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1756  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Stamp on: February 09, 2013, 11:00:21 AM
Dean,  when I first traded for my 69 Z28 in '76, and knowing it was all original (based on it's condition and history at the time), when I inspected the pad, and found NO VIN stamp, but correct engine assembly stamp, I was *very confused*, becuase all the other Z28s I'd had and knew about up til that time had the VIN on the pad.   I went close to 10 yrs before I learned thru a car magazine ad, that 'late Norwood' cars had the VIN stamped into the cast surface above the oil filter boss.  Knowing the car was original, I NEVER considered 'stamping' the VIN in myself!   Instead, once I learned about the different stamping location, it only remained for me to pull the engine so I could *verify*, which I finally did in the late 80's and went to great extremes before I could even *detect* the stamping... special light, sunlight, enhanced high res photos, etc.   My point is, I think someone would ONLY stamp something into an original part IF they had strong suspicions already, that it was a 'fake'.. and the only wanted to make it a 'better fake'...   at least, that's MY opinion.
1757  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Old pictures of the 1969 Z/28 I owned in the late '70's on: February 09, 2013, 10:40:07 AM
I really liked the orange/black RS-Z photos, Oaklyss.. maybe I'm prejudiced though?  Smiley  and the 'camaro parking lot' photo was super.. Smiley
1758  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Nemo storm... on: February 09, 2013, 10:37:08 AM
Here's hoping all our members in the northeastern US aren't without power or heat sources this weekend. Hearing about all the snow/cold up there, while here in the south we're having decent winter weather of 40s to 50's.. and sun... makes us feel very fortunate. 
Stay warm guys - and if you do have power and your camaros in the garage, maybe it's a good time to do some wintertime work on the classic..  Smiley   !!
1759  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1967 Metallic brakes on: February 09, 2013, 09:49:16 AM
Thanks Jon,  I read that article last night and was impressed with the photos and detail, on an area I was ignorant previously ('67 metallic and J56 brakes).. Smiley
1760  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Template for 69 Deluxe door emblem? on: February 09, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
Hakan,

Since no one has replied, I just went to my car and took the attached photo which should give you enough information to place your emblem.  I took the photo from as 'perpendicular' orientation as I could, so measurements should be ok directly from the photo if you have positions for the center of the window handle, and the forward part of the pull handle to use as reference points from your own door panel.
1761  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: TRACO Fans on: February 09, 2013, 09:25:54 AM
If it were a locking down of the outer mass ring to the damper hub, I would agree with you Jon, but perhaps if there were a larger hole thru the outer ring than the screw inserted, leaving a vibrational gap region around the screw shaft, the screw could resist a total slippage, but could still allow the mass damper to damp out high freq vibrations and harmonics.
1762  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New site articles / pages on: February 09, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Much Thanks and congratulations on well written articles to all the authors and CRG.. Smiley
1763  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Old pictures of the 1969 Z/28 I owned in the late '70's on: February 08, 2013, 06:44:53 PM
Attached are a couple of photos of my old '68 Z28 which I owned for a couple of years right out of college, and which in '76 I traded for my current '69 Z28.  Photos are poor (made in 1975 timeframe), and probably shot with an instamatic, and only scanned from the old print a couple of years ago.. Smiley
1764  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Clock repair on: February 07, 2013, 11:00:49 PM
Has anyone bought a quartz kit for their Camaro and installed it themselves?  I purchased a quartz kit for my '69 Corvette many years ago.  putting it in wasn't a big deal.   Are kits for the Camaro available reasonably?
1765  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Clock repair on: February 07, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
Thanks for the comments and suggestions.   I also got some good tips from Kevin W..   I removed the cover and cleaned and lubed the mechanism iwth WD40, and the clock mechnanicals work fine (runs for 2.5 min per winding, but the solenoid that rewinds the spring isn't doing it's job.  May be bad points, or a bad connection in the works that I haven't found yet.

If I wanted to put a quartz mechanism in it, what is the best source?
1766  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 Camaro 4-speed Saginaw tranny on: February 05, 2013, 10:31:45 PM
Personally, I'd consider the tranny date not very important; the VIN is what is important for you.   Unless you have the *original one* with your VIN, the date doesn't matter.   Just find the best deal on the tranny you want to install..  forget date..  IMO...   and if you are going to pep the engine, or drive it hard, I'd suggest going with a Muncie rather than the Saginaw...  which are not known for their strength.
1767  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Build Quality in the Muscle Car Era on: February 05, 2013, 06:55:00 PM
In much of the Muscle Car Era, however, Ford was the Manufactures winner in NASCAR for a variety of reasons...
David Pearson was one of those *reasons*..  while Petty Enterprises and King Richard helped give Chrysler more than their share.. Smiley
1768  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Build Quality in the Muscle Car Era on: February 05, 2013, 08:35:20 AM
SPeaking of fuel costs as one reason todays' cars have more plastic and less real steel...  Smiley

I recently removed my glove compartment and things under the dash for checking/cleaning etc..  and of course, had to clean out the glovebox.. first time since 1980.   There were 50 or 100 gas receipts, mostly Amoco 'white gas' premium, and some Shell super.   I examined the prices I was paying back then.   An example:    on 23June1977, I purchased 12.0 gallons of Amoco super (white) for a grand total of $8.15 (67.9/gal).. Smiley      That price was pretty typical of the prices from the '76 thru '80 period of these receipts.. Smiley   but of course, we were all complaining..  the octane had dropped, the price has risen.. etc....
1769  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 smallblock (302) Oil dip sticks on: February 05, 2013, 07:41:50 AM
Each new poster should copy this and add his information to the list before posting.

type 1)   flattened handle on end, no PN, no plastic tip, stamped "ADD |           | FULL   USE GM 6041-M QUALITY MS OIL   E".  (E turned 90 deg).
type 2)    green tip on handle, no PN, no dimple,  stamped    "ADD !           ! FULL   USE GM 6041-M QUALITY MS OIL   M".


Member            Production           Dipstick
                     Plant       Week        Type

69Z28-RS        NOR        09C            flat
JOHNZ            NOR        02D            flat
BULLITT65      NOR        08C            flat
RSZMJT          NOR        06A            flat
jdv69z            NOR        10(68)        flat
68CamaroZ28    ?          11(68)        Green tip
X77-69Z28      NOR        05A            flat
1770  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Build Quality in the Muscle Car Era on: February 04, 2013, 11:14:35 PM
Regarding fit and finish, and overall quality, I'd say GM rated #1 among those with Ford second and Chrysler 3rd.   Chrysler always got nitpicked on their fit/finish/quality, but i always considered their engineering second to none in those days.
I've been going thru my 69 Z28 the past few months, after it having sat in my garage since 1980.. and I've become very impressed again with how well the Camaros were designed and built.  Much better quality than today's 'tin can' cars in my opinion, but of course.. times have changed..   fuel cost 10X more, etc..
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