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1336  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 with Rally Sport... RESTAMP on: August 30, 2013, 12:32:01 AM
I made a mis statement earlier when I said (about my car):   
"... all the stamped VINs matched, on the transmission, the hidden stamps, and the engine, but the stamping on the engine wasn't as deep as the others (being on cast iron) nor as deep as it appeared to be on this car..."

I looked again, and the 'hidden VINs' under the cowl and under the heater housing do NOT begin with the '1', instead start with the '9' digit, whereas the Transmission and engine vin stampings begin with '1 9 ..'.   Other than the existence or missing of the leading 1 digit, the stamps appeared identical...
1337  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 2013 Monterey motorsports reunion: Who's going? on: August 29, 2013, 11:44:12 PM
Per an April 2013 report....
"In total, the Z/28 weighs 300 lbs. less than the mighty ZL1, or about 3,820 lbs.
This puts it at 40 lbs. lighter than a Camaro SS with a manual transmission
and 200 lbs. heavier than the recently (and sadly) discontinued Ford Mustang Boss 302,,:
1338  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 with Rally Sport... RESTAMP on: August 29, 2013, 11:29:47 PM
All I was trying to say Austin, was that I couldn't see anything in the information/photos supplied that would indicate (for certain) that it was not original...  although the VIN stamping in the block material was deeper than any I've seen, but I've only seen mine and a handful of others.... so that's not a huge sample size.  if someone says it's a restamp, then they should supply justifying information, otherwise...  what does it mean?
1339  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tag found on passenger rear quarter of a 69/Z28 LOS car on: August 29, 2013, 10:38:34 PM
Where were those stickers found?  Underneath interior panels??
1340  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 with Rally Sport... RESTAMP on: August 29, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
The only thing I could tell from his photos was that his VIN on the engine block was MUCH more distinct than any others I've ever seen.   On my original one, it took a lot of effort on my part to even find it, but once I did I was able to make it out, and it matched the Trans stamping.   On mine, all the stamped VINs matched, on the transmission, the hidden stamps, and the engine, but the stamping on the engine wasn't as deep as the others (being on cast iron) nor as deep as it appeared to be on this car...   but I think one would have to examine *hundreds* of cast engine stampings to judge whether it was  'wrong' or not.  Based on what is shown in the pictures, it appears to be a 'real car' to me... with an original engine..  as the DZ stamp also looked good (the strange '6' was a bit odd, but I've seen other 'odd' characters used in engine codes before on original cars.)
1341  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / *original* 69 Trunk Mat ? on: August 28, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
Are there any available reproduction trunk mats for a '69 that *match* the original mat?   I just ordered (and received today) an advertised NOS trunk mat (and obviously it was NOT NOS)...    It wasn't the same material, nothing was like the original.   My original is still in my car, but it has many tears that I've attempted to repair.   It is *thick* vinyl, and is a black on the back with a built in texture.   The top side is smooth vinyl, and 'simulates' the houndstooth look (but on closer inspection, seems to be more 'checkered' than the houndstooth pattern).   

Is there any company making a viable replacement mat, that matches the original?
1342  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Drive Shaft Restoration on: August 28, 2013, 01:45:01 PM
Evaporust isn't supposed to removed paint, so apparently there wasn't much there that wasn't 'integrated' with the rust/dirt... Smiley  I don't think GM expected anything to be there after 44 yrs anyway.. Smiley
1343  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Drive Shaft Restoration on: August 28, 2013, 10:00:57 AM
I used the Evaporust in a 5" PVC tube method to clean up my drive shaft and was amazed at the results. I soaked it for 2 days and rinsed with scotch-brite pad.
Thanks CRG members. Finished pictures & before.  George.
Did you consider not scrubbing the area with the paint stripes?   Were the paint stripes still legible after the soaking with evaporust?
1344  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Holes in choke tower of Holleys? WHY? on: August 27, 2013, 10:18:58 PM
Devcon and replate it?

I'm unsure what Devcon is??  but I'd think you could use one of the low temp mild metal 'welder kits' and weld it up.. grind/sand it down flat, and then recolor it...??  but it would be a lot of work for an 'also ran' carb...
1345  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Steering Column Sticker on: August 27, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
I have a 'production sheet' from a '72 Chevelle, which has tilt column and floor shift (auto), and it's steering column code is 'TT'..   Does anyone have any idea if this might have been the same code used on Camaros in '69?   I think from the previous posting by ZLP, all Chevrolet models used the same codes and numbers for the same type of columns, and if that is true, then the question becomes one of .   Did they change from year to year?    '72 Chevelle sheet attached..
1346  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Steering Column Sticker on: August 27, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
I really like what Hans has done with the TK label, which is for floor shift, non-tilt columns, but what about the floor shift TILT columns?     We know the number (7808154) from the GM data posted by ZLP earlier, but what letter code does it get for a sticker?   The one I have was restored and doesn't have the sticker...
1347  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 26, 2013, 09:30:13 PM
some apparently do.. and some don't..  Smiley     
1348  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Holes in choke tower of Holleys? WHY? on: August 26, 2013, 08:14:30 PM
Water injection was one of the 'fixes' suggested back in the late 70's for keeping high compression engines running on lower octane fuels.  I briefly considered that and some other 'fixes', before I decided to just park/store my Z28 in 1980...  I even considered conversion to propane, but where do you put a propane tank in a Camaro?  Smiley
1349  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay, Has no Tach?? on: August 25, 2013, 10:28:45 PM
Is this car in the database? Anybody know of this guy and his dual Camaro Z/28's? Why is there no tach. Could you even get a Z/28 without a tach. I know that no console is fine.That seems like the only real red flag. Anybody else see anything? The Trans Stamp looks kinda not correct and too clean?? Maybe not..... What about the trim tag? Danny

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-s-match-302-survivor-44-k-mies-barn-find-original-vgc-/290964368468?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43bed3ec54&vxp=mtr#v4-41
      VIN Number: 124379N645214      Engine Code: V0508DZ     Engine Casting Number: 3970010

There was a thread on Team Camaro from the fella who found and purchased those cars (from one older owner), but I was unable to find the thread when I looked again? Maybe it got removed.      He purchased the cars purely to resell.... but what I was able to see, looked real...
1350  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: restoring 69 hood hinges on: August 25, 2013, 10:24:59 PM
Thank you Cook...  Smiley     

There is some really good information at that link on zinc plating, and clinch riveter, as well as the phosphating article.  These work for Chevroelts as well thunderbirds.  Smiley
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