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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 15, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
Thats to bad about the economy, and Camaro performers going under. I know Romney would have been more accountable, but it still would have been tough to get the economy humming again. I am interested to see who becomes the front runner to go against Hilary. Think of all the publications that have gone under though, newsweek, and the news papers in general are struggling. Maybe the next candidate can run on a platform of bringing back (the economy)& all the great car publications!

its shameful that it doesn't matter anymore  (about the economy re our elections), but it doesn't..   Less than half the voters *care* about the economy; the majority lives on the largesse of the gov't.. and will continue voting for their 'freebies'...  Sad      we are on a steep downhill slide as a country.... and it sickens me.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 15, 2014, 11:25:44 AM
Hurst Competition/Plus U.S. PAT. NO. 3216274  Shifter with the "3138" stamp.  Anyone know exactly what the 19D52P stands for ?..a date of some sort ?  I tried researching and found different opinions as to what it is.  Huh  and seen this number to be different on about every shifter.  Some with more numbers and some with only 1 letter among the numbers.  A date to me makes no sense as I've seen no consistency in this number/letter system.... unless I'm missing something.

Your shifter was built by Hurst during January of 1969...    Smiley     The code '19D52P' is a manufacturer's serial number that has the month/yr of production coded into the first 2 (or 3) characters.    first number 1 is month (January), 2nd number (9) is for the year..

Ref:   http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11380.msg89790#msg89790

Hey thanks Gary.  So that's good since that falls into place as well.  Do you have any idea on the lever and rod numbers ?

Thanks again  Smiley

I can't provide exact verification of the rods, but I *think* you are probably OK on them (except for the blue wire 'clip'). Smiley     Your rods appear to have similar bends as my rods, although I can't say for sure the middle length rod (and that might be due to the angle of your/my photos)..
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 15, 2014, 11:06:03 AM
Hurst Competition/Plus U.S. PAT. NO. 3216274  Shifter with the "3138" stamp.  Anyone know exactly what the 19D52P stands for ?..a date of some sort ?  I tried researching and found different opinions as to what it is.  Huh  and seen this number to be different on about every shifter.  Some with more numbers and some with only 1 letter among the numbers.  A date to me makes no sense as I've seen no consistency in this number/letter system.... unless I'm missing something.

Your shifter was built by Hurst during January of 1969...    Smiley     The code '19D52P' is a manufacturer's serial number that has the month/yr of production coded into the first 2 (or 3) characters.    first number 1 is month (January), 2nd number (9) is for the year..

Ref:   http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11380.msg89790#msg89790
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 15, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
I have seen rolls of 'Obama wipe' for sale lately you can use in the 'Library'  Grin

Mike

That's probably the only thing carrying his name that might provide any satisfaction......  or thoughts of a job well done..  Smiley
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Swapping a 700R 4 into a 67 on: August 14, 2014, 11:08:06 PM
I agree with Steve..    the 200 is the way to go.. Smiley
I'm in the market for one myself..  for my Nomad..
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 14, 2014, 12:27:05 AM
Since the Fan Clutch was painted orange  Huh  I guess this will be hard to tell if it's the original or not.  Also I didn't see anything stamped other than the word "EATON".  Look at the 4th pic,  "EATON" is stamped into the body.  Could this possibly be a replacement also ?  Not sure what I have here but it looks identical to what an original should look like  Huh

BTW..all those following,  I'm heading back across the state Saturday morning after the tub of other parts I left behind... LIKE 1/2 THE DANG GONE ENGINE !  There was the Alt and brackets, crank pulley, Smog pump set up, Exh Manifolds, Dist., Water pump, pulley and Timing cover.. I believe that's it.  Only want to make this drive once more !

The fan clutch would have had an 'inked' date code and I think also an app code on it from the factory.   You *might* be able to carefully clean off the orange paint and try to retain the ink stamps underneath..?
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: August 13, 2014, 09:35:39 PM
Here is mine close up. The emblem has not been removed by me since I bought the car in 2000. It has 3 repaints on top of original but I don't believe the grill has ever been stripped and repainted, so it may never have been removed but I'm just guessing that.

your emblem is perfectly centered under the stripe, GaryC..     just as most of the others..  Smiley
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: August 13, 2014, 09:32:20 PM
Thanks John... 
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Documentation List Question on: August 13, 2014, 08:07:08 AM
Either the same day, or the day before.. Smiley
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 13, 2014, 08:02:05 AM
Sounds like about a $5000-$6000 box of parts you left behind...  Smiley
Yeah...UGH ! aggravated at myself cause that's an 8 hour day if I gotta go back for them.  My fault, so be it.   Sad

I'd spend that 8 hr day as soon as possible..   Smiley
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 12, 2014, 11:45:25 PM
Sounds like about a $5000-$6000 box of parts you left behind...  Smiley
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1111170 Dist. Stamp on: August 12, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
Some suggestions for 'resizing an image file size', and retain as much resolution as possible:

1) First use Paint or some other software to 'clip out' just the portion of the image you need to preserve.   that provides a near- linear reduction in image file size for the area you clip out.  Do not reduce the resolution during this step.

2)  Use a product like 'Light Image Resizer' to reduce the file size.   This product will use some intelligent algorithms to reduce the JPG file size while retaining a high degree of the image quality/resolution.   you can run it over and over with different % values until the file size is where you need it to be.  You'll be amazed at how much resolution is retained.

PS.  you can download a free copy of Light Image Resizer for your own use, but you will want to purchase it after you use it awhile. Smiley

Gary
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: August 12, 2014, 09:49:55 PM
Don't forget starting April 19th Norwood was building Firebirds as well as Camaros, that probably where the other 250 cars per day went.

Mark,  if the 912/day included Firebirds, then that would explain the qty discrepancy; that thought occurred to me after John's previous post, but I had no Firebird information.

Does anyone have any idea how Norwood coordinated production of Camaros and Firebirds simultaneously?  ie..  intermixed..  or run firebirds for a day or more then Camaros??  or?   If we have no factual information for how that was done, then the uniform distribution of Camaro builds across the production days of the month would still provide the best estimation for a specific production date.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 11, 2014, 10:57:29 PM
Darrell,

Nice job so far...   Smiley   just remember....  clean and preserve..  don't destroy or coverup..  Smiley

1) I'm glad you were able to bring out the VIN on the block; I thought you'd be able to with the engine out of the car.
2) Great job on the drive shaft...  I wish I'd taken as much car with mine...  Sad
3) The MC has a cast date (Julian date) on the opposite side from the 'xxxx309' PN.. see how closely that jives with the mid March dates of your other parts..  The booster also has a Julian date on the opposite side of the tab from the 9204 stamp.
4)  Don't worry about the bolt markings for bolts that are still installed; just remember to bag/detail label them when you remove them for cleaning.  Lots of bolt mfgs were used, but it will give you a great deal of satisfaction to be able to put them back in the same locations they came from.. Smiley

For removing rust - Evaporust and/or Metal Rescue..  for preserving bare metal parts - Boeshield (avail thru Sears)..

Gary
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: August 11, 2014, 02:36:04 PM
I tried to match the emblem on John Z's Car. See his attached pic.

I see what you mean about centered on the stripe from the pic of the orange Z above. Are the standard and RS grilles in the same relationship as far as the square openings are concerned? My striping and the orange Z's appear to be close to the same?

I don't have two grills (RS and non RS) to compare, but I'm beginning to think the square opening aren't the same (ie. the egg crate openings have different dimensions between the two grills).     I think if you go back to 'centering under the stripe'..   you'd be best off.    Isn't JohnZ's emblem centered under his stripe?
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