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1696  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Drive Shaft Restoration on: August 28, 2013, 10:00:57 AM
I used the Evaporust in a 5" PVC tube method to clean up my drive shaft and was amazed at the results. I soaked it for 2 days and rinsed with scotch-brite pad.
Thanks CRG members. Finished pictures & before.  George.
Did you consider not scrubbing the area with the paint stripes?   Were the paint stripes still legible after the soaking with evaporust?
1697  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Holes in choke tower of Holleys? WHY? on: August 27, 2013, 10:18:58 PM
Devcon and replate it?

I'm unsure what Devcon is??  but I'd think you could use one of the low temp mild metal 'welder kits' and weld it up.. grind/sand it down flat, and then recolor it...??  but it would be a lot of work for an 'also ran' carb...
1698  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Steering Column Sticker on: August 27, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
I have a 'production sheet' from a '72 Chevelle, which has tilt column and floor shift (auto), and it's steering column code is 'TT'..   Does anyone have any idea if this might have been the same code used on Camaros in '69?   I think from the previous posting by ZLP, all Chevrolet models used the same codes and numbers for the same type of columns, and if that is true, then the question becomes one of .   Did they change from year to year?    '72 Chevelle sheet attached..
1699  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Steering Column Sticker on: August 27, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
I really like what Hans has done with the TK label, which is for floor shift, non-tilt columns, but what about the floor shift TILT columns?     We know the number (7808154) from the GM data posted by ZLP earlier, but what letter code does it get for a sticker?   The one I have was restored and doesn't have the sticker...
1700  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 26, 2013, 09:30:13 PM
some apparently do.. and some don't..  Smiley     
1701  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Holes in choke tower of Holleys? WHY? on: August 26, 2013, 08:14:30 PM
Water injection was one of the 'fixes' suggested back in the late 70's for keeping high compression engines running on lower octane fuels.  I briefly considered that and some other 'fixes', before I decided to just park/store my Z28 in 1980...  I even considered conversion to propane, but where do you put a propane tank in a Camaro?  Smiley
1702  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay, Has no Tach?? on: August 25, 2013, 10:28:45 PM
Is this car in the database? Anybody know of this guy and his dual Camaro Z/28's? Why is there no tach. Could you even get a Z/28 without a tach. I know that no console is fine.That seems like the only real red flag. Anybody else see anything? The Trans Stamp looks kinda not correct and too clean?? Maybe not..... What about the trim tag? Danny
      VIN Number: 124379N645214      Engine Code: V0508DZ     Engine Casting Number: 3970010

There was a thread on Team Camaro from the fella who found and purchased those cars (from one older owner), but I was unable to find the thread when I looked again? Maybe it got removed.      He purchased the cars purely to resell.... but what I was able to see, looked real...
1703  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: restoring 69 hood hinges on: August 25, 2013, 10:24:59 PM
Thank you Cook...  Smiley     

There is some really good information at that link on zinc plating, and clinch riveter, as well as the phosphating article.  These work for Chevroelts as well thunderbirds.  Smiley
1704  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 25, 2013, 08:29:06 PM
Those look like big blocks, so that must be the Tonawonda plant, hi perf small blocks are built at Flint.  It would be very interesting if someone has some GM or Chevrolet specification document which describes how the plant workers were supposed to paint the engines.   That would resolve the question.
1705  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 25, 2013, 12:10:47 PM
Attached is a reduced size photo from the ebay auction Charley referenced.   I've extracted it and reduced it's size a little for displaying here.   The residual paint on this bellhousing is consistent with unrestored aluminum bellhousings I've removed from Chevrolets over the years.   The amount of coverage of the factory paint varied but I've personally never found one that indicated complete coverage of the bellhousing from the factory.
1706  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Rally Sport Fenders Correct? on: August 25, 2013, 11:57:37 AM
Yes, agree with John, too little detail to really see anything.    Suggest you take a closer up photo at higher resolution of ONLY one fender front, and post that..  at a file size closer to 150KB...
1707  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 24, 2013, 11:38:14 PM
MOST restored cars are what we used to refer to as 'over restored', ie made prettier than when Chevrolet did it... that's especially true when the judging organization(s) rules allow it without point deductions.   When I've judged at national shows in other organizations, we deducted for 'over restored' items or areas.   examples were:   bc/cc paint where lacquer was used originally (and yes, I dont' want to get into another argument/discussion over the reasons for that here).. Smiley,  buffed or polished paint where factory only 'sprayed it and forgot it'..  or gloss paint where factory used semi-gloss or semi-flat...
1708  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Sales receipt VIN only number off on: August 24, 2013, 11:52:43 AM
CRG lists the SS options and prices as such, probably based on 'initial pricing at beginning ofyear?"..   the purchase order was at the end of the year, and typically is a bit more:

SS/350-4bbl   -L48      $200
SS/396-325hp -L34     $250
SS/396-350hp -L35     $350
SS/396-375hp -L78     $470
SS/396-375hp -L78/L89     $868.95
1709  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Original T/A racing photographs, late 60's & early 70's on: August 24, 2013, 10:31:32 AM
James, it for sure is a '67 but they put '68 doors on it, a '68 grille and side marker lights to make it looks like the current year model for the '68 season.
It's been returned to a '67 look and is currently owned and raced by Tony Hart...
The white painted car, with the bright rallye green stripes and accents is different, and striking!
1710  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 paint code 52 Garnet Red, need help! on: August 24, 2013, 10:27:42 AM

Smiley  I agree with the first part of that (lacquer painted car should get the *most* points, whether it be 'unrestored' cars (which may have had parts repainted), OR restored cars, with total repaints.   BUT...    I can't remember how many years it's been since I saw a factory 'lacquer' painted Camaro with orange peel; it was probably in the early '70's.. Smiley     Lacquer is so soft compared to today's paints, that it didn't take too many washings, and polishing/waxings, to totally smooth down any orange peel that came out of the factory (Although, GM got credit for having the BEST factory finishes among the major manufacturers and a big part of that was their paint finish, as the lacquer did get a factory buffing (I think), OR the paint process didn't leave them much peel...   Even a new '77 Monte Carlo I ordered in mid '77 did not exhibit noticeable orange peel when new (although it was the worst designed new car I ever purchased).   I suspect the fast drying nature of lacquer minimizes probability of orange peel in the finish, along with it's softness that doesn't take much buffing to eliminate it.
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