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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Some Photos from Carlisle Solid Lifter Display on: June 30, 2014, 09:21:59 AM
Well..   only two reasons I can think of...

1) Restoring one car is a different situation than when the factory was building 90 cars per hr.   Whereas it would have been time consuming at Norwood/VN to 'tape off for nice sharp lines'..  in restoration, it's probably *faster* to do the tape line than to try to 'replicate' what the factory did.

2) 'overspray is not 'pretty'...  and lots of restorers and/or owners would prefer to have their tape lines nice and sharp even though it's not exactly how it was done in the factory.

It depends on your goal and what you want.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Chicken or the Egg? on: June 30, 2014, 08:49:25 AM
Man..  you dredged up an old argument there..  Smiley
and I'm not changing my mind..  it's a Z28 (with RS)..  thus Z28/RS..  Smiley
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Some Photos from Carlisle Solid Lifter Display on: June 30, 2014, 08:25:40 AM
There was also a '69 Corvette in the building.. sporting a 435 hp, triple carb'ed 427 engine... Smiley
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Some Photos from Carlisle Solid Lifter Display on: June 30, 2014, 08:23:21 AM
Sitting next to Eddie Sells car was a beautiful frost green '69 Z28 (owned by Frank Arone I believe?)..
The second photo is of the engine compartment of the Rallye Green Yenko sitting in front of the door of the building...
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Some Photos from Carlisle Solid Lifter Display on: June 30, 2014, 08:18:30 AM
Unless I've forgotten already.. Smiley..  I don't recall seeing a lot of photos from the Carlisle Solid Lifter Display... Smiley

Needless to say, TMR (Eddie's) orange/black Z28 got my eye almost as soon as I entered the building..  that's Eddie with his back turned, wearing his CRG shirt talking to Frank Arone and Eddie's wife facing the camera..
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2014 Z28s at Frederick... on: June 30, 2014, 08:02:37 AM
Berger Sticker Shock?  Smiley

37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2014 Z28s at Frederick... on: June 30, 2014, 08:00:59 AM
A couple more photos..  Smiley   The Go and Whoa departments.... Smiley

38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 2014 Z28s at Frederick... on: June 30, 2014, 07:59:03 AM
The Camaros at Frederick were not limited to 'old ones'....  Smiley     

We also had a good look at a couple of the new 2014 Z28's while there.  The white one was owned by Charles Lingenfelter (brother of John btw), who had the red/red '67 Z28 going thru judging.  Charles told me that he had owned it 23 hrs when I talked to him briefly.. Smiley
The darker one was owned by Larry Christianson.  I understood he had the stripes painted 'custom' to get that color combo.. List price on the window sticker was $76K... so save your pennies fellas.. Smiley
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do You Still Have Your First Car? on: June 28, 2014, 07:59:34 AM
No, don't have it. Growing up in Atlanta my first car was a 64 GTO 4 speed at 16. Bought it off a high school friend with a spun bearing for $125.00 in 1969. Had a mechanic friend fix it while I was pumping gas at the local Chevron across from my parents house during the summer. Got it all fixed up and got into a boat load of trouble with it and my dad took the keys and had the car shredded into little tiny pieces while I watched. My dad managed an aluminum plant and this car shredding plant for Max and Bobby London Inc, some old Navy friends. After seeing that my new job was running a pedestal crane 60 feet in the air dropping cars into that shredder. I was 17 that summer. Oh, I had one car explode when someone below didn't tell me the gas tank was still in it. What a bang. 

OMG..   shredded?  literally?   '64 GTO was one of my favorite cars of the mid-60's...  a HS classmate had one, and  I will remember forever his passing the school bus (that I was riding home in) .. full bore, cutouts open...  I didn't care for that fella, but I loved his car.. Smiley
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2014 camaro nationals on: June 28, 2014, 07:39:35 AM
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 Congrats on the score.    What did the judges decide on the trim rings?
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As Mike asked, what did the judges decide on the trim rings?

Apparently Scott is still celebrating his gold.. Smiley     but I know a lot of us are interested in what the judges are doing re the trim rings... and I don't have the bottom line answer either, but what I heard (second or third hand) before we left is that 'the judges are accepting 'both' kinds'...   not sure exactly what this means, other than the judges (as a team) aren't certain what the cars left the factory with.

IMO, this issue needs to be clarified, with photos of each kind (because there's a 3rd kind that is clearly not original - at least to me).  That 3rd kind with the four 'claws', not clips, I *think* may have been what Scott had on his car in 2013.   I think the two kinds they are currently accepting are the 4 clips (on the outer edge of the rings), and the continuous 'finger' type, but it would sure we good if someone who has better information on what the judges determination was ... would speak up with some details and why they are accepting the two kinds right now..?

My personal opinion is that the factory only used the 4-clip (which clips to the outer rim edge) thru 1969 - which I'm confident is what my Z28 came with, and sometime in '70 or later began using the finger style (my '77 MC had the finger style).
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles on: June 27, 2014, 09:37:25 PM
In my humble opinion, that would not be unusual.  There is almost always some overlap.

For example, on the weekend I saw Muncie M20 assembled in August of 1969, with a 1970 VIN on it (I think for a Buick).  It had the 660 case but with both a drain and a fill plug - and used the 1970 style plugs. 

How is that unusual Bryon?   An August '69 Muncie trans for a Buick would be going into a '70 model Buick wouldn't it?   Typically model changeover during those days was July for the transition, and by late July and August they are building for the new model year..
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles on: June 27, 2014, 09:49:52 AM
Actually Jims69 will bracket it better, his car is about 197 after mine and his has the C. I sent him a message hopefully he can post the casting and date on his.

Wow..   197 cars is like a few hours, unless it's the end of one day/beginning of the next day production, OR with it being a new thing (stamping the C) in the differential plant, perhaps they just weren't consistent yet..?
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles on: June 27, 2014, 09:03:22 AM
Bullitt's 0815, without the C (but with the 341 rear), and Sarge's WITH the C, stamped 0820..  pretty well brackets the change to use of the 'C' (1970 format) to between the dates of 15 August and 20August 1969.   Bullitt's diff is the later casting number, but without the 'C', so that seems to imply that the two changes (C) and 341 casting, did not occurr simultaneously...

The rear end casting, and use of the 'C' in front of the diff app stamp are two more items to add to our list of intended 1970 changes that were applied to 'late 1969 extended production of Camaros and Corvettes.   I think it would be a good research report to itemize all the things that 'changed', as well as best known dates of change, for late production, and would be useful in the generation of an 'ultimate' Restoration and judging reference manual for Camaros.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: June 26, 2014, 03:37:31 PM
His post on TC was sorta confusing as to which one he believed to be correct; his first photo was the one with the 'internally threaded' compression fitting and the last two photos he posted showed an externally threaded compression fitting.   
Steve:  You're saying that you agree with Dave that his 'first photo' shows the correct 'internally threaded' compression fitting?

Gary W,
I'm sorry that my post / pictures on TC #1 confused you with my verbage or which one I believed to be correct. The correct fitting is the one I posted with both male ends and all those pictures are of the same fitting with and without the oil line cap screwed on.  What I was trying to say or write should have read:  There has been some discussion reference the original oil line brass fitting. The one that keeps being discussed with the female end that is believed to be correct, but isn't is usally seen on early 60's vehicle.  All the oil line fitting that I have seen on a 69 Z28 is the one that I have pictured. Even my L48 Z11 Car has this fitting also and it original to the car. Maybe both styles were used, but I never seen that fitting used and a 69 Camaro Gauge Package Car".   


No problem man...  besides being easily confused, I can't see or hear very well either..  Smiley     when I looked at those three photos, the first one (with the cap on) seems like the other type of fitting, rather than the same fitting with a cap on it...   I can see now that you showed the assembled unit first, then the broken down parts...  Sorry about my confusion!  Smiley
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Purpose of this bracket?? on: June 26, 2014, 11:50:36 AM
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To clarify Gary, single exhaust usage only, but ALL cars got it regardless.

Hmmm...just checked my '69 Van Nuys Built Z and no bracket.  Original floor pans.  No sign it was removed.   Sure all cars go it?   I don't have a good picture of that area, but can post later.



Your car has been restored, hasn't it Hans?  Perhaps it was removed as 'unnecessary' during that process?   OR perhaps they weren't consistent with putting it on?  Bryan302 told me this morning he didn't find it on his '69 either...

Maybe we need another 'research' activity to determine what percentage (or time of year?) taht dual exhaust cars got that bracket mounted to the body....?
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