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1696  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Subframe Crisis on: March 28, 2013, 08:38:30 PM
What year did chevrolet begin using automated robots for painting car bodies?

Painting robots weren't introduced in GM assembly plants until the mid-80's, and weren't in widespread use until the mid-90's. Exterior painting was "automated" in some plants in the late 60's, but it was done with air motor-powered reciprocating spray guns on fixed supports, not with robots.

Was the Norwood Camaro plant included on that list of 'automated' paint plants (in 1969) John???
1697  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Z28 fuel line support bracket -JohnZ? on: March 28, 2013, 11:04:11 AM
We've had some fairly recent discussion and photos of original parts for this bracket.   Take a cruise thru the following link:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8747.msg61154;topicseen#msg61154
1698  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: It's Baack-----2014 Z28 on: March 27, 2013, 11:55:53 PM
I have to agree with jano.. the Mustang is the best of the 'retro pony cars'.   The Challenger and Camaro both *feel* too big; look too big, and the visibility is awful.  PS.  I do like the performance of the engines though..
1699  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Stamping Tool for VIN on Block & Trans on: March 27, 2013, 10:35:13 AM
I agree with Charley; you've got a nice car, an unusual color, and I think the small custom feature of the paint in the stripes sets it off, and coordinates with the blue interior quite well...
1700  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car on: March 26, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
i noticed that the "Lagod #44 car" in the pix with the blonde has the American Racing 'TA-70' 6 spokes magnesium wheels on it... Smiley
1701  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Originality questions for Tilt Column (restored) vs Original non-tilt column on: March 26, 2013, 11:13:35 PM
Thanks for the followups (Azure and Tmodel).  I think I've gotten enough confirmation that I can proceed with reasonable confidence that it's *right*... Smiley
1702  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Subframe Crisis on: March 26, 2013, 11:06:46 PM
There are many threads on here with photos and info about the various undercarrage colors, and why they vary in hue and coverage. You'll also find that a person did not shoot the car's color, it was automated.
What year did chevrolet begin using automated robots for painting car bodies?
1703  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Subframe Crisis on: March 23, 2013, 10:38:19 PM
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Funny that it would have shown up there because whoever painted mine missed part of the lower tail panel completely with top coat.
The lower the painter got to get under the valence and rockers, the more overspray there would be on the floor....
1704  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Originality questions for Tilt Column (restored) vs Original non-tilt column on: March 23, 2013, 04:47:02 PM
Gary is that green piece hard plastic? I think mine was the same way yours is. I looked but I can't find my pictures of the steering column. 

I've taken another look, and tried to use a magnet on it, but that's difficult to do with so much metal so close to it.   I do tend to think it might be plastic due to it's shiny look.  Perhaps it was a stop/spacer used in the factory when they installed the coupler to the end of the shaft?

Oh and that key boss don't look right but I could be wrong. It seems that's a later model thing if I remember correctly.   
Are you referring to the taller key boss?  on the tilt column?   I have both the restored tilt column, just purchased as 'original restored' from Gary's classics in Athens, TX.. and I also have an original tilt column of the late sixties era, both have the tall boss for the keylock, but my samples are limited, which is why I asked the question hoping someone with a known original tilt column in their 69 Camaro can respond...
1705  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Any info on door mirror dates. on: March 23, 2013, 12:13:34 PM
you'll have to position your lighting and camera off angle to minimize reflections.
1706  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Originality questions for Tilt Column (restored) vs Original non-tilt column on: March 23, 2013, 12:06:08 PM
Tmodel:   It could be plastic, it does have that look, but I didn't even consider that possibility.   I'll go check it with a magnet .. Smiley
1707  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: repo 67 Z28 trim tag for sale on: March 22, 2013, 11:01:45 PM
Greenville Ohio Craig's list,  owner  has reproduction trim tag for sale for a 67 Z28 ,  he is stating that it is reproduction,  looks good in pictures ,  just thought I would bring it up so you could see how long it takes to find it's way on to a real car.
'finds it way to a real car'Huh?  or finds it's way to a fake car??
1708  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Any info on door mirror dates. on: March 22, 2013, 10:40:52 PM
Gary,

The format should be 'mo'-DMI-'last digit of the year' ...  ie for yours it would be 5-DMI-9     if I understood your intent.    On my mirror, the code is upside down, and located on the bottom of the mirror (mine is an original remote mirror).
1709  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Subframe Crisis on: March 22, 2013, 04:14:18 PM
JohnZ could probably respond to how the factory did it, but on mine it *seemed* to be 'black underneath'.. and it seemed to be a high quality tough black.  I suspect that was the corrosion protection for the basic body, then the gray and/or brown primers (probably overspray during body paint), and then the orange overspray... with also some 'black overspray from when they painted the rockers and firewall..  That's just my guess from what I observed while cleaning under my floor.
1710  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Keys from keycode? on: March 22, 2013, 10:14:57 AM
Thanks John..  I suspected that. Smiley    ..  gives me another task to do on my car.. Smiley
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