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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Well My Camaro online Compadres, Time for a fight of my Life! on: September 10, 2014, 03:02:34 PM
Fantastic Danny....   a big key is staying positive, and sticking close to that gf of yours, and continued working on your neat '68 Z..   will help greatly at maintaining a positive attitude..  Smiley

Gary
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 04D 14x7 rally wheel trim ring & center caps on: September 10, 2014, 03:00:31 PM
The 14 x 7 trim rings used the 4 clip design throughout the model year. The original ones I have for an 04C build are 4 clip. I think it was just the 15 inch trim rings that changed mid to late year.

I never saw the 'finger style' until much later..    early to mid seventies...  but I certainly didn't see all the '69's...  *S*
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: September 09, 2014, 10:38:52 PM
Thanks Guys,  Like Bullit said, any information may be worth the $$.   I worked at my home town dealership, I was even called during the holidays to accept a load of cars during Thanksgiving  holidays.  WoW, when I saw the green Z, I knew who ordered that.   My sales manager and I sat down and ordered the car so I knew what it had.
My old dealership has closed , being a small town dealer , all local business went to the next larger city 20 miles away.   

I think any information would be worth it to me, so I can pass on to my son and grandson.     I know the dealer and we were in the Houston zone.   The car is a non X code Z car, 12A .   
But my question was , on this site there was a note : "1969 Camaro 9N508855 to 9N587275 data missing ", I am 9N554389 , so if someone can tell me that the data exists,  I will order.   

Thanks again,  I don't normally log into this site as I hang out at TC, but I may come back over just because I now have all the time in the world.   I retired after 35 years in the oil patch. 

Well Kurt S  just answered my question, data for those vin's  above are still missing.  So end of road.   


if you know the dealer who delivered it, the only other piece of information you'd get would be production date, and that can be figured very closely (with 1 day or so) using the VIN number
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: September 09, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
Knowing the official production date along with a document that states the original dealer is a plus for any Camaro owner I would think.

And the official production date is lots more realistic in figuring validity of production dates on the component parts than using the 'planned/projected production week'...    e.g.  '06A'   this is only the projected period they expect car to be produced at time or order... and there can be differences, from several days to significant' delays.
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 04D 14x7 rally wheel trim ring & center caps on: September 09, 2014, 03:05:25 PM
I've seen, and had, many 14x7 trim rings with 4-clips...  I buy them for my friends when I see them at swap meets..  and the 4-clip trim rings are the only ones I recall seeing in the late '60's and early '70's....  but that's just my experience.. and my opinion..  (and of course everyone is entitled to their own) *S*
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / First Camaro delivered to Yenko... $300K?? on: September 09, 2014, 08:16:17 AM
..  would seem to be  'overkill' on price to me, but what do I know...  Smiley

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/09/09/first-camaro-delivered-to-yenko-chevrolet-sells-for-300000-in-dallas/?refer=news

22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 04D 14x7 rally wheel trim ring & center caps on: September 08, 2014, 02:32:24 PM
I'm quite4 a bit older than you, Scott.. and I was driving these cars when they were new.. and I remember what is correct (or at least what all the cars I had access to came from the factory with).    I was asking Luv2sixty9 why he thought 4 outer clips were incorrect.... I'm curious why he thinks so... Smiley
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: September 08, 2014, 02:30:04 PM
That one appears correct to me..   both the condenser and the bracket and screw..  It's difficult to see the rake angle on your bracket, based on your photo..

24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1968 Z28 on: September 08, 2014, 12:22:57 AM
Which fender emblems did it come with?     Z28 or 302.      The Z28 badged cars are considered late cars,   Built in mid or late March to the end of production.   Also considered when GM started pushing the Z28 package.    My curiosity is how many early cars were built compared to late cars.    I have a late car, May 15th.    I just know when I look at 68 Z cars I have not seen near as many early 302 badged cars compared to late Z28 badged cars.    I know GM added and deleted colors around January.  

and a few people likely swapped the 302 badges for Z28 badges..
25  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: LOST 19L524802 V0211DZ if it's real ! on: September 06, 2014, 09:19:46 PM
Well..  in 1957, Chevrolet actually painted some 265 ci small blocks yellow (actually chartreuse, which is a greenish yellow)...
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Ebay Trim tag counterfeiter on: September 06, 2014, 09:50:27 AM
Anyone know if this is Bill that once lived in Lubbock, Tx.  I heard that he had moved somewhere.

You're referencing Bill Clements; he's got to be up in age by now... but who knows...?
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / ebay ad for a big block Z11 car.... on: September 05, 2014, 12:41:34 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171447226749?_trksid=p11010.c100135.m2768&_trkparms=aid%3D222006%26algo%3DSIC.FITP%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122141244%26meid%3Daf8004ab08af4f779607e9544e09cea5%26pid%3D100135%26prg%3D20140122141244%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D151396882349/?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1120

Just looked quickly at this one..  For Sale (NO reserve), supposed 2 owner car with non-original engine (but original Muncie, etc)..
Its got some paint chips and scuffs, but I liked it.. (IMO..  chips and scuffs show 'character' for a driven car.. ie. that it IS driven).. Smiley  

I'm just curious what the Z11 gurus on here think about this one?
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1968 Z28 on: September 05, 2014, 10:53:15 AM
that makes sense to me Darrell...  as during that period, people were still 'learning' about the existence and capability of the Z28 (few knew about them during the '67 model year)... and we learned about them mostly thru car magazines, and magazine publication schedules are generally a few months behind the information gathering, and if I remember correctly it wasn't until early in 1968 calendar year (Jan or Feb?) that the Z28 emblem began being used rather than the 302 fender emblem....
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shat R Proof Front windshield with no DOT? on: September 05, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
That's an interesting explanation of how it *might* have happened, Rick..  but I'm unaware of a final user ever requiring a 'date code' on such a part;  the date codes are ONLY for the use of the plant making the item, for the purpose of determining problems in their production and nothing else I'm aware of.

so a plant making new items (glass or ??) in mid February, and dating it March...  would seem to put it all out of whack?    Now, having said that, and realizing that glass dates are ONLY for the month and year..  perhaps a week or two 'variation' doesn't really matter in glass production?

Note:   On original Chevrolet cars, it is NOT unusual to see glass that varies by several months (earlier) on a car, but I personally have never seen an original glass dated AFTER a cars production.   That several month variation comes not from the variation in the supplier shipments, but generally from how the assembly plant handles their incoming inventory.. (as has been said many times before, 'it ain't bread'.. and doesn't need to be rotated FIFO...)..  Smiley
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: body parts, am i over looking anything.. also... on: September 05, 2014, 08:49:07 AM
check out what Jano said..  re the 'racing junk' site.  If you could find a decent body, minus drive train, trim, etc..    all the good parts from your car should move right over... and you'd be in a GM body.. and you and your son would have a good car to work with, and still lots to do, but much less than what you have now with your very rusty body... 
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