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2011  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: March 04, 2012, 12:30:50 AM
Yes, that would be the closest *simulation* of the original part that I can think of also...  I might have to resort to something like that.. but I've got a little time to keep looking for an original stud before I have to reinstall the spoiler.. Smiley

thanks for everyone's comments.  If you've got an extra original stud... let me know.. Smiley

Gary
2012  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: March 02, 2012, 11:29:39 PM
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?userwatch%7EdynamicSearchPage%7Ecadeiije
(www.oldmusclecars.com = Classic Muscle Car parts)

Studs: PN 1478SK
Mounting hardware: PN 14789H

You be the judge if they are correct.  But this is what they are all selling...
Those kit(s) might be correct for early cars, I can't say, but they are different than my 09C '69 car.   They would probably 'function', and they are closer than anything else I've seen available for sale, but differ in several respects from what is on my car.
2013  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: March 02, 2012, 11:25:36 PM
Looks like if you ground off that extra unthreaded part of that stud it would look the same.
It's closer than anything else I've seen, but besides the 'unthreaded' end, the 'nut' portion in the center isn't correct for late cars either;   Mine 09C car has a perfectly round (5/*" D), very thin (1/16") as a stop for the stud as it screws into the spoiler.   If your extra spoiler has such a stuc, and you can get it out..  I wiwould buy it from you...  Smiley

Gary
2014  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: March 02, 2012, 01:35:45 AM
Thanks 68Z..   If your spoiler is a '68, then the studs *might* be different?   The '69 spoilers had longer studs (1 " long) in the four position along the front edge of the spoiler, and 4 shorter studs along the rear edge.  The only reason I can see for the longer studs on the forward edge is to make it a big easier to get the nuts started since the studs are located where the deck lid reinforcement is about an inch deep?  I need the long one to be correct (1" exposed).   Once removed the short end  that goes into the spoiler is 3/8" long.

Gary
2015  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: March 02, 2012, 01:27:00 AM
the fiberglass isn't damaged.   but the long ext part of the stud was broken off flush.   I have removed the broken part by using a hammer and small chisel and gently tapping til it began to rotate..  I got it out without damaging anything.   I used the same technique to remove one of the good ones, so I can see the entire part..   I've attached a photo of it below.   The short end of the stud is 3/8" inch long and screws into the spoiler until the 5/8"  D flange stops it.   The long end of the stud is 1" long and is the external part that goes thru the decklid.   The screw threads are identical (1/4-20) on both ends of the stud  Today I went by Fastenal, but they have nothing like it.  Neither does the AMK catalog.   This may be one of those 'impossible' parts?   Does anyone have an old broken up *original* rear spiler that might still have a installed?   I only need ONE..   Smiley

Gary  / 69Z28-RS
2016  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: original wire connectors on: March 02, 2012, 12:57:05 AM
Remove the wire and take it to a Radio Shack... you should be able to find duplicate spade lugs, and the same color/gauge wire to make a new one... Smiley
2017  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Package Tray Paint on: March 01, 2012, 01:56:32 AM
I checked my original car tonight; the garnish around / below the rear window is as I remembered..   flat, but not 'velvety' or 'suedy'..  (whatever that means), but it is flat enough that where it is touched it will leave 'shiny spots' which is a characteristic of very flat finishes.  I took photographs, but they are too large to post here, so I'll have to reduce resolution and size or retake the photo.

I would describe the finish as 'semi-flat black'....

Gary
2018  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Package Tray Paint on: February 29, 2012, 02:23:35 PM
What do you fellas mean by 'suede' paint?   Are you referring to a 'flat'  or 'semi-flat' finish?  with ie. low light reflection? 
I don't think I've ever heard the 'suede' term used previously (in 45 yrs or so) referring to automotive finishes.   Are there GM documents that use the suede term re '69 camaros??
I do recall when I purchased my '69 Camaro in '76, the first time I cleaned my rear glass on the inside, I *noticed* that the paint on the lower garnish moulding was more flat than anything I'd seen previously on a car I'd owned.   That same car has been sitting in my basement garage since 1980, and I don'[t recall 'cleaning' the inside of the back glass in that time..  if I have, it's only been once or twice.. Smiley    so it should still be close to the same.   I've pushed the car out a half dozen times in those 30+ year since to wash it on the outside.. and wiped it down on the inside maybe 2 or 3 times.   I can take a photo tonight if it would halp, but I can't guarantee the light level..?

Gary  / 69 Z28-RS
2019  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: cowel installation shimming on: February 29, 2012, 01:30:04 AM
I just removed my cowl panel this weekend; I believe it is the first time it's ever been off.   There were standard body shim under two attaching screws (2 under 1, and 1 under the other).   Incidentally, I noted that the original body shims are slightly larger (maybe 1 or 2 mm) than the reproductions packaged by AMK in their fender bolt kit....

Gary
2020  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Why do 68 z28s bring less than 69s even though 68s are much more rare? on: February 28, 2012, 04:52:38 PM
someone mentioned having a Corvette Bronze '68 Z...  which is a gorgeous and rare color.  A friend of mine in the USAF back in '68 had a bronze 327 with 4sp.. gorgeous!  That would be my favorite in a '68, although I really liked my Lemans blue '68 ;  it was a basic Z - no extras except spoiler, and when I had opportunity to trade it for an 'unusual orange/black/org/blk houndstooth' 69 Z28/RS with all the bells/whistles in 1976, I had to do it..  but I wish I'd kept them both..  also wish I'd kept the '70-1/2 orange/white Z28 I bought a few years later..   wonder if my wife would notice 2 more added to the 14 or 15 I already own?   Smiley    unfortunately back in those days, I only had garage space for one.... so the others are gone...sad to say!
2021  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: February 28, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
As does my 09C Z28, Daniel..   and I'm certain this is origiinal, and I believe when I removed the spoiler last weekend, it was the first time ever it had been off.  Unfortunately, one of the studs was broken off flush, and I'm uncertain how to remove the stud without damaging the fiberglass spoiler  I tried drilling into it with a 5/64 bit, intending to use an easy out, but I broke the bit off in it..  Sad

Does anyone have any ideas of suggestions??

Gary
2022  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Why do 68 z28s bring less than 69s even though 68s are much more rare? on: February 27, 2012, 12:04:56 AM
I've owned '68, '69, and '70 Z28s.   I think the '68 was 'quicker', probably due to it's lighter weight.   The '70 was a nicer driver and better handling car.  (I'm talking 'stock' form here)...
But...  I traded the '68 for the '69...  and later bought/sold the '70...  and I still have the '69Z28-RS..    Smiley
I think it's looks correllate directly with it's popularity and appeal today...

Gary   /  69 Z28-RS
2023  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stud Replacement in original rear spoiler for '69? on: February 26, 2012, 11:59:49 PM
Steve,  The PN for the double ended stud you specified, are not exactly correct.
The four forward studs in the spoiler have 1" of length extending from the spoiler (I haven't been able to get the broken one out, nor have I removed one of the good ones to see what the length is which is screwed into the spoiler.   The rear most 4 studs in the spoiler are shorter, with 3/8" extending from the spoiler.   The nuts used for them are also different from the rear most to the forwrd most studs.   The forward studs (the longer ones) used a nut with a 3/4" floating/captive washer.   The rear most nuts have a smaller diameter captive floating washer (5/8" I think).   I have it written down in the garage..  and I'm typing from memory here.   I'm certain that these studs and nuts are original on my car.  I've tried to removed the broken off stud, but am thus far unsuccessful....  Sad

Gary

Gary
2024  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I'm drooling. on: February 25, 2012, 11:50:37 PM
I'm a Chevy guy at heart, but I'd LOVE to have that Cadillac convertible to restore..  Smiley
2025  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 Hood Hinge Color on: February 25, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
I think light phosphate gray would be better, if you have to paint it.    A better alternative might be to actually 'phosphate' it;..  Check out Palmetto Enterprises for their phosphate solution.   Besides the solution, I had to purchase some Stainless steel pots (large enough for the parts you intend to phosphate), and a hot plate and thermometer.. (and lots of WD40 for neutralizing after the coating process)..   It works great for the fasteners after you've cleaned and derusted them.. 
"Metal Rescue', or 'Evaporust'' works good for removing rust (non-destructively for everything else like paint, rubber, etc)...

PS.  I remember fondly when my wife used to help me in the garage..  Smiley   

Gary
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