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1456  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: new restoration endevour on: November 24, 2013, 02:24:04 PM
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OK, My late father purchased this Jimmy new in 1954 (55 1st series) He drove it daily for 30 years and put over 500,000 mile on it. (still retains the original speedo which was still working at last drive)

It had the motor R&R twice the tranny replaced and rebuilt once and the rear end replaced once. Always retained the 6 volt electrical system and has never had a body panel replaces or repainted.

Then the GMC became a victim of poor storage Sad

Is this a SURVIVOR ? just curious.

I think that is one you need to restore, or at least make functional, preserve it, and drive it..  in the name of your father..  Smiley
1457  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Mecum Anahiem on: November 23, 2013, 01:33:31 PM
the Shelby logo should be worth $1300..  in today's market..   Wink
1458  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: More pics of an old Z on: November 22, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
Thats pretty exciting meeting with the original owner. The original owners wife and family live in northern Michigan, it was about 3 to 4 hours from where I was in northern Indiana.   I would to get up there and see them. Having the 4 kids, just didn't get a free weekend to get up there. I still keep in contact with the son. It is hard for to believe his dad owned the car all the way up until 2007, and they never took a picture of it over the years. He was a fanatic about the car, but no pics?
Your pics are a priceless treasure, post up what you get from him, and it might be cool to get a picture of him with the car if you have the chance in the future.
How far is he from you?

It's only been with the advent of 'digital cameras' and big disks on our computers, that taking photos is as easy as snapping your fingers.    I had many cool cars, but very little photos..  instamatics didn't take that great of a photo, nor did polaroids (Wanna buy some old cameras?) .  Smiley     Of the photos we did take, the prints are generally faded, yellowed, etc after 30 to 40 yrs, and it's not easy to convert the slides.  I've got stacks ands tacks of Bell/Howell and Kodak slides trays... but not easy to get them into digital form.
1459  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 9N624309 302 shortblock on: November 22, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
I asked the seller to take better photographs of the VIN stamping, and also of the stamped deck.  He did, but still not good enough.    On his second look, he indicated the VIN might be 91N684xxx... which would put it in line with the casting/stamping dates...
1460  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 9N624309 302 shortblock on: November 22, 2013, 01:21:30 PM
The deck appeared to have been decked, and the stamp was still very clear (deep), that raised an issue in my mind, but those things are difficult to tell from a photograph.   Maybe the seller misread a digit in the VIN (since it is apparently on the side of the block on the cast block surface..?
1461  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69 rear brakes on: November 22, 2013, 08:52:22 AM
Yes
1462  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 RS headlights on: November 22, 2013, 08:30:14 AM
I see them on ebay occasionally...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-CAMARO-RS-ORIGINAL-GM-OUTER-HEADLIGHT-DOOR-TRIM-OR-COVERS-LEFT-RIGHT-NOS-/131051647877?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e83497385&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ITEM-1969-CAMARO-RS-OUTER-HEADLAMP-DOOR-COVER-LH-102B-/400570164517?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d43d7a525&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-RS-NOS-GM-Headlight-Left-Outer-Door-Trim-or-Cover-Paintable-/271317054887?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f2bc1b5a7&vxp=mtr
1463  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: First attempt at Zinc Plating on: November 21, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
RED GORILLA Restorations eh?   There must be a story there..  Smiley
1464  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 B.U. Rear End on: November 21, 2013, 09:42:48 PM
Gary my car is an early September built Z28 and I thought that maybe a C.B.U. rear end would be the best fit, but I have never seen one for sale.

My car is fairly close to yours (build date approx. 17Sept69).  My rear is a   "C  BU0829G1" .      The 'C' is displaced a bit in front of the BU code.. so it's easy to miss, or misinterpret (at least on mine, where the 'C' had caught a rock or something, and was a bit damaged, distorted..    I believe Bryon has full data on the changeover from BU to C BU (etc), and if I remember correctly it is likely that change occurred along with a change in the casting number for the differential, and it likely occurred on, or about on, the normal changeover date to the next model year (end of July?)..
1465  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Appreciation/Recognition for 6 bangers! on: November 21, 2013, 02:38:51 PM
Gary in your signature it shows 55 nomad and 57 nomad, I think you need to "spread the wealth".....ha ha Cheesy

I also like the shoe box chevys. I have a 55 hardtop now. it took 5 years for me to talk my friend out of it. Since everything else I have is pretty much stock, the idea for the 55 is a alumium LS1 with a 6 speed, and just drive the car in primer and enjoy it.. Wink

BUT I am just accumulating parts right now, I have almost everything except the computer, and heads, and some small engine accessories.
There is a long term goal to get all the vehicles under one roof like a barn or airplane hanger, so it will still be some time before it gets put together.

I have had cars with a 6 and they worked well as a daily driver. I bought a 65 ranchero(with a 6) for $200 bucks and drove it for a couple years probably 100k miles, before I sold it for $700. My 64 C/10 had a 6 in it when I got it as well, man that motor ran forever, but when top speed came down to 45 mph, I had to pull it, it has a mean 327 now. I also have a 66 C/10 with a 6 that runs like a charm, although I do vision swapping in that 327 in the future, and building a more wicked motor for my 64.

There is a certain charm to those 6 cylinder vehicles, thats for sure.


...  Nomads were built for 3 yrs (don't mention the later years when they 'used/abused' the name  so a real Nomadder must have all three"
Doesn't it seem that nowadays, all Chevy marketing can do is 'reuse' the old names..  how long since they had  'new idea'Huh

.. Your 55 HT... like a modernized 2-lane blacktop car..  *G*   I dig it..

...the more cars you buy..  the more difficult it is to have all your cars together; I'm spread between two shops now, with a 3rd one undersay.   Smiley

..The 327 ci engine was perhaps the *best* overall combination of torque/power/revvability of all Chevy's combinations...

... I didn't much care for 6-cyl, until an airman bud of mine bought a new '69 Camaro with the 250/6cyl..  I was very impressed with the way it handled and ran..  Smiley
1466  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69Z rear ratios on: November 21, 2013, 01:43:02 PM
John,

What FirstGen was saying is that due to the rod 'angle' relative to the crankshaft throw during combustion (and the power stroke) that some of the energy available from that combustion is actually applied to the cylinder walls - thru the piston sidewalls/skirt, and not 100% to turning the crankshaft.  That results in 'lost energy', increased wear to the skirt and cylinder walls, etc.   That said, *nothing* is perfect, and everything we do is a compromise of one form or another..  and IF you can have a longer rod (for a given stroke), then that loss and increased wear is reduced.  If you took all those things to an extreme though, made the rods very long, the engine would have to get larger/heavier to accommodate it, or the piston pin heights shorter, which involve a lot more problems (ie.. every design is a compromise).

Smiley
1467  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: tie rod paint codes? on: November 20, 2013, 03:05:24 PM
Should we expect a new book...  'Echoes of Buffalo'..   on the near term horizon?  Smiley
1468  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: GM silver for Rally wheels. on: November 20, 2013, 11:20:58 AM
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FWIW Colvin Book FIG 17-8 1969 14x7 jj standard wheel Kelsey Hays drawing number 082153  seems to confirm that wheels were part numbered with varying finishes ,,,plain, rustproof oiled,,, primed KH spec 3323 black..,,,,
Interesting.

I don't have the Colvin book, but I'd love to see that KH drawing and part numbers; would it be possible to scan it and post the image here as a reference?
1469  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Storing Tires on: November 20, 2013, 11:08:18 AM
UV kills tires. I have all 5 "born with " tires for the Z with no sign of dry rot ,however 4:88's and a heavy right foot have left less than desirable tread. They were on the rims but off the car since 69-70. In 90 I wanted the rally's back on  and had radials mounted. Those are still on and display no rot. Also my slicks are still in VGC. My spare had a tire cover on it and had not been uncovered since 76. Sidewalls look new but signs it had been used in tire rotation. (anybody still remember when the spare was integrated in Cheesy) I used no treatment or special way of storage other than keeping them stored in the attic. Dry and sunlight free. We have a large set of wrinkle walls  on the Anglia ,and I always keep the rear off the ground enough to relieve  sidewall pressure while being stored---off the thread but something to keep in mind for those who might be running a street slick ,which have softer sidewalls.
I remember that time very well, Jano.. but I was too *poor* for a five tire rotation, meaning that when they wore out, they ALL were worn out, so you had to buy five tires (or buy four and keep the 'best' of the worn ones for your spare).   I followed the alternative, which meant I didn't use the spare, until the original four tires wore out, then I bought only THREE new ones, and used the original spare for the 4th, and used the best of the worn tires for the spare.   It minimized how much the poor airman and/or student had to shell out for new tires in one whack!!  and I typically traded in the car before the 3rd set was needed... Smiley

PS.  and you are right it's the UV rays that kill tires and other rubber/vinyl items.  The only improvement I'd suggest to the original poster re 'keeping tires for a long time' in storage, would be to put each of them into a large black garbage bag and seal it up, and then store it in the dark place (basements are good and where I keep mine).
1470  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 passenger exhaust manifold pic on: November 20, 2013, 10:53:24 AM
Yours seems to be oriented towards the firewall, Charley..   Are the part numbers for the exhaust manifolds and heat risers the same for '69 and '70 ??
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