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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one, on: December 10, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
Darrell,

I have to agree..   that's a helluva car... L78 with bench seat 4 speed... and looks great...
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Craigslist camaro on: December 10, 2014, 12:05:31 AM
I just noticed the tilt column and red comfort grip wheel, and *behind* the silver/red car in the photo is a hugger orange with white stripes '69.....  Smiley
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 09, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
Nope, no documentation, but I'm sure from what the original and prior owner told me that it is the engine installed for the service work when the car was only a few weeks old.   I was very interested in them finding the protecto-plate, but I never thought to ask the couple I bought it from if they had any of the service paperwork.   The car has only a bit over 40K miles on it.  It's all original except for the CE engine and 2 repaints (both in lacquer - one by the prior owner in the 80's and the last by me in 99).  Original leather seats, many factory options with the 350 hp 4sp and I retrieved the factory build sheet from the gas tank  to verify it all. 

I got the Protecto plate, owners manual and protective sleeve several years later when the prior owners found it and brought it to me..  (like a Christmas day in July).. Smiley
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one, on: December 09, 2014, 06:23:45 PM
80's cars are *ugly*...  Smiley
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 09, 2014, 06:22:48 PM
I have a '69 Corvette which has a dealer installed *(under warranty)* CE engine.

Body Build date M07    7 Aug 1969  (from body plate)
Original engine    V0725HX  (assembled 25Aug1969 - from my Protecto Plate)
Muncie  P9H27 ; differential  AM0722W
Intake and heads dated consistently  (G229)
Car sold new by Royal Chevrolet on 30 Aug 1969  (from Protecto plate)
The original owner told me he street raced practically every night for 2 or 3 weeks, then had engine problems.  Took it back to the dealer for service, and ended up 'trading it for a 427 Corvette'; the service manager replaced the engine under warranty and ended up purchasing the car and owned it for 18 yrs.

The replacement engine installed by Royal Chevrolet Service Department (Huntsville, AL):   CE9B442 9 6    this engine cast date:  I 18 9  (Sept 18, 1969).
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one, on: December 09, 2014, 05:15:30 PM
Well..  if I had to drive a '67 or '68 (and couldn't get hold of a great '69),.. Smiley    I'd probably make it similar to this one... Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvAkUupnKw

(of course, I'd probably need a little of Tim Allen's or Jay Leno's $$ to do it...  Smiley
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Craigslist camaro on: December 09, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
That seems like a decent price even if it's a Z28 'clone'... maybe I'm biased due to the great color, and being in mid Alabama, it's likely that the body/etc has no rust (esp if it's been here all it's life).. - owner says 'great condition'.. but ... how knowledgable is he?
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: pad stamp? on: December 09, 2014, 11:59:05 AM
I totally agree with Danny; what we can see doesn't look bad, but too much paint and not sufficient resolution/detail to ascertain...
If I see factory broach marks, and the stamping is good and consistent with factory marks, then there would not be anything in the stamping to raise issue (but I still want to know *everything* I can find out about the block.. it's cast date, cast no, the heads and other parts on it, if it's running does it 'run correctly' per the app code, etc).. before I'd make a 'buying determination'...
39  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / On Hemmings today... Jerry Titus’ Daytona class-winning Trans-Am Camaro/Fireb on: December 08, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/12/08/jerry-titus-daytona-class-winning-trans-am-pontiac-firebird-heads-to-auction/?refer=news
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original front spoiler for a 69 on: December 08, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
I went to the basement garage and cleaned and checked mine (I bought it from the Chevy dealer in 1976 right after I bought the car).   It had the 'residue' from the paper sticker on the back, but sticker was gone and I didn't see a stamped PN in it.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67-9 Fuel lines on: December 07, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
Are you including '69 in this survey??  or not?  there is a contradiction between the verbiage and the subject line....
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: rolling chassis? on: December 06, 2014, 12:29:13 PM
Here is an option that is close to me... (They are only 20-25 miles from me, but I've never been there.. not yet, but I plan to check them out soon)..

http://www.streetrodgarage.com/camaroandfirebird.aspx

43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Very Rusty Proposition on: December 06, 2014, 12:07:26 PM
Rather than buy/restore such a rusty Camaro, one's time and $$ would be much better spent buying and restoring one of these 'exotics'... (less rust and worth more in the end).. Save your $$ between now and 6 Feb 2015 and head to France for the auction!  Smiley

https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/sixty-classic-cars-unearthed-after-50-years-in-massive-barn-find-201601990.html
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: "Cement" used at rear shock mounts?? on: December 06, 2014, 11:49:07 AM
that sure looks like strip caulk, as in 3M strip caulk (that used to be gray, but now the gray cannot be found, although black is very available).  There are other similar products that are gray or off white if you prefer those colors.  It's intention is to keep out water, and to remain pliable, not to 'cement' in a part but whether GM calls it a 'cement' or not, I do not know.. Smiley.   I do know that Chevrolet cars thru the 50's, 60's, and 70's used it in many places where one part is bolted or screwed to another. It's  ONLY purpose I can see is to be 'pliable', and keep out water...   I use a little almost anywhere I screw something onto a body.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: COST OF BUYING CARS WITH OR WITHOUT RUST on: December 06, 2014, 12:05:30 AM
There's an old rule that is difficult to deny when it comes to cars..  ie.   BUY THE BEST CAR YOU CAN AFFORD, You'll be $$ ahead in the end.

That doesn't necessarily mean to buy a 'restored' car.  I've never purchased a restored car for the reasons mentioned below.  I don't even like buying a car that has been repainted, as so much can be 'hidden' under paint and trim.  I want to see the best metal.. unrusted..  either undamaged, or with damage easily observed and known fixable.  The drivetrain (to me, being a Chevy guy) is lower on the priority list than having good frame and body, next is interior, and last is 'engine'.. (Chevy SB V8's are easily rebuilt or cheaply purchased).   Of course when you can find a totally original, unmolested and unrestored car that is complete...  you are WAY ahead.   
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