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61  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2014 camaro nationals on: June 25, 2014, 03:20:07 PM
It was a great turn out!!  With the weather iffy all the cars got in and out of the building without issue.  My second trip netted a score of 97.1 or 4855 points out of 5000.  A lot is owed to Bob Harris, Larry Christensen, Brad Mcadam and Jerry Macneish.  They all helped me over this past year to bring the car to this point.  I will post some pictures of the car at the show shortly.  I like the fact that they were very clear on how certain things should be on this car (1969 Z-28 LA car lemans blue)  It seems that all the discussion and research has clarified just how this car came from LA plant in April 1969

Congratulations Scott!  
Your car is beautiful, and I know you worked hard to get the score up to GOLD..  and succeeded...  Smiley
62  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 24, 2014, 04:23:27 PM
Jerry, thanks for asking the question. Also, enjoyed talking to you at Nationals. They are going by the photo in Jerry MacNeish's book on page 5 and 45 which show it on the middle slat. Thanks, Fred

if you use JM's 4th edition, pg 45 shows frontal photos of the std and RS grills for a Z28.  Look at the placement of the Z28 emblems relative to the LHS stripe..   they are NOT placed the same.    I don't know what is correct for Z28/RS cars, and perhaps no one does... since there is not factory documentation that I've seen, and most everyone who has an RS is confused about it...
63  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealership Memorabilia & Dealership Info on: June 24, 2014, 08:09:05 AM
I got this in the mail today.  From the Capitol chevrolet in Austin TX.  It used to have studs on the back but were broken off & adhesive applied.  This is just another piece to the puzzle on the 68.  Very happy



Did the dealership you called send that to you Darrel?  OR did you find it elsewhere?    Regardless it looks neat, and will enhance your car.. Smiley
64  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N629232 M21 Muncie Transmission P9C26B on: June 24, 2014, 08:01:39 AM
Well...  I have been gradually accepting the label of 'Hoarder' that my wife calls me...  and now..based on this last post, I suppose I have to begin accepting 'Long Time Hoarder' as a more descriptive label, since I've got parts I've never used that I obtained long ago.. ie. a '68 Muncie that I bought in '71, etc..  Smiley...  .. but actually the 70s were a great time for collecting 60's and 70's parts... Smiley
65  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Frederick Nationals ... on: June 23, 2014, 06:09:52 PM
It's weird that I missed DuskBlue's air cleaner seal, as that is a pet peeve of mine.  In fact I helped a fella out in the show field correct his when I noticed it upside down and inside out..  which is the way that the seal on DuskBlue's car appears to me.   When the seals are on improperly as that appears to be, the seal doesn't touch the hood usually.

To correct that you have to remove the seal from the top metal cover, then turn it 'inside out' (which probably will take two people), flip it over so that the little lip which is on the top of your seals currently, will grip perfectly around the lip of the metal top plate... and your seal will then we correctly placed.   I'm embarrassed that I didn't notice this on Mike's car....  I suppose I was just running along taking photos at that point, Or I was distracted while snapping that one... ?..   Sad

I'm glad you enjoyed the photos.. Smiley
66  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Frederick Nationals ... on: June 23, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
The placard said that it was the only documented X11 Z28... and it also had the original DZ engine which was a rare 'M date coded' block.    When I first saw this plaque and read it at last year's nationals, I was very dubious on all that as it conflicted with what I believed to be 'correct', but later I had opportunity to talk with him at great length (hours), and see his original photos and documentation from when he bought the car 20+ yrs before, and I became a believer.  It's interesting to conjecture how a body initially coded by Fisher as an X11 car, came to be completed as a Z28 by Norwood assembly... Smiley    The owner, Al Krebs, owns a body and paint shop business in NJ (K&H Automotive), and is a great guy to talk to (as is his wife who has been there with him both years).   and his car is beautiful;  a Nov '69 built car, that also has some of the late year components on it, as does mine.
Here's a better view of his info board....  He also has the original window sticker... Smiley
67  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: June 23, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
His post on TC was sorta confusing as to which one he believed to be correct; his first photo was the one with the 'internally threaded' compression fitting and the last two photos he posted showed an externally threaded compression fitting.  
Steve:  You're saying that you agree with Dave that his 'first photo' shows the correct 'internally threaded' compression fitting?

Just to add some 'brightness' to this thread, it seems to be a great place to follow thru on my promise to Steve S. (PaceMe) to post his photo here for all to see.. Smiley     Here he's shown posed with a very original (I think?).. '67 little old lady owned, one owner, original, never-smoked-in, but slightly-dusty SSRS...  oh.. and I should add 'back yard find' to make this more interesting to the barn find folks.. Smiley

PS.   It was great meeting you at Carlisle (finally) and getting to discuss some of this stuff personally, and thanks for the loaner badge.. Smiley ..    Also great to meet with Chick, TMR Eddie Sells, Skip Locaste?, Tom Flanagan (a great '69 yellow-blk Z28), and a few more whose names are escaping me right now while at Carlisle.
68  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Frederick Nationals ... on: June 23, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
Sorry DW....   Sad  ..  that was it from me on '68...

69  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 23, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
I recall from when I purchased my 69 Z28/RS in 1976, the emblem location 'didn't look right' to me, and I moved it..  I was basing that decision on the location of the emblem on my '68 Z28 (non RS) car I'd traded for the '69.. but I had no doc/manual to go by..   it was purely by 'look' to me, but I'd been around original Z28's since 1968, but not many RS models.

I *think* the various locations of the Z28 emblem on an RS grill comes from the fact that the RS grill 'seems more narrow' than the std grill to the eye, and maybe the 'black color' of it?, and the factory assembly manual instructions shows the 'std' grill, and doesn't address the RS grill location...


FYI 68's didnt have Z emblems in the grill. Tongue

you're right DW.. Smiley   I typed too fast and had a brain fart.. Smiley   

To clarify... " I was basing my conclusion that my RS Z28 grill emblem placement as being 'wrong' on being around MANY non-RS 69 Z28's in the past... Smiley   "

Just giving you a hard time..   Grin

No hard time taken.  I appreciate your correcting my post...  (but you should know that it could turn into an almost full time job!).. Smiley
70  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67 RS SS L78 on: June 23, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
that's a great looking car.... Smiley
71  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 23, 2014, 01:03:32 PM
I recall from when I purchased my 69 Z28/RS in 1976, the emblem location 'didn't look right' to me, and I moved it..  I was basing that decision on the location of the emblem on my '68 Z28 (non RS) car I'd traded for the '69.. but I had no doc/manual to go by..   it was purely by 'look' to me, but I'd been around original Z28's since 1968, but not many RS models.

I *think* the various locations of the Z28 emblem on an RS grill comes from the fact that the RS grill 'seems more narrow' than the std grill to the eye, and maybe the 'black color' of it?, and the factory assembly manual instructions shows the 'std' grill, and doesn't address the RS grill location...


FYI 68's didnt have Z emblems in the grill. Tongue

you're right DW.. Smiley   I typed too fast and had a brain fart.. Smiley   

To clarify... " I was basing my conclusion that my RS Z28 grill emblem placement as being 'wrong' on being around MANY non-RS 69 Z28's in the past... Smiley   "
72  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original Black Primer Underside of Body 69 Z/28's on: June 23, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
John,

Thank you very much.. Smiley

I'd read your description previously, but I guess I didn't associate that phosphating process described with the 'hard black' coating on the bottom of my floor... It's amazing that it lasted so well so long if that's what it is..

Was the full floor bottom 'primed' in the priming booth?  or only the top and sides...?   Large portions of my floor only show the 'black' (apparently phosphate coating from what you guys are explaining to me).. Smiley

Gary
73  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 23, 2014, 11:20:41 AM
I recall from when I purchased my 69 Z28/RS in 1976, the emblem location 'didn't look right' to me, and I moved it..  I was basing that decision on the location of the emblem on my '68 Z28 (non RS) car I'd traded for the '69.. but I had no doc/manual to go by..   it was purely by 'look' to me, but I'd been around original Z28's since 1968, but not many RS models.

I *think* the various locations of the Z28 emblem on an RS grill comes from the fact that the RS grill 'seems more narrow' than the std grill to the eye, and maybe the 'black color' of it?, and the factory assembly manual instructions shows the 'std' grill, and doesn't address the RS grill location...
74  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Frederick Nationals ... on: June 23, 2014, 11:16:26 AM
396/375 engine compartment and '70 LT1 engine compartments....
75  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Frederick Nationals ... on: June 23, 2014, 11:14:23 AM
a few more photos from Frederick...
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