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1276  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 07, 2014, 10:25:21 PM
it seems to make sense that they would be stamped with week of productionl.. and that some would be stamped so lightly as to not be visible, or be very hard to read after 40 yrs...?
1277  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fender, fender extension to front valance alignment ??? on: January 07, 2014, 09:53:31 PM
I'm assuming your inner fenders are also installed?  Are all those retainers fastened?  I'd think leave all those loose until you achieve alignment wtih the external panels..?  just a thought..
1278  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Exhaust Manifold #s on: January 07, 2014, 09:49:44 PM
If you sleep with them, the oils from your body will prevent rust..  Smiley
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...   J/K..     Smiley
1279  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposedly 302 Mustang 'Barn Find' on: January 07, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
That is one nice foot print of a basement. How many cars do you have in there?

six or eight..  I forget..   too crowded to work, so I'm in the process of moving a few to my son in law's new garage .. Smiley
(I hope I get them back).. Smiley
1280  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 07, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
*L* well Steve...    in the words of many a youngster...   'You made me look!'...   Smiley
there was one I could get to in my trunk (the one that was loose and which I'd laid in upside down.. helping me understand why I said 'dome down' in an earlier post!!~  Smiley     and after a little cleaning, I did see a '38'.. can't tell if more was there, but if that's a 'week of the year', then it corresponds very well with my 3rd week of September (69) build week.   I guess that will serve as my 'new Camaro information learned today'.. Smiley
1281  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposedly 302 Mustang 'Barn Find' on: January 07, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Gary ,  I have to ask : Was it difficult getting your Z down the basement steps ??  Cheesy Cheesy

Smiley  Jano, as you know, if one disassembles a car down into enough small parts, nothing is difficult.. Smiley

Or..  you can build the basement, drop the cars in, then build the house around/over it??  Smiley
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OR... you might have a 'drive in basement'..  as I do ..  (or sometimes, push in.. push out..  basement..)   Smiley
(the last photo is where I pushed it out one day, gave it a washing, then pushed it back in.. )  is this a 'garage find'?  *I* found it where I left it... Smiley
1282  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposedly 302 Mustang 'Barn Find' on: January 07, 2014, 01:25:54 PM
" one man's 'restored car' is another man's 'custom, modified, upgraded car"....   and

"One man's 'barn find' is another man's 'carefully cared for and preserved classic'..."   Huh   Smiley
1283  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help ! 69 without a protectoplate on: January 07, 2014, 01:16:46 PM
If the entire dash is exchanged, doesn't the VIN complete with star rivets go with it?   From what I've read so far, it sounds like that's a possibility..  but I agree that having *mismatched* VINs raises a HUGE red flag... people don't do that for no reason at all.... and most of the possibilities spell *ILLEGAL*...
1284  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 07, 2014, 10:12:11 AM
The ones in my car (one shown in a pix earlier) have never been removed, did not get much paint in the factory (if at all), and do not exhibit any rust at all, not even surface rust, and that is pretty amazing unless there is some type of very good anti corrosive used in the factory.   they do not appear to be zinc, and I agree that it doesn't really have the typical galvanize look either.. so what are the alternatives for the original anti corrosive coating?  phosphate? or ??
1285  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposedly 302 Mustang 'Barn Find' on: January 07, 2014, 12:23:05 AM
I wonder how many of the new 'barn find' trends we hear about are just plain exaggerated stories.
One day I'll post a picture of my 'garage find' (mine)....I have the now rotted flat tires (I put on the car in 1980) to prove it was sitting that long  Wink
Mike

I don't have a barn, but my Z28 has been sitting on the same Remington XT tires in my basement since 1980, and they never went flat.. and still *appear* good..  Smiley
1286  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 06, 2014, 10:18:50 PM
It appears galvanized to me.. and looks pretty correct.....
1287  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 06, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
JohnZ....    once again you've had to correct a 'quick statement' I made.. My apologies to anyone reading my error. 
My memory is such that I should have checked my photos made of my floor before posting..  Smiley    (but it was late last night - my only excuse).   
Attached below is a photo I extracted from a photo I made of my floor when cleaning... which clearly shows the concave side DOWN, (dome side up) as you stated..
1288  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: This is a nice original 69 Z28 on: January 05, 2014, 11:36:56 PM
I guess if the car came with a flat hood, I would throw it in the rafters and run a cowl. Then if I ever sold it, switch it back. IF it would garner me more money. I just love the special ducted hood. Cause as we all know NO 69' Camaro ever came with a COWL hood. The first one was on a Chevelle. Learned that from Jerry's book years ago.... Danny   Cool

it is debatable how much hp it developed, but again the marketing department and Chevrolet figured out that adding "Cowl induction" to the hood would sell more cars.
and from then on it was easier for the Camaro guys to call it a "cowl hood", then optional hood from the dealer.

Car guys knew the cowl area at the base of the windshield was a high pressure area, which was good to supply forced air to the carb,  and some called it that.  Camaros (and other cars) had done this for several years before 'chevy marketeers' placed the *obvious* nameplate on the hood of Chevelles and El Caminos.. Smiley     

..  Maybe Chevy should have put an emblem on the fenders and called them an 'aero wheel covering'?  *L*    We all know where GM's marketeers mostly keep their heads... don't we??  Smiley
1289  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New Z28 Pricing.... $75K??? on: January 05, 2014, 11:27:26 PM
Chances are that their target audience for the Z/28 already owns a Z06 and or a ZR1.

... that must be all of us..  right?   (tongue in cheek). Smiley
1290  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down? on: January 05, 2014, 11:26:09 PM
I have a new trunk floor and main floor and am wondering which way the six floor drain hole covers face? Does the the raised area in the middle of the drain hole cover face up....or down...or depend on which hole you are covering? Or does it depend on which direction the lip around the edge of the drain hole faces....up or down? My original floors and plugs are long gone and I don't remember.

All six drain holes in my original main and trunk floor were stamped with the lip around the edge facing down. On my repro floor, the drain holes in front of the front seats are stamped like the original, with the lip facing down.  The two drain holes in front of the rear seat are stamped with the lip facing up, however.
Each of the two drain holes in my new trunk floor have two screw holes at opposite corners. The other four holes do not.
So based on the info given, which way should I place my drain hole covers?....................And also, is it correct that each trunk floor cover is screwed in as well and seam sealed.....or should those holes not be there.

I'm not totally certain I understand what you are asking, but for certain the covers should 'lay in' the locations from above (ie. from inside the car) so they don't fall off/out.   The indentation should go 'down' from what I recall..  ie. should be convex from below, and concave from above.
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