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1756  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: mecum Kissimmee on: January 27, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
Yes, they 'said' that..   but I didn't get the feeling that it was an accurate statement; I think they said it because the 'ZL1' term is most often associated with 69 Camaros.
it was probably one of the 'new' ZL1 engines.    The 55 BelAir was beautiful though..  it bid to a VERY HIGH price, but was a no sale...
1757  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Heater core and resealing inside heater assy on: January 26, 2013, 06:12:19 PM
I'd sure like to know too what the materials are in item #1 & #2. Mine has completely fallen off.
Unless I get some better information from someone here, I'm going to Lowes... Smiley
1)  the damping material on the heater flapper door *appeared* very much like the material used inside HVAC return air ducts (to dampen the sound).
2)  The 'seal' between the heater core and the heater/def box *appeared* very much like standard home door weatherstripping (that you use between external doors/windows and their frames. 
And I suspect both these materials would work OK if I can find them at a home repair store.
1758  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: mecum Kissimmee on: January 26, 2013, 03:22:28 PM
Mecum has an auction with 3000 cars next week.
With 3000 cars over ten days, it'll be interesting to see if they run out of bidders before they run out of cars.
Anyone else feel like Mecum is more Muscle/Pony car and Barrett Jackson is more Corvette and Fins?
yes.... that's why i like mecum
I see it as more the difference between the BJ "haves" and the Mecum "have not so muchRoll Eyes  Shocked  Sad
Watching Velocity on Saturday, the last day, there are still bidders, and they seem to HAVE quite a bit of $$$..  Smiley
Prices are astoundingly high.. and I suspect the cars there are more *real* than lots of them seen at BJ..
1759  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Zl-2 Cowl Hood Production on: January 26, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
My late 09C Z28 ZL2 hood is dated '25'...
1760  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 SS350 muncie 4 speed tunnel hole template on: January 26, 2013, 01:45:05 PM
One of the photos below was pretty good, and you could probably measure offset from that.  If you can't, My drive train is out and the jack is jacked up, so I could take a similar photo from the bottom if you want...  Not any good way to measure I can see..

PS.  Don't cut your hole with a plasma cutter..  it will be TOO NEAT to be original...  Smiley   
1761  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Radiator Re-coring ? on: January 26, 2013, 01:35:23 PM
Two things
- save the top and bottom plates and have at least the top plate installed on the new core.
- tags can be soldered on sometimes and thus won't come off easy.
Thanks for the suggestion to save/reuse the top plate..  that's the one that had the square holes in it.   I'll talk to the shop on Monday!  Smiley
1762  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Heater core and resealing inside heater assy on: January 26, 2013, 01:33:59 PM
The heater core in my car was tested *good* by the radiator shop, and I've cleaned up the heater/def box for re-installation and I've a few questions for those of you who have done this before.
1) there was a 'thick material'? on the heater door (behind the heater core) which either served to insulate? or to dampen noise ?from the blower.  Of course this material was deteriorated and came off during the cleaning operation.  Now for re-installation, I'm unsure if I need anything to replace it, and if so, what is the preferred material for doing so ?
2)  The heater core was installed inside the box using a 'weatherstrip' like material to seal the core against the heater box.  Again, this material came off/out when I cleaned it, and again I've a question of what I should use to reseal that area?

The external (firewall) blower motor housing seemed to be sealed to the firewall using gray 3M rope seal, so I plan to put that back to augment what was left there.

PS. I also found a date code on the Heater Core (Harrison 69 J' )     Does anyone know what month J is for heater cores?   is it September?   My car is an 09C..

Any other suggestions from you guys before I do this task?
1763  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: mecum Kissimmee on: January 26, 2013, 01:06:02 AM
I watched a bit this evening...    some nice Corvettes brought some big $$ without a lot of the hype that you see from the BJ people..
1764  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Zl-2 Cowl Hood Production on: January 26, 2013, 01:04:11 AM
Do a search.  Kurt has collected a fairly large data base with this information available to us in the email...   maybe search on hood date code?
1765  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Speedometer gearing... on: January 25, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
speaking of FI engine swaps.. Smiley..   I recall going into my local garage back in the '60's.. and seeing rows of early Corvette FI units sitting up on a high shelf.   when I asked, the garage owner said they were swapped off Corvettes for carburetors at request of the owners...  They were all for sale for $75 each..  with no takers.. Smiley   Much later on I learned that they only required someone who understood the units function, and how to set them up to make them run *right* and get great mileage too.. Smiley
1766  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Radiator Re-coring ? on: January 25, 2013, 09:44:29 AM

Will do. I'll try to get it tomorrow, BTW, look at the link Ed sent me for a good look at the tags and the tabs that hold them on - good pictures (great info !).


Thanks Steve,   even though I'd verified my radiator *(UH) long ago from the site, in going there today, I noticed some additional information on specs for the radiator and core, and also additional data on fans and clutches.  
Note to Kurt:   The update did not include the *date codes* on both the fan (914087  H69, and 3947772) and fan clutch (EATON CV, and H21J) that my car has.   My car is a 09C production, and most of the parts on the car are dated 'H' for August).   I believe these fan and clutch H codes also represent August '69 in this instance.
1767  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Radiator Re-coring ? on: January 25, 2013, 12:37:36 AM

Tags are easily removed, with a little care. They grip around the edge of the tank, and have a couple of "spurs" that lock them on. If you're careful, they'll usually come right off without damage. Be careful of weakened (rusted) metal - it's pretty thin steel.

I have not had any of my radiators rebuilt as yet, but a fellow Z owner near me had his rebuilt by a shop in Nashville. Swears it's dead nuts, and knowing this owner very well, I'd take his word for it. His Z has been in his family since the early 70's, and he is very particular about it. I suppose it's too late to get the source for you, but according to him, the 3 row core, exact duplicate, is available. I intend on getting mine done at the same source he used (whenI can afford it).


Thanks Steve,

If you get the name of the ship or the brand/mfg of the core..  please let me know..  Smiley
1768  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: January 24, 2013, 11:27:07 PM

My understanding is that any '69 Camaros ordered with the 4-wheel disk brakes also included the 15" rallye wheel (or it was a mandatory associated option?)  I assume this would even be true with the one 6-cyl Camaro that was supposedly ordered with the 4-wh disks?

E70 x 14 tires were never available as original equipment on a 1969 Camaro.

The standard size [non-SS or Z/28] was E78 x 14; F70 x 14 optional.

SS cars had F70 x 14 as the standard size; several varieties were optional.

Z/28s and COPOs also equipped with 9737 used E70 x 15. There were no 15" tire options.

JL8 included 15" wheels when not ordered with Z/28. Only one such car is known to exist.

William,  I'm not sure what you mean here...   only one 'non-Z28'?  or only one 6 cyl car?   
I've heard about the 6 cyl car either here or TC, and I have a friend with a '69 SS396 HT with factory JL8.
1769  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Radiator Re-coring ? on: January 24, 2013, 11:20:07 PM
I will call the radiator shop back tomorrow, and ask him to remove/save the tag.   he knows it's important to me but I didn't think about taking it off.   Is removing the tag and replacing it after the recoring, something I can easily do?  I've never seen one of these off before.

I will reuse the sidetanks and save/reuse the tag, but the core comes with the 'top' and bottom' braces.   The top brace has 'square' holes in it.   I asked him if the new core would duplicate that exactly and he wasn't sure; nor am I sure how one would 'drill' square holes if none are there in the new core... ?  Smiley

The original radiator is a 'three core', but when I asked the shop, they said the new one would be a three core, OR Equivalent 2 core (ie. larger holes?)...   that bothers me a bit.   Should it?   Is there a preferred source for radiator cores to ensure more exact duplication?

1770  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 69 Z28 Radiator Re-coring ? on: January 24, 2013, 12:22:48 PM
I just spoke with my radiator shop.   I'm told my heator core is GOOD, but the original '69 Z28 (UH) Radiator core is bad (at the header at the bottom).   I'm told he can replace that with an *identical* core for $300.   I just told him to proceed, but I feel I should inquire here to make sure I'm doing the right thing.  I definitely need to repair this original radiator.   Should I be asking the radiator shop any questions re anything?Huh  manufacturer, type, size, etc?
Thanks in advance for whatever suggestions you might make!
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