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661  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Seat Belts??? on: May 11, 2009, 03:01:24 PM
 Hi Kevin, I was giving this some more thought.    I worked on Assembly lines when I was younger, and at one point I was a Assembly line Serviceman, and I remember times when I was told to go get just a "hand-ful" of parts to finish up a run of something.    I also remember times that a "change-over" was done, and a part didn't get changed, and didn't get caught until it reached the inspection area.    Anything like this could explain.    Thanks again!   Mike
662  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Seat Belts??? on: May 11, 2009, 11:32:49 AM
All of the belts are a complete matched set, all 4 date codes the same(40D66).   The 2 front are Model # 310 and the 2 back are Model # 311(IRVINGS would have been #210 and #211)    There are no retractors on these belts, which would have been correct for the early build date(11A).   And as I stated before even the length is correct, they have the Fisher Coach emblem on the standard buckle which I believe is also correct.   The back of the buckle has a part  ROBBINS-JR-6704.   Maybe this helps more, Thanks!!   Mike
663  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Seat Belts??? on: May 10, 2009, 11:04:46 AM
Thanks Kurt, I really respect your opinion.   And I completely understand that there is an industry standard.   But, I live in an area where there is a GM plant within 90 miles, and a Chrysler plant within 50 miles.  And I am an avid Car enthusiast(I attend a lot of car events), I have talked to people who have worked at these plants, and have heard stories of how incorrect parts get into vehicles.  I have a friend who installed Glass in the Chrysler plant and he has told me how several different Date Codes would get on one rack.   I have personally seen (in the late 70's) a Brand New Chevy truck delivered to the owner with GMC Sierra emblems on the side.  And I've heard other stories.   Bottom line, considering the condition of both the car and the belts, and the fact that nearly everything else on this car codes out correct, I really believe these belts were original to the car.   They are a complete matched set, and I believe that the Date codes would be correct.(approx. 3 to 4 weeks before the car build date)   The belt lenghts are even correct, per your report.   Do you know what these belts should have been installed in?   Was that car line also built at the Van Nuys plant during this time period?   With respect!!!  Mike
664  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Correct Seat Belts??? on: May 09, 2009, 12:43:56 AM
Has the Seat Belt report been updated recently?   I have an 11A -67 Camaro Coupe built in LOS, I actually think the car was built the first day of Nov. due to the A638 code in upper right corner.   Anyhow, my question is,   The seat belts are ROBBINS   1967   MODEL# 310 front, and #311 rear.   Date Code 40D66.   I have read your report on Seat Belts, and it states that ROBBINS seat belts were used in other Chevrolet lines but not in the Camaro.    These belts appear in every way to be what was original to the car, could they be correct?   The car has been in my family for the past 21 years, and they were not changed during that time.   And it just doesn't seem to make sense that someone would go to the trouble of changing out Seat Belts and coming up with the correct date codes.   I'm finding almost everything else on the the car is coding out correct.   Thanks for any help!
665  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 15 X 6 DC Rally Wheels on: April 23, 2009, 11:01:27 PM
Thanks again, Paul!   You've been a lot of help.   Thanks for the link!
666  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 15 X 6 DC Rally Wheels on: April 22, 2009, 10:15:38 PM
  Thanks Paul, I understand what you are saying about offset.   The back of the center of the wheel (where it mounts to the hub), is almost "on center" .06 isn't much.    Whereas .50 is a half inch.   I guess I understand "backspacing" better than I do offset, in sense of #'s.   So is it .44" more backspace?  Or .44" less backspace?    Thanks again.    Mike
667  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 15 X 6 DC Rally Wheels on: April 22, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
 Hi Paul, it was my understanding that the JK code at the end of the 15 X 6 JK, was the rim profile.   And from info. I have the DF wheel also has the JK profile.   I understand that the offset or backspacing could be different, do you know how much?   FYI; I'm assuming you looked at my reply above as to (I intend to use these wheels) and how I intend to build this car.   At this point I'm not planning on putting original Dual Piston Brake Calipers on the car(I'm planning to use an available kit), will this make any difference?   I have maintained all along that I don't intend to pass this off as an original Z/28, one look at the Cowl tag anyone with any Camaro knowlege will know this car was built too early to be a original Z.   Thanks for your help!     Mike
668  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 15 X 6 DC Rally Wheels on: April 21, 2009, 08:31:13 PM
Sorry Warren, I do plan to use them.   My plan is to build my car to a Z/28 "tribute/resto-mod".    And I plan to use 2 of these on the front, and 1 in the trunk.   I plan to use 15 X 8's on the rear.
669  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 15 X 6 DC Rally Wheels on: April 21, 2009, 02:45:37 AM
OK, I hope this works I am going to try to attach a photo.   I did some closer searching on the outside of the rim (between the beads) and found these stampings.   Would be on the back half of center, nearer the bead.  Would service replacements have had this Kelsey Hayes logo on them?   Also, you can see fairly clearly that this wheel is stamped with a 12 & a 67, this is the wheel I thought was a Dec. 67 wheel.   I can also make out a 4 & a 68 on the wheel that I thought was an Apr. 68.  The third wheel also has this same logo with a small A  & a 8   stamped under the 15 X 6 JK.   the A & the 8  are stamped at various angles compared to the straight line of the 15 X 6 JK.   Do these stampings add any clarity to the date codes?   ThanX!
670  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: I need some help with my Camaro trim tag on: April 20, 2009, 12:15:57 AM
From the info. you have given,

TR  76 - there was only 3 interior options that started with 76 and they were all Black.     the N-N   PAINT code is
                                                                                                                          Madiera Maroon lower&upper
the  E in option group 1 is Tinted Windows(all) - option group2  L is 4 spd. floor shifter
option group4 P is SS 350                                                                                   
                                                                                   Hope this helps, sounds like maybe you knew this much.
671  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / 15 X 6 DC Rally Wheels on: April 19, 2009, 11:54:29 PM
  I have done some research on the 15 X 6 Rally Wheels.  I pretty sure the correct 15 X 6 Rally's for a '67 Z/28 were coded DF.   I have 3, not a matched set, that are coded DC as follows:   K17  12   (stem)  7   DC
                                                                                  K18  4    (stem)  24  DC
                                                                                  K18  8    (stem)  20  DC   
From research I have done I believe that the  first Wheel codes out,  Dec. 7 -67.   #2 Wheel I believe is Apr. 24 -68.   #3 Wheel Aug. 20 -68.    I have found information that the 15 X 6  DC code was used on Corvettes in '66 & '67, but I believe that Corvette went to 15 X 8 Wheels in '68, which these wheels code out to be.    Anybody have any ideas?   Thanks!
672  Site Comments / Discussion / Site Comments/Discussion / Re: Upload problems on: April 18, 2009, 12:24:07 AM
I am also having the same problem as Panther-Buff.  I am trying to upload a picture to my profile, I get the correct path but when I click on change profile it goes back to no pic.
673  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: How did Chevy Use the same block for a 350 as a 302 in 1967? on: April 17, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
  I have done a lot of research on this subject, as I would like to make my Camaro a Z/28 tribute car.(I have no intention of ever passing it off as an original Z, as I plan to leave it an Auto. car probably 700R4)   My 327  2bbl. block casting code is the same code that they used for the Z/28  302 engine block.   The suffix code will tell you what application it was used in.(mine is ME)(Z/28 302 was MO I believe)   Your idea that the 302 is a 327 block with a 283 crank is correct, both 283 & 327 were small journal for '67, so the 283 crank would swap right into the 327 block.  I believe that the 350 was large journal from the get go, so the 283 crank will not swap in.   Hope this helps!
674  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN vs. Cowl Tag Build # on: April 17, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
Thanks all !    I went back to the report here on VIN. & Cowl tags, now the different "threads" makes sense(ie; 8032 standard interior coupe)   I also forgot to mention, in position 2 (top right) is  A 638.   Somewhere I found an explanation of this, the first letter was used for build day of month( A=1st., B=2nd., C= 3rd., and so on) and the letters were only used for actual build days(not calendar days) can anyone confirm this?   This would mean the car was built on Nov. 1st.
675  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / VIN vs. Cowl Tag Build # on: April 17, 2009, 12:41:20 AM
  I read the report here on this subject, which left me just as confused as before.   It is a 11A - 12437 LOS car, the seq. build # 8032, which in no way correlates with the VIN.#113583.(why is this so)   I guess my question is, as far as all Camaros built in '67, where does this one stack up as far as early?Huh
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