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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Shipping Data Report vs Trim Tag on: November 05, 2014, 09:52:51 PM
Just guessing here..  Tell me how close I am?   Smiley
 VINs from ~ 658146 to ~ 658795 came off the line on 18 June 1969.       Does your VIN fall into that range?
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67 VIN # on: November 05, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
6 cyl coupe when new....
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Shipping Data Report vs Trim Tag on: November 05, 2014, 10:40:29 AM
Gary,
That's not correct. Orders were placed sometimes months in advance.
The tag was made for the build, not for the order.

'Months in advance' may be true for larger volume orders, or for dealers orders leading into a new model year, but in cases of a 'customer order' (which receives higher priority for build scheduling), it is generally 2-4 weeks.   I 'special ordered' a handful of cars (Chevrolet and Chrysler) during the early 70's, and the fastest a car came in was 2-3 weeks, and the longest was around 4 weeks prior to the cars' build.   I know from my own engirneering/manufacturing background (not the automobile industry), that when an order was received, it was 'estimated' when the order could be filled (for feedback to the customer).   Since all the other information on the cowl tag (model/options/etc) is KNOWN, or generated (bdy nbr), at the time of order acceptance  I'm curious just exactly how long after order acceptance did it take Chevrolet to provide the information to Fisher and and when did Fisher 'fix' the data that would go on the cowl tag?   I'd think this would happen in a few days to a week at most.

The fact that some cars cowl tag date and actual build date differ significantly suggests that there was sufficient time between the "cowl tag data generation" (that could be well before the cowl tag actually being made) that temporary unforeseen parts shortages etc could affect the time difference.   If the cowl tag data (production week) was generated at the time the car was actually beginning the build, then we should not be seeing the significant difference in the dates as we do.  We've already been informed by JohnZ and others that once the body began the process, hardly nothing affected the build sequence, and the production rate was 'fixed'...
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Dare to be Different 'department'... :) on: November 04, 2014, 10:48:01 PM
http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=3174

Who wants to be the first to do a 24 cylinder first gen Camaro???   Oh..  I guess this should have been in the modified department.... Smiley
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Early 1968 Z/28 original tires? on: November 04, 2014, 05:48:42 PM
Typically, all five tires matched *unless a space saver option were selected*.  This was true even in cases where the spare tire was mounted on a 'regular' rim rather than a special rim if so ordered.   I'm speaking of the automotive industry in general during those days, as opposed to Chevrolet specifically in 1968...
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Shipping Data Report vs Trim Tag on: November 04, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
I still think there might be confusion in some of our minds about the 'week' on the trim tag.   

As I understand it, the 'production week' which ended up on the cowl tag is the  Projected week of production *at the time the order is placed*!    The complete cowl tag information was generated at the time of order (including the 'week of anticipated production').   

During the time between order (and generation of the cowl tag data) and production, sometimes *crap happened*..  typically affecting vehicles scheduled for production.   Schedule dates are shuffled to keep the production line flowing, which delays vehicles needing parts that might be in short supply, but also 'moves up' vehicles not affected by those shortages.  Thus actual production dates can be before or after the 'scheduled' week on the cowl tag.

If the above is correct as I believe, it is not a good technique to use the 'production week' from the trim tag to determine when your car was produced.   One should use the VIN and the actual production schedule to determine a *better date*.. in most cases we can figure the actual production date of your car within a day.
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Who's going to SEMA ? on: November 02, 2014, 09:28:20 PM
I guess I'm going to miss it, although that's something I'd love to attend one day.. 
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Shipping Data Report vs Trim Tag on: November 01, 2014, 10:40:17 PM
There are a multitude of reasons that would cause the actual production date of an individual car to be different (earlier or later) than it's scheduled production date.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: October 30, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
The Chevrolet dealer, and probably any parts store for aftermarket ones.... and they may all be made by the same company (Dorman?)..
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 772 fans and unstamped fans on: October 28, 2014, 07:44:22 AM
Austin,

Your fan is the same, but not the clutch is it?   ie.  Is your 'fan to pump' distance on your clutch 1-3/8" or 1-5/8"?
26  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: 18L340067 Complete 396 motor and 400 Tranny on: October 24, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
Seems like a great deal for someone wanting an original 396 and 400 trans..  (with allthe attachments)..
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking for recommendations for poly locks for use with 302 on: October 24, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
*L*..  Yes, but even worse...  it was just north of the Elkton exit.. Smiley     
28  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Wheels used on Trans-Am Camaros on: October 24, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
Which wheels are the T-70's?   
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Heartbeat Camaro 'Motherload' on: October 23, 2014, 02:57:44 PM
An email from Heartbeat Camaro today described and listed his newest 'Mother load' of Camaro parts..

They might have bothered to spell it right ("mother LODE", not load), but it's a little late now.  :-(

I agree John..   in fact, when I typed it here, I first spelled it correctly..  then changed it to the way they spelled it.. I suppose they were making a pun..  meaning the lode was a real LOAD..  *L* 
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Heartbeat Camaro 'Motherload' on: October 23, 2014, 07:09:41 AM
An email from Heartbeat Camaro today described and listed his newest 'Mother load' of Camaro parts.. JL-8's, cross rams, u name it.  he's got it all in NOS or used form....  I'm glad I don't need/want any of it because I surely couldn't pay the prices... Smiley
.. but maybe some of you guys can..?

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=0e54b3d7-7b64-4d24-802b-0645f2fd2fff&c=3dac3880-4dd0-11e3-967b-d4ae528eb27b&ch=3ebae960-4dd0-11e3-96ff-d4ae528eb27b

http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/motherload/motherload-page/index_5.htm

http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/motherload/hbc_nosrarepartslist_web.pdf
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