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1531  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: wiper arms and door handles on: July 11, 2013, 09:55:37 AM
The wiper arms that were on my car when I purchased it in 1976 were/are a dull silver/aluminum bare metal finish.   Although I painted mine flat black when I purchased it to further minimize sunlight glint off them, that black is mostly gone now.  I do not know if the arms on my car are the factory-original ones or not, but they would be an early replacement if not.  Note:  I do have NOS wiper assemblies for my '69 Corvette that I purchased at a swap meet in the '70's.. and have never installed; still in the box, but I don't know if the Corvette units are the same/similar to the Camaro or not; the Corvette wipers are hidden under the wiper door, so aren't subject to sun-glint as are the Camaro ones, and that might have led to a difference in the specification provided to the wiper suppliers?   I can go pull the corvette wipers from their box and photograph them if anyone is interested;  I can't recall if I ever even looked at them?
1532  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 11, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
hi Scott,
What did the judges say about your hardware?   Can you photograph it as it is and provide the photos and what the judges told you?  JohnZ's original 02D if I recall, has the acorn nuts on the four rear-lip studs for the rear spoiler, whereas the blue white unrestored Z (05B or 05C?) at the Frederick nationals had the nuts same as my and other later '69 cars I have seen and noted at the nationals.   yours is in the middle of the data points I have, so it 'might' be either way? or it's also possible that the factory had some 'leeway' in what to use, and which was used was somewhat arbitrary?   The rear spoiler was installed in the Fisher plant, and I'm unaware of any factual documents for that (such as we have in the factory assembly manual for what was *supposed* to be done in the assembly plants...  Provide some photos of yours and give us the judges statements and points, and maybe we can all learn something?
1533  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 10, 2013, 04:39:07 PM

Yes, I believe yours and mine are the same, and also the same as on all the late  '69 Legends cars I observed at the nationals last week.  The same nut type was also on the unrestored '69 Z28 (blue/white) - a May'69 car. 
Attached are a few photos:   
photo1) the rear-most nuts as originally installed for holding the spoiler.
photo2)  the 7 original nuts from removing my spoiler for cleaning and repair (one of the longer forward-studs was broken and the nut was missing),
photo3) one of the longer studs from a fwd spoiler position with the flange and two differing thread types.  What made the studs unusual was the existence of a 5/8" diameter 'flange' in the middle of it's length, with machine thread studs on one side of the flange, and a self threading type thread on the other side (for installing into the spoiler itself).     Note:  the rear-most studs were similar to the forward ones, although with shorter machine threads on the 'nut' side.

1534  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Thought I would share. on: July 09, 2013, 03:49:03 PM
those pictures take us 'old farts'..  back..  Smiley
1535  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 350/325? on: July 09, 2013, 12:29:48 AM
Steve, I missed out on a lot of neat cars at great prices over the years because of that threat..  but she is still with me after 43 yrs..   (but I sure do miss those cars I almost bought) *L*
1536  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 09, 2013, 12:26:27 AM
Scott,  I'm unsure when the changeover happened, but the late '69 Z28's used a special flanged stud and nut with built in washer and rubber..  I think '68's used the acorn style, and probably early '69's?   the unrestored blue/white car like yours was a May '69 car and had the flanged stud and washered nuts..  I can't recall what month your car was??
1537  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67-68 shifter mounting nuts - for sale on: July 08, 2013, 04:10:59 PM
for the NEXT YEAR???      hopefully you aren't going to Russia for one of those mail order brides? *G*
What's CRG to do???
1538  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 350/325? on: July 08, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
Yeah, an engine that 'winds up quickly' gets my adrenaline going... *G*...  and I dont' care for boat anchors.. er..  big blocks ..  either.  *G*
1539  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 350/325? on: July 08, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
In 1968, you could order a Chevelle with a 327/325 hp engine which was really strong.   A friend had one outfitted with all the SS goodies, bucket seats, 4 speed, console, etc.. and it would blow the doors off of SS396's.   I'd love to have one of those now.. Smiley
1540  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: L48/M35 ZL2 air cleaner finish opinion on: July 07, 2013, 11:11:15 PM
It appears correct to me...  as least I'd have no problems with it... based on the photos.
1541  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans-Am season review on: July 07, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
and.. I believe there WAS a lot of axle/bearing issues with the service duty rears, as the lack of axles ultimately caused discontinuation of use by racers... although this may not have occurred until the mid 70's and IMSA GT racing?
1542  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block on: July 07, 2013, 04:22:10 PM
Pad looks good, btw. Smiley
1) The 'stamping' itself 'looks' good, but I understand there are 'restampers' who can duplicate original stamps/holders?
2) The original broach marks are not visible in the supplied photo, but all kinds of horizontal and diagonal lines are  very visible, which is suspicious.
3) The engine assembly date of 0724 is more than 2 months after the 0522 cast date, which is very unusual, and also suspicious, in my experience.
4) The VIN provided of 687352 could not be confirmed from the pix (by me), but that VIN corresponds to 18-19 September 1969, which is a day or two after my Z28 was built.   This also raises suspicions as my engine was cast on 0826 and assembled on 0827.

I'd have to see a LOT more information and examine the engine before I'd feel good about this being an original DZ block...
1543  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans-Am season review on: July 07, 2013, 03:14:34 PM
that's an interesting note re 'one of the Trans Am car manufacturers to homologate independent rear suspensions for '69-1/2' trans am cars, without new tooling...     I assume that was Chevrolet/GM considering that?   re the already existing Corvette IRS???    Can anyone expound on that possibility and what happened to prevent it??
1544  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Canadian POP reissue on: July 07, 2013, 03:09:57 PM
Not sure this is accurate, but per an internet search, FCO in international trading is:

Full Corporate Offer .

This is the final, detailed, specific offer that the seller is sending to the buyer.   Makes sense?
1545  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Engine hook bolts on manifold on: July 04, 2013, 12:26:06 PM
Edgemontvillage was referring to the engine orange on the head surface between the valve cover and intake manifold... ie. the upper part of the machined surface for intake gasket...  which normally would not get painted on such an engine (with aluminum manifold and aluminum valve covers)..
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