and they are good for big job but if you really need your fingers to work they dont well.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_67271-94953-LW37120/L5P_0__?productId=3516488&Ntt=gloves&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dgloves&facetInfo=

Now yesterday i got a pack of them for like $4.00  but they are not chemical stuff,   i had to put a gate up someone kicked in,   rusted screws are not my friend Wink

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