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46  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: COST OF BUYING CARS WITH OR WITHOUT RUST on: December 06, 2014, 12:05:30 AM
There's an old rule that is difficult to deny when it comes to cars..  ie.   BUY THE BEST CAR YOU CAN AFFORD, You'll be $$ ahead in the end.

That doesn't necessarily mean to buy a 'restored' car.  I've never purchased a restored car for the reasons mentioned below.  I don't even like buying a car that has been repainted, as so much can be 'hidden' under paint and trim.  I want to see the best metal.. unrusted..  either undamaged, or with damage easily observed and known fixable.  The drivetrain (to me, being a Chevy guy) is lower on the priority list than having good frame and body, next is interior, and last is 'engine'.. (Chevy SB V8's are easily rebuilt or cheaply purchased).   Of course when you can find a totally original, unmolested and unrestored car that is complete...  you are WAY ahead.   
47  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: rolling chassis? on: December 05, 2014, 11:52:30 PM
there are probably a dozen different businesses whose business is adapting late model Independent Corvette suspensions into all types of car bodies.  I'm sure some of these companies do this for 1st gen Camaros...  (C4 Corvette chassis have been predominant with their standard front eng/trans, but many are doing this also for C5 and C6 suspensions which utilize the rear trans-axle assemblies.)
48  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Very Rusty Proposition on: December 05, 2014, 11:22:20 AM

I can't believe you drove ANY car with rust holes in the body like this one.   If it was put into a 'derusting' tank, I doubt you'd pull out 300 lbs of good metal!~
The two views I've clipped out here are all I'd need to see to 'Keep on Walking'..  even if it were an original ZL1,  Yenko, X11, Z28, etc...

It would take a totally metal stripped car sitting outside probably 20 yrs here in my area to get THAT rusty... these views are of the top-front of the fender, and the deck lid (not the first areas to rust on these cars)...  I'd not be interested at any price..
49  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: December 05, 2014, 08:40:16 AM
I thought Week 34 would be  22-26 Aug 1966 ,

 but per this calendar:

It would be the week before that (25-29 August) with week 1 beginning with a week having only 1 day (1 Jan) in the new 1966 year.
I suppose it would depend on how that stamper did their 'weeks'....
50  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Very Rusty Proposition on: December 04, 2014, 10:43:10 PM

If you gave me the $$ to do it, I wouldn't touch that car...  Smiley
51  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: December 03, 2014, 11:44:02 PM
Yes Dave.. definitely follow up.. even if you have to take a weekend or take a day or two off and GO THERE to see for yourself.   Track down the past owner.. go to the current owner, do whatever you have to  in order to verify/find out where the block is.   It *might* be buried under the ruins, OR the new owner may have hauled the metal to a salvage yard, OR he may have moved it all to a new location.   If you don't check, you will never know...   GOOD LUCK!...
52  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Example of a fairly accurate ebay ad .. 'ez restoration'... :) on: December 03, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
53  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: December 03, 2014, 01:48:24 PM
Those tower clamps (being as old/rusty as they are), are almost guaranteed to be original.   Clean them thoroughly, then soak them in Evapo-rust or Metal Rescue until the rust is removed and maybe they will be usable.. Smiley
54  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Issue with argent silver wheel paint on: December 03, 2014, 12:11:59 PM
No, it doesn't appear to be argent silver (not the argent silver that is/was used on Rallye wheels), but I'm not familiar with the SS styled wheels or their paint, and maybe there are 'different' argent silvers (depending on the wheel, year, mfg-( yes, even Ford and Chrysler had argent silver wheel colors).

I'd be concerned if I'd thoroughly mixed the paint and it *appeared* more clear than silver.   Had you had the paint awhile?  Did you stir to the bottom to make sure the pigments hadn't settled to the bottom?   Otherwise, I'd go back to the paint provider and ask them to *recheck* their formula and the paint they sold you.
55  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: This Pic got me thinking.. on: December 02, 2014, 12:16:34 PM
Not saying it's the case here, but sometimes the semi flat black will reflect enough light to where it almost appears white in older b/w pictures, especially if a flash was used and depending on angles.  Sort of an optical illusion.

I totally agree with Pete... one cannot always believe what their eyes tell them when it comes to light, color, reflections, etc...  specular reflections can definitely fool your eyes re color/shade.
56  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nice Z28 For Sale on: December 02, 2014, 10:28:41 AM
Are we talking "Percentage with MO/DZ on their blocks"?  or "% with factory original engine/drivetrain" ?? 

There's gotta be a big difference in those two percentages..  Smiley
57  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Reattaching Harrison Radiator Tag on: November 30, 2014, 12:15:03 PM
I haven't dealt with anyone making such tags, but a quick search online yielded this ad....

PS.  your issue with having the original tag (broken) is the BEST possible reason for a reproduction tag (IMO), but unless you are entering the car into concours level judging, it's probably an unnecessary expense.  Casual observers would not likely notice that your radiator tag is missing... Smiley         Just keep the broken tag in your glove compartment or console (to show anyone interested)
58  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nice Z28 For Sale on: November 30, 2014, 12:10:14 PM
I agree with sixt9x33rs ; it DOES seem to be a very nice example for a 45 yr old z28 which hasn't been restored (although one could say that the previous repaints, panel replacements, interior replacements could 'constitute' a prior restoration).  It seems to me to be a pretty well kept '69 z28 that has obviously been used pretty regularly thru that time (also might have been stored for a period with it's mileage of 79K).   The block stamp looks good to me; there was nothing stated about any prior engine rebuilds, so it's possible that the engine has not been removed from the car previously.  The trans stamp was too blurry for my old eyes to discern clearly, and the poster says that the rear end has been replaced (12 bolt 4.88:1 rear).. the original (military) owner probably did a bit of street or drag racing (as most of us did back then).   Overall, I'd say it would be a good buy for someone who wants a *mostly factory original* '69 z28 without paying the restored prices... Buy it..  drive it.. preserve it.. and enjoy it.. Smiley

If it's met reserve, someone is going to buy it... there have been 39 prior bids, so you only have to hope you can outbid the others who want it and get it at a reasonable price... (whatever that is these days), but I don't think it's very easy to find such cars these days...
Oh.. and I DO love the color..   I haven't seen one this color combo in a long while...
59  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Reattaching Harrison Radiator Tag on: November 30, 2014, 11:55:41 AM
If you don't want it to fall off and be lost, I'd suggest careful cleaning and use of an appropriate metal ADHESIVE rather than JB weld.   I consider JB weld to be a 'metal filler' as opposed to an adhesive?   Your experience may differ.

An alternative might be to have a new tag made which matches your original tag, attach the new tag per factory specs, and KEEP the original tag in your glove compartment or console?
60  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Bill Thomas /race cars on: November 22, 2014, 11:50:33 PM
Always something interesting. I love these old ads. How some of the innovation forged ahead, and some passed.

I've never seen it mentioned on this site or anything remotely recent pertaining to the Camaro's history. Years ago I read an article stating much of the Camaro's

Just look at the '65 and later Corvair side by side with the first gen Camaro...  the similarity in 'body lines' is obvious...  I think initially, Chevrolet wanted the Corvair to be their 'pony car' entry, but Nadar-crap pooped in that cereal.   
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