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2176  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Barn Find on: August 17, 2012, 07:25:54 AM
It also looked TOO nice to be an 'old barn car'...   and there were no 'Rallye Sport' badges on the fenders... as someone pointed out, which tells me it might have gotten an 'RS' makeover maybe sometime the last few years..  and WHY was it sitting in an old barn, covered in dust?     Could it have been HIDDEN in there?  for some reason?     It will be interesting if the title comes back clear... for the new owners (and I noticed it sill had the 'barn find' tag on it after the cleaning.. so maybe they haven't done that as of the photos)..   Does anyone recognize what state that tag is from?
2177  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rare find '69 Z28 on: August 16, 2012, 04:41:34 PM
That spoiler looks more like a '70 Boss 302 spoiler...?
2178  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z10 on Ebay on: August 16, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
the current owner says the engine numbers, including VIN, match..   he says entire drivetrain (engine, trans, rear) are all factory original and *match*..  I've asked for the numbers; he will call me back.   He says the ONLY thing not original or missing is the air cleaner (has a chrome a/c on it.   that has rusted it's been on it so long)..  He says the rust came from the car being stored so long (inside a garage/shed, but with carpet piled over it..  the carpet held moisture against those rusted areas..    He says he paid $25K 2 yrs ago.... and has done nothing but store it and remove the engine/trans since...
2179  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Engine painting poll on: August 16, 2012, 02:13:06 PM
JohnZ wrote:
"Have your buddy read my "1st Generation Camaro Assembly Process" report if he doesn't believe how the body and sheet metal were painted; the Fisher Body/Car Division assembly plants painted the body and front sheet metal in different plants for 50 years.  "

Good example and case in point:   I own 55 and '57 Nomads, both assembled in the Atlanta, GA assembly plant.   but ALL Nomad bodies were build in Cleveland ('55 thru '57 at least).   The Cleveland fisher body plant delivered the bodies (from firewalll back) painted and complete with interior in place,  in Atlanta (and other assembly plants as far away as LA), the bodies were placed on the chassis along with engines and drivetrain, front sheet metal etc..  so in these (and lots of cases) the front clips were painted not only in different (adjacent plants) but also in different STATES with a train ride in between...  Smiley

Gary / 69Z28-RS
2180  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z10 on Ebay on: August 16, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
The ad says that the floors are great....  so are the rear fenders around the wheel well, and probably the area around the rear glass the major rust areas on such a car?   Are repair panels available for those areas?...  What do you guys think this car is worth? 
2181  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bittersweet on: August 16, 2012, 01:16:18 PM
... and you will learn to love driving the Corvette.... looking past those big fender bulges as you drive down the road...  Smiley
that should help to ease the pain of the Camaro sale..  and you still have the ultimate Camaro to help with that as well!
Gary / 69Z28-RS
2182  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 crossmember to subframe mounting hardware on: August 13, 2012, 10:50:44 AM
"If you have 68,69 original hardware please give description so others with those years may benefit.
Thanks, Bob"

OK-for 1969:  from my original '69 Z28: 
Bolt:  3/8" thread, 1-1/4" long, 1/8" unthreaded shank under bolt head which has an 'A' centered with 6 has marks (grade 8?).
lock washer:  standard appearing 3/8" split lock washer
large thick washer:   1" dia, 1/8 thick 3/8 flat washer
nut:   I forgot to look at this, but think it's 5/8 or 11/16 std hex nut...

Gary / 69Z28-RS
2183  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Paint gun....choosing the right one. on: August 07, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Dave,

Besides having HP and PSI confused, I think you may be 'over thinking' this problem..  Smiley     I'd think with any HVLP gun, you could spray this primer or just about any paint) with your compressor..   
2184  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 z28 carb.insulater on: August 03, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
they do have a GM part number, and I recall seeing them around that time frame, but not on '69's..

Gary
2185  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: fw wheels abd trim rings on: July 29, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
If there was a *recall*.. I'd love to see some documentation!    GM sold the 4 clips throughout the entire *life* of the Rallye wheels (on Corvettes thru '77), and the Corvette trims were larger / heavier than the smaller trims for the 6 or 7 inch wheels, and had the SAME four clips...  let's see some info on such a recall .. if there was one...
2186  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: trim tag build month on: July 28, 2012, 08:22:38 AM
I think '63 was the first year for the aluminum powerglide; I know for fact the '64 PG was aluminum; as I recall removing one from a '64 Impala convertible I once owned; then installed the 283 engine a Henry J, and sold the PG...
2187  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 4 clip trim ring on: July 26, 2012, 12:36:32 AM
Lynn,

I agree. . THAT is the only issue with the 4 clips, and I suspect that and cost might be why GM changed their design, .. the 4 clip style uses a steel insert with the four clips, inside the wrapped stainless trim, whereas the later design was formed completely from SS...

Gary
2188  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 4 clip trim ring on: July 24, 2012, 11:36:49 PM
No Jon,  all I've ever ran are the 4 clip trim rings, and neither have I had one come off..  NOR am I aware of anyone who had one come off.   The first I've heard of this *problem* is in the thread here recently.   I'd suspect the 'finger type' to be more susceptible to coming off than the 4 clip type..

Gary
2189  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: fw wheels abd trim rings on: July 23, 2012, 07:35:18 AM
I believe any of the GM 15" trim rings will fit.   The trim rings used on Monte Carlos from '70 thru '77 actually have the same appearance, although the retention method is diffeerent...

Gary / 69Z28-RS
2190  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Exhaust hangers - design/manufacturing qustion on: July 20, 2012, 12:17:18 AM
Bulllitt man..  Smiley,

I went to the garage at midnight and checked for you.    My two long hangars only had the two diagonal holes.  They are either the originals, OR I replaced them witih GM parts around 1975 (too long ago, and I don't really remember but I did buy new muffler and pipes from GM at that time; the car hasn't been out of my garage since 1980, although I'm now in the process of disassembling and cleaning the parts for reassembly (which is why it's a bit easier to check these).   My parts each have an 'Lo' on them (on the long metal strap portion), and a small '5' on the part that clamps to the pipe.   One of them still had a piece of the paper PN on it.  with the number 930087' (all I could read - it might should have a 3 in front of it?)..

the other two hangars actually had stamped GM part numbers on them.   3964858  and 3965633,  with an M and 3 also stamped.  Some of them had rubber which had 'white sections' in it (from the tires I suppose)..

Gary  / 69Z28-RS
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