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1756  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Wheels used on Trans-Am Camaros on: January 31, 2012, 01:35:10 AM
I have two sets of magnesium American Racing Wheels which were previously ran on Robert Christiansen's '69 Z28 in TransAm and IMSA GT races.   One set are the 5 spokes (one of which has a cracked spoke), and the other set are the AR 6 spokes, in great shape.    Both sets of wheels are 15 x 8.   The 6 spokes have 4 inch backspace, and the 5 spokes have 4-3/4 backspace.   Robert (Bob) who ran a gray/black '69 Z28 under the R.A.C.E banner for *(Robert A Christiansen Enterprises) ran the 'dry weather tires on the 5 spokes and rain tires on the 6 spokes...

My understanding is the when Trans Am began, AR had the 5 spokes, but esveral teams experienced cracking.   AR began working on a stronger wheel, ultimately coming out with the 6 spokes, but by the time they were introduced, Minilite had gathered most of the market!   The six spokes are considerably heavier than the 5 spokes, and are visably stronger.

I've got good front and back photos of both sheels, and Somewhere I've got an ad ran by AR for the TA70 wheels, if anyone is intersted in seeing them.

Gary
69Z28-RS
1757  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: January 30, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
Marty (IZRRSS) above wrote (in part):  "Here is my suggestion; I am no good at multitasking, just ask my wife…I focus on one topic, try to do it well and move onto the next. I need someone to take the bull by the horns and head-up the next two phases of this study; Fastener Part #'S & dimensions & Fastener Part #'S as they correspond to the AIM. And we also need to get a handle on which fasteners went with which years (67,68,69). IMHO both of which are much more complicated than what we're doing here. "

Unless GM/auto industry has their own policies, I would suggest that if the AIM-based PN is the same, then the location doesn't matter..  The PN itself should reflect 'form, fit, and function', and seldom does anything else matter.   IF the same PN is referenced in multiple locations of the AIM (and I don't think yr matters), then the part is the same!

Bottom line:  If we can associate the AIM PN correctly with the various head markings, then I think the job is done.   Am I right ?  or  ?
1758  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 302 Starter Motor Brace Bolts on: January 29, 2012, 12:07:10 AM
How about Classic Muscle.

     http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?userwatch~dynamicSearchPage~cadeiije

To see a picture of the bolt, type in the part number and hit ENTER.
The part number in question is  #9419370.  Read the information on the first page for ordering information.

Thanks!   I didn't know about this site, so in one day I have two means to identify fasteners from the AIM...  (I received an order from AMK today and they included a 'free' catalong.   The catalog does have means to look up and identify GM Pn's from the AIM as well... which is great!
1759  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 valve cover hardware on: January 28, 2012, 11:58:32 PM
Except that the 350 hp, 350 ci in Corvettes also had the same valve covers as the '69 302 ci in the Z28..
1760  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A BIG thank you to CRG on: January 28, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
So what was the deal with the incorrectly stated color?    How did that shake out??  Smiley
1761  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Finally home!! on: January 28, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
Smiley     Isn't it amazing what one can accomplish with a little engenuity and the capable helpmate?   Smiley
1762  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: A Arm washer etc finish 1969 Z/28 on: January 26, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
It could be that those parts you cite were a bit 'oily' from manufacture, and thus the 'black paint' didn't stay on very long ....
1763  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front Lower Valance Panel Camaro's on: January 21, 2012, 01:26:30 AM
that choice is one of 1) Restored, vs 2) Over-restored....   you choice....
In some judging organizations, you would lose points for 'over restoring'....
1764  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: BJ Auction - 67 RS went for $80k on: January 19, 2012, 01:47:35 PM
They use the 'restored' term pertty loosely...  given a '327/275 hp engine'.... with 'high output' aluminum intake
1765  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 1967 350 Oil Filter: Canister vs. Spin-On on: January 19, 2012, 01:40:11 PM
I recall that was an issue if you took your car to a typical 'service station' for an oil change; the young guys doing the oil change didn't always remove the old sealing ring, and would either toss the new or or install it over the old one... and that DID cause leaks.   
1766  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Horn Fasteners on: January 19, 2012, 01:26:04 PM
I've noticed the same thing..  chemically, I doubt there's a huge difference in the makeup of 'Evaporust' and 'the phosphating' solution sold by Plametto enterprises....
1767  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What rare part would you like to see a top quality reproduction produced? on: January 18, 2012, 12:58:27 PM
someone above wrote:  
"Good point, but all these companies had to do was make them right in the first place........   If it were my company making parts, why go through all the research in engineering, manufacturing, marketing.....and make total junk ?? "

What makes you think that these reproduction *companies spent any $$ on engineering, manufacturing, marketing, etc?    All most of them did was *copy* an old GM part... without considering all the dimensional changes a part goes thru or any other 'engineering' criteria...

Someone else wrote:
"I'm with you on this one John. I have yet to get a "bolt on" reproduction part. Meaning nothing fits perfect, nothing is made with any quality. If they go to the trouble to reproduce why not go the little extra? "

... because all those *extras of engineering, testing, prototyping, proper manufacture, etc' is NOT a 'little extra'..  it's a LOT extra...  which is why they don't/can't do it....

The bottom line is that a good restorer is much better off to find 'decent original parts' and rework/restore them whenever possible and only use 'aftermarket/repro' parts when it's a necessity, and not becuase it's *easier/quicker/cheaper*....
1768  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How much does a Jerry Mac Neish certification add to a cars value? on: January 18, 2012, 12:46:01 PM
In that case your wife would probably put an unrealistically low price on the car and it will sell immediately without the buyer even asking about documentation...  Smiley     
(Just kidding)..  Smiley
1769  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Horn Fasteners on: January 18, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
I've been following these threads on fasteners pretty carefully because my original '69 Z28/RS (late 09C build) was apparently in a minor front end fender bender early in it's life (not the greatest repair, as I believe all the original fasteners were put back on, but not *necessarily* in the same locations they came from... Smiley    I know it was in an accident because when I purchased it in '76, the lower valence had a GM pn sticker on it's backside, and there's a small amount of fbody iller in the front portion of the hood.   It's difficult for any of us to know (unless we owned our cars from new) and even then we might have even *forgotten* about minor repairs performed 40 yrs ago... so going by what is on our cars is not as *robust* a method as what the AIM shows...
1770  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Finally home!! on: January 15, 2012, 09:02:24 PM
you have a 4 post lift with casters..  roll it in place behind the box truck, raise it to the same level, roll the car (is it on wheels?).. Smiley
if it is, just roll it onto the lift, then lower the lift to the point you can roll the entire thing back into your shop..

If it's not on wheels/tires, then....... I suppose you handled the rear of the car, and let your wife womanhandle the front??  Smiley

Gary
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