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976  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Educate Me on: February 23, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
I'm with you Ko-lec-tor..   Smiley
977  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl Tag Check on: February 19, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
Moving a vin tag, and sheet metal sections with the hidden vin numbers on it from one car to another body that had a different VIN on it originally is a felony in every state in the union.  ...

That's correct, because that is one method employed by auto thieves, to hide the VIN of the car they've stolen...

...Moving a VIN tag, and hidden vins numbers from one car to a replica body like a Dynacorn is OK, as the Dynacorn body is considered a large replacement part, it was never a car before the VINs were transfered to it.  ...

This statement would seem to imply that it's not the 'application of a VIN' to a autobody that is illegal, but the actual removal of a VIN from a factory built auto body that is illegal...?   If so, wouldn't it be an illegal act to remove the VIN from the rusted/damaged car *(ZL1)*  in this example case???   Does this suggest that law enforcement authorities could discern that the body the VIN was applied to was a 'dynacorn' rather than a stolen car body (but we can't??)..

... That said, whats a ZL1 VIN tag on a replacement body with a non original engine and drivetrain worth?  don't know but it shouldn't be much higher than 0.

All it says to me is that the person (owner) at one time had possession of a ZL1 body, before he cut it up (assuming the plate were original)...  not much different than holding the registration slip of a ZL1 (or ??) that you bought/owned at one time, but now don't...
978  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: General talk about Trans-Am cars, parts, whatever... on: February 19, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
one word...   WOW....   Smiley
979  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay... What a Car! on: February 19, 2014, 09:41:00 AM

I really like that car, (PBT) or not.. Smiley    Does anyone know what happened on the first auction?  Did it make reserve? or ??
980  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 17, 2014, 12:09:25 AM
Since money doesn't sound to tight, and the repro fenders sound like an option: get the repro fenders, and the good originals and fit what you have if you can make them work, run them. If your repro supplier is close by, return it and say it didn't fit close enough. I have bought items that were in stock from good mark, if it didn't fit close enough, (sometimes way off) I had no issue with returning them. I test fit everything NOS, Original, and repro, because 40 years has gone by, and it seems some stuff fits spot on, other stuff even NOS stuff can be off. I bought a "NOS" fender for my 64 C/10, it was the worst fitting piece I had between the 3. The repro fit better, original was a close second,( the original was a bit rough, remember were talking truck). Just want you take the easy road, instead of trying to wrestle with stuff that may fit someone else's ride much better.
One other thing Camaros are not Ferrari's that were assembled by hand, and the fitment from the factory was not precise, like we expect at cars shows today. GM kicked 10s of thousands of cars out the factory doors every week, panel fit was a "its good enough" its within the margin of error type of thing. Today with our own cars we tend to be more picky and want all the gaps to be spot on, when a lot of parts have even more variance we are looking for the opposite. Just something to keep in mind when test fitting, is all.

Bullitt?  Did your car slip out of the factory without the 'B' stamp on the firewall?  Smiley    J/K

Unless I'm mistaken Chevy's body fit (gap) spec was 1/4" +/- 1/16 (ie. 3/16 - 5/16")..  Of course a car looks much better if all the gaps are consistent and not towards the 5/16" end of the spread...  Smiley   Unfortunately, after 40-50 years, there isn't many cars that have escaped 'incidents' (bumps, scrapes, wrecks, body shops, etc), so those factory specs go out the window once the typical 'body shop' has had their fun.
981  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 68 350 engine - how to start on: February 14, 2014, 01:35:52 PM
Make sure it doesn't have a marine cam in it?  Smiley

I'd pull the plugs, squirt a little oil in the cylinders..  let the oil soak around the rings for awhile (a day or two) before trying to start.  Make sure you have good fuel, and the carburetor isn't going to leak ?.. ...  a lot depends on 1) Did you install the engine in the boat?  ie. are you familiar with it's running capability prior to going into the boat (since the last time the engine was ran?), and 2) how the engine/boat was stored..  indoors or outdoors ?  in what kind of environment...
982  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 14, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Very good!   Makes me feel a bit better.. and I just hope everything goes according to plan.

Thanks for posting that link JohnZ.. Smiley
983  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 14, 2014, 11:47:31 AM
Ko-Lec-tor..
For all of us 'car lovers' who aren't rich, we have to make compromises.  There's an intrinsic part to every decision we do with a car we've owned for a long time, or one we've coveted for a long time.  Few of us do anything 'purely' for the $$, but at the same time, unless we are rich, we have to consider the costs and return (whether it be $$ return a long time from now, or the enjoyment return as we drive the car)..

1)  It depends on which part you are speaking of.   My own 'opinions' and preferences are:  a) Original to my car, b) factory original to 'someone's car, even if it needs rebuilding/restoring/etc, c) NOS,  d) repro -US built, and e) 'other repro' (as a very last resort).   What I LIKE best is good original parts, even if more dull - ie. less new looking, and in some cases, a 40-50 yr old original part will look better than a 2-3 yr old reproduction part.   Regarding the radiator you have.  Don't you NEED a BB radiator? or are you going to aftermarket AL?? or ??   If you need the part that is original to your car, then don't sell it.   Re your NOS parts...  If they are worth considerably more than a good usable 'original' part, and the used part 'works' with your car, then sell the NOS?   If you are trying to *preserve* your car in as original a condition as possible, then that should answer most of your questions... Smiley.  Panels:  you *may* spend more making the reproduction panel (or even in some cases an NOS part) fit to your car, than repairing the original panel.   My approach is to make as minimal a repair as possible.  if you have 'rust or damage in only one area, then buy a reproduction panel that is larger than your rust/damage, cut it down to make the minimal repair.  If I bought an NOS panel I'd use the entire thing.  PS>   you'll never be able to use any of your 'good parts' unless and until you get your body work completed, so that adds another complexity....
2) I'd not be very interested in a 'used' Reproduction Part (except for a part I don't have and can't afford even in repro?)?  Generally a reproduction part bought this year will be better than the reproduction parts bought 10 yrs ago.   Repro parts are not perfect, but the manufacturers of them generally DO try to improve them based on the feedback they get.  Buying repro should be a last resort (IMO), and buying 'used repro' is a step below that IMO... Smiley
3) I think you can answer this part yourself (as we all can).  It DOES depend on what we want (or need).   What would YOU prefer?  What can you afford?  The bottom line is to FINISH your car, however you can afford it.   The most affordable means to finish a car is to:  1) use your original parts and rebuild them, and 2) do the work yourself (or get a car club buddy who is experienced on that task to assist you, and in return, you can assist him on something he needs that you are more expert in).
Remember that paying someone $50/man-hr or more can eat up a lot of $$ in a hurry.
984  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 13, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
I can tell ya right now I would volunteer to get lowered down there tomorrow if I could. I remember in 86' I was working on an off shore oil rig 7 days a week 12 hours a day. We were building it for Chevron. After completion to haul it away they had one of two of the biggest pieces of Eq. I had ever seen. One was one of two cranes that are the largest in the world. The other was a carrier out of japan, also one of the biggest in the world. They lifted that sucker up and put it on the carrier like it was a bag of candy. I think it was in two pieces, but still. Of course they wouldn't need THAT crane, but why would you leave ANY of them down there. Hook them up and pull them out one at a time. What's the problem. They make chain and cable plenty long enough. Have them contact me if they want someone to be lowered in the hole ... Danny
I can tell ya right now I would volunteer to get lowered down there tomorrow if I could. I remember in 86' I was working on an off shore oil rig 7 days a week 12 hours a day. We were building it for Chevron. After completion to haul it away they had one of two of the biggest pieces of Eq. I had ever seen. One was one of two cranes that are the largest in the world. The other was a carrier out of japan, also one of the biggest in the world. They lifted that sucker up and put it on the carrier like it was a bag of candy. I think it was in two pieces, but still. Of course they wouldn't need THAT crane, but why would you leave ANY of them down there. Hook them up and pull them out one at a time. What's the problem. They make chain and cable plenty long enough. Have them contact me if they want someone to be lowered in the hole ... Danny

I've sent your username here on CRG to Wendell (director of the NCM); I'm sure he will be signing in here to get you to sign the 'waivers' required...  Smiley   (J/K)..
985  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 13, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
Are we sure this is legit? It really looks like one of my sons threw a couple Matchboxes in a sandbox hole... The more I see the pics, the more sick I get. I saw a story where a museum rep said they might add the cars to a survivor exhibit that shows cars that survived tragic events like this. Consipiriacy theories anyone? Big marketing gimmick to get people to the museum?
No, it's REAL..   TOO real...  still an on-going situation being reported on all over the country..  CNN  ..  USA Today...  etc..
986  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What we did during the Deep Freeze and Great Southern Blizzard of 2014 on: February 13, 2014, 11:47:00 AM
It looked like that here in north Alabama this morning also, Phillip.. but it's warming up nicely, so I think the roads will be clear by mid afternoon.. Smiley 
that's the way snow usually works here..  Smiley
987  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 13, 2014, 11:44:37 AM
Tragedy to say the least.
What's the story of the '62 Corvette?
Why is this one here?
The '62 was donated to the Museum by the 'only owner it ever had'.   The previous owner (before the NCM) bought it new while in high school, using money he'd earned..  Had it all those years, then wanted it to be preserved somewhere it could be enjoyed by many; it was said he would never drive it in the rain while he owned it, and if he had it out on the road, was constantly observing the weather, so he could dash home before any bad weather (ie. rain) happened.. Smiley   Unfortunate for that car.. and I'm hoping it can be saved and restored (for the original owner's sake)...
988  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 13, 2014, 09:32:54 AM
Jeez! That video is hard to watch. Does anyone really believe they can retrieve any of those cars? Or, will it just be a grave site with a memorial??   Embarrassed

I'm told that the Kentucky EPA prohibits leaving them in there due to the gas/oil in them (although I'm not sure that the lowest ones could be retrieved.. and they may determine that it's too dangerous to hook onto them to retrieve them).  Personally I hope they find a means to get the top ones out, and hopefully, if safety isn't an issue, then retrieve them all to be restored.  The only means I can conceive of how to retrieve them would be to disassemble a portion of the yellow dome, and use a crane to hook them and lift them out.   If they were mine, I'd sure go down there and hook them up (with appropriate safety cable/harnesses).. Smiley
989  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Vintage Mark Donahue poster... get em while there hot! on: February 12, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
The car pictured on that poster appears to be an orange/black version.... no wonder he'd won 3 straight..!  Smiley
Sorry to inform you that it is actually Sunoco Blue.   Smiley
Paul

You apparently have never had opportunity to view the '72 B' on the PNT line on the original car's trim plate??   Smiley

It was as if in a dream, I asked Mark.. 'Why did you change the color from the beautiful powerful orange and black to the blue / yellow color?"
he answered "Well, it's like this.  I loved the orange/black, even drove that color Z28 on the street myself, but Roger believed if we left it orange and black, we'd win all the races by such a large margin, the interest in the series would decrease, along with the purses and sponsorships, so he wanted a slower color"; personally, I hated it .. I wanted to win them all!"

990  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Vintage Mark Donahue poster... get em while there hot! on: February 12, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
The car pictured on that poster appears to be an orange/black version.... no wonder he'd won 3 straight..!  Smiley
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