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1456  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 Z/28 Correct leaf springs, where to buy? on: April 24, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
Eastwood sells a 'Sharkhide aluminum and metal protectant'..   $60/quart....  Is that what you used Scoop?  just rub it on?  or spray it? or ??
1457  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: DZ engine $12,800.00 on: April 24, 2013, 01:43:26 PM
June 5, 1969 engine assembly.   5 june was on a Thursday of the first week of June production.   I'd suspect the engine could have been used anytime from 2nd, 3rd, 4th weeks of June?
1458  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 24, 2013, 01:10:20 PM
Yes, positive on the right and negative on the left if your looking a the battery installed and facing the engine. The pic is correct. ....

Sorry~  Smiley   I started to say something about 'right' and 'left' being relative..  depending on where one was viewing from.. Smiley
1459  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 24, 2013, 11:07:55 AM
1) I think your post is incorrect re the 'terminal polarities'..   See the pix of the Y77 from the CRG info site, attached below.  you can see the polarity is POS on the left, and NEG on the right!
2) Per the CRG information on batteries, the R79 was a HD option to the Y77 (also POS on the left and NEG on the right) per the photos.
3) The original batteries (Y77) used different sized screw threads for Pos and Neg, but I believe all currently available batteries use 3/8" screws.  Note:  The screws inside the cables are removable/replaceable if you happen to have the wrong size and own a NOS Y77, OR the 3/8" screw can be cut down and re-die to 5/16" if needed.   
4) Y77 batteries are no longer made or reproduced to my knowledge, but the R79 is available in reproduction ($340?). and you can buy a R79 battery 'topper' for $49 to capture 'the look'.
I believe the above is accurate as of 'today', and I'm sure someone will correct me if it isn't.. Smiley
1460  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Camaro Tilt column on: April 24, 2013, 10:36:12 AM
I just wanted to correct what I'd wrote below re the rev lockout lever; it turns out the tilt column I believed was for a Camaro, was actually for a Chevelle (it had a different shaped reverse lockout lever).   Camaro rev lo levers are the same for tilt and non tilt, per the experts who redo tilt columns (Gary's Classics in TX)..

Another difference I noted between the tilt column I have (purchased 35 yrs ago at a swap meet with a rosewood camaro wheel on it for $65!).. Smiley  and the std column is the shape of the reverse lockout lever...   std column is almost straight, whereas the tilt I have the lever has an angled bend to it...
1461  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Carb accel linkage and vacuum hardline? on: April 24, 2013, 10:19:48 AM
The longer rubber hose is approx 6.5" in length; I believe it to be original, as it has a 'white line' on it, and is 'old rubber'.   The shorter rubber hose doesn't seem to be original; I think I recall the original was rotten and cracked at the end and I cut a 'too small diameter' hose and tried to squeeze on it..  it's actually smaller than the original rubber hose.
PS:  When I rebuilt my  302 in the '76 timeframe, I ran a Mallory rev pol (all mechanical, no vacuum) and a Judson Electronic Magneto (coil and CD ign), so that's when this line was removed and 'boxed', and hasn't been used since.   I'm continuing to look for the original coil and bracket in my shop.. Smiley 
1462  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 Z/28 Correct leaf springs, where to buy? on: April 23, 2013, 10:09:46 PM
I'm glad it helped.    I liked the 'Light Image Resizer' so well, I bought the pro version! 
The springs look very good. 
How long has the treatment been on them?  Have they been exposed to weather, -  heat, or rain at all?
1463  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 23, 2013, 10:06:06 PM
No problem Tmodel! 
Actually I got a call back from Bowtie Muscle Parts later this afternoon, and Mara gave me the part numbers of the side post battery cable parts she has for the late '69 Z28.  (Lectric Limited is her supplier, but she gave me better information than I got from LL).  The two parts are numbered: 6297683AR and 6297650?), and the lengths she stated are 1" longer than I measured from mine (but note that mine originals are old and stiff and I may not have stretched them out perfectly straight when measuring).   

From the info she gave me, these cables seem the closest to what I believe are original as you can get today. 
Note:  Mara also mentioned that Lectric Limited *could probably* make the cables to whatever length was needed - although I think the lengths she gave are good!, and she also said LL could probably print whatever number was desired?   Her price was $55 each, and they are very good to deal with.
1464  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 23, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
*L*..  Yeah, I thought about that today when I noticed one missing... Smiley
1465  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Carb accel linkage and vacuum hardline? on: April 23, 2013, 09:56:40 PM
Thanks Chick,  I'll check it and see...
 but it's also likely that the hose cracked and swapped for 'whatever was convenient' at the time.. Smiley
1466  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 23, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
For curiousity sake, I called Lectric Limited.   They do not have the battery cables we are discussing for the late Z28's (6297684AS or 6297651AV).  They also raised question on late Camaros having side post terminals, but that's a different question altogether.  The fella on the phone hypothesized that perhaps only cars with HD batterys got the side terminal cables, since the AIM (that he has) didn't have the side post cables listed?
I've also made inquiry with Bowtie Muscle Car Parts, requesting length and PN on their '69 Camaro Z28 sidepost battery cables, but haven't yet heard back on those questions.   Meantime, I extracted my cables, stretched them out, measured them and photographed the ends, part numbers, etc.

Positive Cable:    printed PN  6297684AS, length ~42" (eye to eye) with a ~19-20" small lead wire.
Negative Cable:   printed PN 6297651AV, length  ~32" (eye to eye) with a ~8.5" attached smaller wire.
1467  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 23, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
I removed one of the tag screws to make dimensional photos (attached).  Screw appears to have a 1/2" diameter head, approx. 1/8" thick.  Screw is approx. 5/8" long.
1468  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 23, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
My original cables have the same part numbers as the ones in the auction...  but I'd NEVER pay $800 for old stiff original cables if I didn't have them!!  Smiley

I considered replacing mine a couple of years ago, so I did some searching around on the internet.. and found these parts:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-CAMARO-Z28-SS-POSITIVE-BATTERY-CABLE-302-327-350-SIDE-POST-OE-FACTORY-CORRECT-/190721486216
which were the closest in appearance to the originals.   The part numbers on the pictured cables are different, and I didn't check if they had the correct PN's, nor did I verify the cable lengths..
1469  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 23, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
Gary,
  Do you have a side view of the screws to see how thick the head is?
Mike
I can make a photo pretty easily.. later this afternoon... right now I'm fighting with putting my original rosewood wheel on a restored tilt column.. and making the horn work.... Sad
1470  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Carb accel linkage and vacuum hardline? on: April 23, 2013, 11:44:07 AM
Thanks John!
I was looking for your photos earlier, but couldn't find them searching.. Smiley
When I removed some of those parts, I wasn't expecting it to be 30 yrs before I used them, or I would have boxed/labeled them.... Smiley
Gary
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