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1936  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: GM 3905525 Metering Valve Disassembly and Rebuild on: November 25, 2012, 01:23:17 PM
Should be metering valve and brake switch unit be painted or 'natural' for factory original finish?   The bracket for the brake switch from my car appeared to have been 'dipped', and the metering valve bracket appeared to have been natural finish...  I went wild back in the 70's with my krylon and sprayed everything, so now between my overpaint and my 'old/bad' memory, I have no idea..  Smiley    Any help appreciated as I cllean and reinstall these items.

Gary
1937  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals Show Nov 17 & 18 in Chicago on: November 19, 2012, 05:47:46 PM
Yep... and apparently 550 NEW cars...   Smiley
1938  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring Original Ball Joints on: November 18, 2012, 01:06:55 AM
boots from 'energy suspension' (in red or black) were the only ones I was able to find 'boots only'....
1939  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: source for 69 Z28 Exhaust Pipes? on: November 17, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
Bill..  Just read it and responded.   Thanks.!
1940  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Burgundy Z with Red stripes on: November 15, 2012, 03:10:21 PM
We'd all love to see those color pix of the new '69 Z28.... taken in the day!  Smiley
1941  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: source for 69 Z28 Exhaust Pipes? on: November 15, 2012, 03:07:26 PM
William,

My tailpipes are correct and have the chrome tips;  I can't recall if these were on the car when I purchased it, of if I bought all that new in the '70's.  I do know I bought some things new; I even bought an almost complete chambered system to put up (and use when I restored the car)...  but of course the chambered is not correct for my car as I now know.

I have everything correct and in good shape except the exhaust pipes and resonators.  Is Gardners the only source for correctly configured exhaust pipes?   

Back when..   good muffler shops had cards which told how/where to bend the pipes to duplicate the factory parts...   Don't they still have those cards and do that?   

Gary
1942  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / source for 69 Z28 Exhaust Pipes? on: November 15, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
My '69 Z28 has the original pipes over the differential and behind the diff muffler and tail pipes, but I've ran headers since I bought the car in the '70's, and thus had a 'muffler shop' connection from the headers to the differential pipes. Question: Is there a source for *original type* exhaust pipes from the factory exhaust manifolds to the rear section? I think this would consist of the exhaust or header pipes and the resonator section (for my late 09C '69 Z28).   I have the original 'day 2' takeoff exhaust manifolds which I plan to use.
If there is no source, is my only option to have a muffler shop bend up a replacement?
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Gary
69Z28-RS
1943  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rare Camaro on Cars in Barns site on: November 15, 2012, 11:08:30 AM
I agree T-model66..  appears to be an extremely well-preserved original car, which is also very *rare*.. YES,,  Camaros with bench seats are rare... 
a bench seat in any of the pony cars are rare; I didn't even know a bench seat was an option in those cars until long after they were new.. and I've only seen a handful in my lifetime since. 
Note:  I assisted a good friend with restoration of a '70 AAR Cuda, with bench seat and column shift Auto ..  How rare do you reckon that is?  Smiley
1944  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Are the any differances in sub frames? on: November 13, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
I might be preaching to the choir but I have always used a piece of 1/4" cable to keep these things from killing you. It's old school but I was taught by old school mechanics. Take a piece of cable and circle the spring a couple of times and put a couple of clamps on it. This way if the compressor slips it can't go anywhere. The cable will keep it from expanding any further than it was when you captured it. It works real good and might save a disaster. 
I also learned from 'old school' mechanics, and similarly I use a heavy chain around a couple of spring coils and around the frame as a 'safety precaution' when removing or installing coil springs...

Gary / 69Z28-RS
1945  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Trunk sound deadner on: November 13, 2012, 01:20:34 PM
If the purpose of this was 'heat insulation' from the muffler, what is the possibility that when they changed the exhaust configuration, and added the resonators forward of the muffler, that they also deleted this material?   There would be more heat dissipated forward of that point, and less heat at the muffler with that change....
Gary  / 69Z28-RS
Gary, all deluxe interior cars were provided the sound deadener( I've seen it on a 10C of 69 and is also on my 9c of 69 car).
Interesting point Ed makes that its purpose was to dissipate heat. My feeling is that the trunk floor deadener purpose was to attenuate any noise / resonance due to the rear axle and suspension in the open trunk area. The material they use I wouldn't classify as heat resistant.
Ed where is this referenced "It was designed as a heat barrier to keep the heat from the muffler from melting/deforming the trunk mat".

Steve,  I appreciate your comments, and it is interesting that some later cars had it when mine apparently did not.  My car still has the original trunk paint and trunk mat, but no evidence of anything ever having been glued in that location on the trunk floor. (although there is some deteriorating material falling into the trunk area from the hat rack area above which seems like sound deadening material?)..   I agree with you that a tar-based material would be used for noise purposes, ie. 'panel vibration damping', rather than for heat insulation.  I doubt it would provide any significant heat insulation..

Gary
1946  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Trunk sound deadner on: November 12, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
If the purpose of this was 'heat insulation' from the muffler, what is the possibility that when they changed the exhaust configuration, and added the resonators forward of the muffler, that they also deleted this material?   There would be more heat dissipated forward of that point, and less heat at the muffler with that change....

Gary  / 69Z28-RS
1947  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Trunk sound deadner on: November 12, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
My 69 has no evidence of ever having had anything like that...  I've owned it since 1975-76....

Gary
1948  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Trunk sound deadner on: November 12, 2012, 01:15:37 PM
I suspect someone added the tar paper and undercoating in trying to quieten the car; 
My 09C (late) production Z28/RS (with custom cloth interior) does not have any tar paper or undercoating on the floor of the trunk.
1949  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Official CRG Cap and T-shirt? on: November 12, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
Tmodel66:    Aren't we all sorta weird?  To be spending so much time, effort, and $$ on 40+ yr old cars??   Smiley
1950  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Official CRG Cap and T-shirt? on: November 12, 2012, 01:10:59 PM
Agree on the white:   I wear T shirts mostly in the summer months, when it's HOT, and when I'm at a car show (OUTSIDE- repeat HOT) I'm wearing car related T shirts...   WHITE reflects most of the sun's heat....  Smiley

PS>  To reiterate what was relayed from Steve's wife:   the number of colors (and screen/masks) are what drives the cost more so than anything else.   With front and back logos, you have separate screens for each color (for each of the front and back)...  so with red/white/black on front, and red/white on the back, you have five screens involved.   If you stick with one color per side, you have only two screens...

Gary / 69Z28-RS
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