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2296  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: building a garage on: December 31, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
that's the 'garage ambiance' illumination... Smiley
2297  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Nickey Cragar center hubs on: December 31, 2012, 05:12:26 PM
I think I have some magazines from '67-69 which addressed those cars and detailed articles on the options (which was basically anything you wanted to pay for as I recall)..  Smiley

PS.  Is there any market for a few thousand auto magazines from the mid-late sixties til today....    PHR, HR, CC, CHP, Muscle Car, etc....?   I'm going to get submitted to that 'hoarder' show if I can't get rid of these things, and I can't stomach trashing them.  I have them grouped/boxed by month/year and magazine...

2298  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Camaro Tilt column on: December 31, 2012, 01:11:39 PM
When the ignition switch was added to the column they were designed to fit a number of models. Therefore most of the "69 Camaro" tilt columns on the market weren't born there. The main difference as I recall is the configuration of the reverse lock arm at the bottom.

If you buy one make sure the lower flange is included. On the standard column the flange is part of the steering shaft. On a tilt the shaft is splined for a separate forged flange, tilt only.

Your post above is from 7 yrs ago, but I've a question concerning your comment about 'splined vs non-splined' flange on tilt vs non-tilt columns.    I've got my original car partially disassembled for cleaning/preservation/maintenance, and I see that my original NON-tilt column does have a splined shaft for the coupler flange (as does the tilt column that I want to install in it's place).   The purpose of my question is to confirm that I interpreted your comment correctly?  and if your position has changed sinc 2005?   (My car was a very late '69, so maybe they changed them all to being splined later in the year?)..
Gary / 69Z28-RS
2299  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28?? on: December 29, 2012, 02:43:33 PM
Thanks.  Why does everyone want me to give them my car??  Smiley

I have no intention of using reproduction parts (except for some rubber items that need replacement - ie. body mounts, hoses).
I like the color combination too (that was the color of the GM Camaro Z28 advertisements of 1969!).. but the first time I looked at the car, and saw the orange/black interior.. I was a bit turned off...  but I came around once I realized how rare a coupe was with the org/blk, plus the number of options this car had (cowl hood, gauges/tach, remote mirror, all tinted glass, RS, etc).  The engine needed rebuilding when I bought it, so I actually got a couple hundred boot by trading a strong running, but 'base' '68 Z28..

2300  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28?? on: December 29, 2012, 02:12:24 AM
Man I would love to see pics of your car.
Charley, it doesn't look like much now it's been sitting so long.   Attached below is a photo from sometime in the 80's when I pushed the car out of the basement garage to wash the dust/dirt off.  (I haven't driven it since Dec of 1980)
The second photo is from oct 2007, I'd moved and now the car is sitting in a different basement garage.  The front part of the hood had had prior 'bondo' for a softball dent' and was cracking, so I smeared paint over it and in the cracks.. Smiley
The last two photos are from Oct 2008; I'd removed the hood and had stripped the bondo from it (it will need at least the front portion repainted).   Left front and right front views are shown when I pushed the car out for another 'washing'.. Smiley
Those are the last photos I have with the car 'more of less whole' as I've been removing parts and cleaning for reinstallation since then (as I've had time)...  I do have lots of 'detailed and parts' photos if anyone has any desire to see them...
2301  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28?? on: December 28, 2012, 02:48:08 PM
Thanks for the information guys!   I'll followup with the contacts mentioned. 
I don't have a lot of photos, but I think I have an 'older' photo from the 80's (pushed out of the garage).. Smiley  and a more recent photo inside my newer garage.  I'll post those but soon (hopefully) I'll have it all back together and ready for more photos.   I'm hoping to take it to the Camaro nationals some year soon for judging.. Smiley

2302  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28?? on: December 28, 2012, 11:20:12 AM
I've owned my '69 Z28/RS since 1976.   it's an original car, 95% complete (missing the smog).  It's unrestored, and I want to retain it's unrestored status, although I am doing some cleanup and *preserving* in getting it back on the road (it's been stored in my garage for 32 yrs).   I have new ceramic coated headers which I'd planned to use to replace the rusted out hedmans I removed.  I also have an extremely nice set of '69 exhaust manifolds (removed on day 1 from a friend's '69 Z28) which I *could* use if I wanted to put it back to 'factory configuration'.  My problem:   Since I don't have the smog setup, and know essentially nilch about them, I'm not clear on what is correct, acceptable, or unacceptable.   
The Parts Place (illinois?) has an ebay listing for a smog system supposedly correct for '69 and '70 Z28s.  Combination of original restored and new components for $795 BIN.    They supposedly have 15 such systems.   I'm interested in what you fellas, much more knowledgable than I on smog setups, think about this system.    Should I buy one and put it on my unrestored (but smogless) Z28?   Am I adding 'correctness' if I do so, or am I just adversely impacting the 'unrestored' status of my car?

Gary  / 69Z28-RS
2303  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag on: December 27, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
In looking at those photos, I noticed that the driver side engine mount has one of the attaching bolts coming up from the bottom (with the nut on top);  I recently found that same bolt on my car in the same cirection (opposed to all the others);  Is that the way all the cars were for some reason, OR does it just mean if  the bolt was ever removed, it was easier for the owner/mechanic to reinsert if in that direction???

2304  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: BLOCK CAST DATE VS PAD STAMP DATE on: December 27, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
Henry Ford even tried to buy part of TVA (Wilson Dam in NW Alabama) to generate his own electricity; he thought he had a deal, and bought up property for his workers homes, cut streets paved them, put in sidewalks, elec lines, etc...  then I think Roosevelt nixed the 'dam' deal, and Ford never moved south that area still has the overgrown streets/sidewalks, but no homes...  it's called 'Ford City'...  Smiley
PS.  Ford did build an Aluminum casting plant adjacent to Reynolds metals in that area later, but now it too is closed.

2305  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag on: December 27, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
What's the possibility that Camaro was a Z28?  With the special order paint, Muncie, disk brakes, etc..   it was more than likely a *special model* of some kind.    With that paint code, you could paint the car ANY COLOR you want, and it would be *correct* for judging purposes..  Smiley

Are you going to restore it?  a few body panels..  it would be good as new.  Smiley

2306  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: building a garage on: December 25, 2012, 01:07:31 AM
I agree Danny; I always build my benches so they are chest high when I stand in front of it..  (who sits down and works at a bench?)... Smiley
2307  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: BLOCK CAST DATE VS PAD STAMP DATE on: December 25, 2012, 12:59:27 AM
I have an original '57 BelAir with the block cast date and assembly date the same!    my '69 Z28 302 block was cast on 26 august.. and assembled on 27 August...    Smiley

2308  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 346 67-68 master cylinder cover on: December 24, 2012, 01:10:52 AM
the 1969 'US' stamped master cylinders had a date code (julian) cast into the side of the MC opposite the PN.  I'd be surprised if all the D-R MC weren't similarly cast.

2309  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Chambered Exhaust Option - 69 Z on: December 23, 2012, 12:13:18 PM
The indicated redlines are higher on the solid lifter engines, and the 'actual' redlines are higher yet.. Smiley..   So if you are asking if they *sound differently* at redline...   yes..  Smiley .. 
2310  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Rear Wheel Well Plugs - Before or After Undercoating? on: December 23, 2012, 12:09:44 PM
If the car had been well cared for (which lots of early Z28's were ; they are like Corvettes, they were/are either driven very hard, or babied!).. Smiley; anyway, if they were well cared for by a 'car nut', it is possible that the owner removed the plug to ensure there was no trash trapped (which would cause rust with moisture), and to have cleaned the plugs prior to re-installing...  and Yes, I've done things like that before.. Smiley

It's also possible that the undercoating wasn't done consistently by every person who ever did the job....  (although the undercoating on all my fenderwells seems to be very consistent and per a precise pattern....

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