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1306  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: fuse block and big firewall connector on: July 18, 2013, 09:42:03 PM
After 34 yrs of inactivity, you'd need a tuneup too... Smiley
1307  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Replacement Radiator on: July 18, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
He now has 'Classic Headquarters' (right next door to Ricks') and produces a lot of the parts which Rick (and others?) sells.. and he only has a few customers he has to keep happy..?   that's one possibility.  Smiley
1308  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: fuse block and big firewall connector on: July 18, 2013, 09:18:13 AM
I have a question how far apart is your car ? When was the last time you drove it?
Are you trying to embarrass me?   Smiley ..  J/K
I last drove it in Dec 1980.   It sat assembled in my garage for a long time until a couple of years ago, when I began to *relearn* what I used to know about Z28s, and began to disassemble, rebuild, and clean up parts.   The suspension and brakes I've gone thru, along with cleaning the bottom of the floor pan, cleaning the gas tank and fuel line, and replacing rubber bushings on the subframe.   Currently the front clip is apart and some dash components are removed for rebuilding (athough those are ready for reinstallation).
1309  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 18, 2013, 08:53:12 AM
on a different note, HUBLEYMAN what is with all the black residue on the underside of your deck lid? I have a similar film of black on the underside of mine , did your car have some kind of rust proofing done at one point?

I'm guessing that the inner portion of my trunk lid was undercoated early in the cars life (by factory, dealer or otherwise?) and at some point in time the spoiler and emblem were removed. That would explain why those areas do not have any undercoating on the spoiler mounting hardware instead of them being completely covered with the same goop.  If you look at the inner structure from an angle, you can see more undercoating extending further inside of the trunk lid.  Maybe some soundproofing or undercoating was part of the style trim group?

This car doesn't have any extra undercoating or rustproofing inside of the fenderwells or on the bottom floor pans, other than what the factory may have applied to all productions cars.  Charlie
that application might have been done by the owner, or the dealership, in addressing water leaks into the trunk?   The holes for mounting the spoiler are a potential means for rain water to get into the trunk, even if the rubber weatherstrip is doing it's job, IF the rubber seal around the studs/nuts aren't doing their job.  Note:  water leaks into the trunk area can only be from the most forward of the spoiler mounting holes, since the rearmost ones are outside the trunk weatherstripping.
1310  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 18, 2013, 08:49:41 AM
so the million dollar question is what hardware belongs on an 04D car?  Acorn style on the front and the shouldered ones on the back?
hi Scott,  I assume you are referring to the very back lip of the deck lid as the 'front'??  Smiley
Does your car have the short or full width spoiler?   that *might* dictate which way it was built.    How is it now? 
1311  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Engine hook bolts on manifold on: July 13, 2013, 11:22:53 PM
No, I don't agree.  There would be no reason to even try, as it would be futile to have attempted to paint that little sliver of 'head' between the aluminum intake and aluminum valve cover using the crude masks they had to use. 
I've never seen factory paint in that area on such a car (with aluminum intake and aluminum VC), but what you do in rebuilding your own car is your business..   Smiley
1312  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Eaton Fan Clutch, but is it right? on: July 13, 2013, 03:02:18 PM
Attached are photos of my factory original 7 blade fan and Eaton clutch (from my '69 09C Z28)...
I had to do a little light sanding on the fan blade to even tell there were numbers there, but are legible after cleaning away some paint to read the PN 3947772, along with '914087' and date code 'H69' (which I believe is for August '69)..
The Eaton fan clutch still reads:  'H21J'  and 'EATON CV'.. both printed, no stamps that I observed.
1313  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Radiator cap. on: July 12, 2013, 10:45:14 PM
if you don't want to clean/repair the starter yourself, there is bound to be a local shop that does automotive electrical repair..  Check your phone book, or google to find 'auto electric'. or automotive electrical or starter/generator repair shops.   These things are very simple to rebuild... and easy to test if you have a battery .. *G*
1314  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Wiper blade refills on: July 12, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
Yes - those are assembly line correct for 67 - 70 Camaros.  And Corvettes Smiley
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69 had peaked blade reading  <Trico> made in USA
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somewhere along the line the "squished flat peak" blades were used - may have been in Late 69  I am not sure when the change occurred.

Does anyone have any info on a possible 'late 69' change re the above?   I thought the arms/blades on my 09C 69 were original, but they seem to be the 'flat' type (if I know what I'm looking at).. Smiley
1315  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: fuse block and big firewall connector on: July 12, 2013, 03:50:45 PM
Thanks John... 
I'm generally hesitant to 'force anything' when I don't know how it was put together.. 
you've given me confidence to remove that connector now knowing I won't break something...   Smiley
1316  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: fuse block and big firewall connector on: July 11, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
thanks..   maybe I should leave mine alone..   Smiley
1317  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / fuse block and big firewall connector on: July 11, 2013, 03:39:15 PM
OK Fellas.   I'd like to take the big firewall cable connector off and make sure all the terminals are clean and good.   I loosened the bolt and it didn't loosen the connector.   Does the fuse block under the dash need to be removed at the same time?    What am I missing here?  I don't want to damage anything.. Smiley
1318  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 11, 2013, 12:59:03 PM
It might be interesting also to check on 'short' versus long spoilers at the same time...  perhaps the earlier hardware was used with the short spoilers, and the changes made at the same time?... 
Charley, do you have a photo of the 'end' of one of the longer (fwd) studs?   see if it's like JohnZ's or like the later ones?
1319  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: wiper arms and door handles on: July 11, 2013, 09:55:37 AM
The wiper arms that were on my car when I purchased it in 1976 were/are a dull silver/aluminum bare metal finish.   Although I painted mine flat black when I purchased it to further minimize sunlight glint off them, that black is mostly gone now.  I do not know if the arms on my car are the factory-original ones or not, but they would be an early replacement if not.  Note:  I do have NOS wiper assemblies for my '69 Corvette that I purchased at a swap meet in the '70's.. and have never installed; still in the box, but I don't know if the Corvette units are the same/similar to the Camaro or not; the Corvette wipers are hidden under the wiper door, so aren't subject to sun-glint as are the Camaro ones, and that might have led to a difference in the specification provided to the wiper suppliers?   I can go pull the corvette wipers from their box and photograph them if anyone is interested;  I can't recall if I ever even looked at them?
1320  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: spoiler hardware on: July 11, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
hi Scott,
What did the judges say about your hardware?   Can you photograph it as it is and provide the photos and what the judges told you?  JohnZ's original 02D if I recall, has the acorn nuts on the four rear-lip studs for the rear spoiler, whereas the blue white unrestored Z (05B or 05C?) at the Frederick nationals had the nuts same as my and other later '69 cars I have seen and noted at the nationals.   yours is in the middle of the data points I have, so it 'might' be either way? or it's also possible that the factory had some 'leeway' in what to use, and which was used was somewhat arbitrary?   The rear spoiler was installed in the Fisher plant, and I'm unaware of any factual documents for that (such as we have in the factory assembly manual for what was *supposed* to be done in the assembly plants...  Provide some photos of yours and give us the judges statements and points, and maybe we can all learn something?
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