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2176  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Camaro passenger door mirror location on: December 08, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
IMO, having two mirrors NOT located in the same relative locations on the doors would look funky too.   I've been under the impression that there wre no passenger side mirrors available (from the factory) in '69....   True or not?    Am I correct in assuming that any mirror mounted to the passenger door by a dealer would have been the LH mirror just mounted on the RH side?
2177  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z-28 CRANK on: December 08, 2011, 12:20:31 PM
Is the '68 'MO' motor crank the same PN?
2178  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clue It Was GM employee car new on: December 02, 2011, 11:44:58 AM
I really doubt anyone other than perhaps a plant manager or someone very high in mgt, could implement something like that... especially for a 'cavalier'....  Smiley.
I've heard of examples of 'special built' cars, assembled on the line;  the most famous I know of is the 50 Millionth GM car (a selected '55 Chevy BelAir HT which was painted 'gold' color, and also had many parts actually plated in gold (even the shocks, etc were gold plated).  There was also the special Corvette built for Zora Duntov's retirement, and special cars for Bill Mitchell...  but for all those 'special car', the planning had all the parts available on the line at the right place and right time (and we can imagine the $cost of doing something like that)..

It would be very interesting to hear any stories John Z might have to shed more light on such circumstances .  Smiley
2179  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Ebay BBC SS/RS car LOS cowl tag on: November 29, 2011, 02:02:33 PM
so for the example provided, November 1966, 11A car with A638...

"It also explains the 282, 282 nd. body started that day.   My 11A LOS built Coupe has
A 638, meaning it was built on the first day of Nov. in 66, it was the 638 th. Body started on that day.(all Models)"

Since the 1st of November is a Tuesday, the first day of that work week was actually the 31October.   Does the A638 actually refer to the 638th car on Tuesday?  or the 638th car of Monday (31Oct)Huh   Basically the question boils down to how the 'weeks of a month' and production days within a week or month are defined..  Maybe JohnZ knows the answer to this?

2180  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Chambered Exhaust Hangers - Assembly line VS Reproduction on: November 28, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
You guys are showing me (again) how I screwed up when I didn't buy the chambered pipe hangars back in the 70's when I purchased the chambered exhaust system parts from GM... and to top off how ignorant I was, I didn't know at the time that my 9C car couldn't have come with them....  we live and we learn!  Smiley
2181  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Trunk Mat cut for Spare tire hold down on: November 28, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
The photos I posted earlier are from my original mat, BUT.. it is torn in several places, so it is possible that although it *appeared* to me that one of the tears (on the upper right of the oval) was a cut, it could just as easily have been a 'straight tear'.  I did not remove the mat to examine it more closely as I probably would have torn it more...  I'd love to see a photo of an original 69 trunk mat in better condition than my own so I'd know for sure...  so if someone has one, please post it for ius all...   Smiley
2182  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Gas tank date codes on: November 14, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
I checked mine last night.   I've an original 09C Z28....   
The gas tank code is  5  70 .    I was thinking it must have been repllaced before I purchased it in 1976, if it wasn't made until 1970??    but I notice several other 08 and 09 cars with 70 dates. 

So how does this code work for the extended-run late '69 cars??
2183  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam on: November 13, 2011, 03:54:15 PM
It has a part number but I couldn't tell you what it is. They were used on the Trans-Am race cars. I got that from a friend whose boss' brother worked on a Trans-Am team.

It's possible that these panels were *added* to certain small black T/A cars (by some race teams) for aerodynamic purposes....?  to 'slick' up the bottom of the chassis?
2184  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 z/28 carb fuel line bracket on: November 13, 2011, 03:48:49 PM
Steve,

yes,the bracket you picture is identical to the one on my 9C Z28.. which I posted photos of earlier in this thread. 
Yes, our cars are *perfect* for halloween being orange/black (with orange/black houndstooth interior)..  Smiley
It was nice to chat with you today.. Wish I could join you in chicago..

Gary / 69Z28-RS
2185  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Trunk Mat cut for Spare tire hold down on: November 13, 2011, 03:41:35 PM
Does anyone have a survivor picture of the way a trunk mat is supposed to be cut for the spare tire hold down bracket welded to the floor of the trunk?  I have a convertible but am guessing a coupe would be cut the same way.   

Attached is a photo of my original mat; it's torn to the left of the hole, but the cut to the right seems to be an original cut line?



69Z28-RS
2186  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28 YH rims on: October 27, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
Check your local yellow pages for a 'Wheel Fixit' or a 'Straight Wheels' franchise..   they predominantely repair alloy wheels, but they *may* repair your steel wheels as well.... ?
2187  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 BB Camaro with Factory Aluminium Heads on: October 27, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
Thank  you John...    I think I knew that already (at some point in the past Smiley, but references to 'L89 engine'...  threw me off...
2188  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 BB Camaro with Factory Aluminium Heads on: October 27, 2011, 10:37:50 AM
In the Corvette world, an L89 is a 427ci/435hp tripower engine (with Aluminum heads)...  How is it that they used the same engine designation for a 396/375 (4bbl) engine in the Camaro by addiing aluminum heads?
2189  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How Much Do You Drive? on: October 27, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
I traded my '68 Z28 for my 69 Z28 in 1976, and drove it regularly for 4 yrs (after rebuilding the engine)... but it was last driven in 1980 - when it went to the garage -(due to 12:1 pistons and poor gas!), after which I drove a '70 Z28 for a couple of years.. I have other 'classic cars' which I've always driven regularly mostly on weekends and to car shows, cruises, etc... For the past 2 or 3 yrs (after getting on this site) I've been gradually working towards getting the 69 Z28 back on the road again.. pointed towards getting it judged in the 'unrestored orgiinal' class.. 
2190  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Differential Color on: October 27, 2011, 10:16:11 AM
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It sounded mean but with 4 muffler sections chambered exhaust was actually more restrictive than the standard muffler/resonator system.

Has anyone ever tried/ran just the rear most chambered exhaust sections?   John Z had told me a few years ago that the full chambered system was actually more restrictive than the standard muffler, but I love the chambered sound..   I bought all the chambered pipes in 1976, before I realized my late car couldn't have come with it...  Sad
 
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