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1276  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 06, 2013, 08:40:38 PM
Updating the Windshield Wiper Motor data list with CROB's info..  since he didn't do it himself..  Smiley
(and I noticed the Julian date code on his motor is about a month prior to car build date, and stickers were used as early as May)

Please add your information to the bottom of the chart and repost for the data point collection....

Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

       09C              NOR              Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                     N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
       06A               NOR             N         5045572                   N                      134      9     6      B

1277  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 'yellow light' AM/FM radio? on: August 06, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
This is also mentioned in John Hoopers book The 1969 Camaro reference book, along with how many were sold( 8271 yellow, vs 2359 blue). The yellow also had a different option number of RPO U69, and the blue was RPO U79. It might be a handy book to have in your library.
John Hoopers book covers some different aspects than Jerrys, I wouldn't say one is better than the other, most of the info is similar of coarse, but Hoopers book has some neat little tid bits, like the RS option added almost 30lbs to the curb weight of the car along with many other interesting options and facts. You may find it a good read as well.

I've had that book since it was first published, and I probably read it cover to cover way back, but obviously didn't pay enough attention to the am/fm radios, since my car only had the am... Smiley
1278  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 'yellow light' AM/FM radio? on: August 06, 2013, 07:56:09 AM
A few days ago, a friend suggested that there were yellow light am/fm radios, that may have been used part of the year on 1969 Camaros.   All I've ever heard or seen were blue light.   Is there any truth to that??
1279  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 05, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
Steve,

Add your data to the listing for all your motors, and add the additional column.   easier now than when the list is larger *G*
1280  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Heartbeat City reputation on: August 05, 2013, 08:33:48 PM
If I'm not mistaken, there is a company which makes a lot of these parts which has the name "REPOP"...    Repro' is a more appropriate abbrev for Reproduction, and REPLACEMENT parts are not necessarily 'reproduction' either, if they simply replace the intended function, without a concerted effort to replicate the look, mfg, etc as well.
1281  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 05, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
Updating the list with my assembly plant (NOR)...

Perhaps we can start off some data point collection, following on from Gary's chart?
If we can add the sticker details here, it may start to indicate a date range for sticker use....
Gary - I also added in column for final assembly plant.
Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

       09C              NOR              Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                     N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
1282  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Build sheet vs. "IBM" on: August 05, 2013, 04:07:59 PM
Gary, I editied my reply and added that info after I posted.

Ed

Thanks Ed... Smiley
1283  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Build sheet vs. "IBM" on: August 05, 2013, 01:44:16 PM
Ed,

In that 'clean copy' of the IBM card you referenced, I saw no evidence to document the equipment on the car, just the VIN... or did I miss the part with the engine/trans/etc.. ?
1284  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Build sheet vs. "IBM" on: August 05, 2013, 11:26:02 AM
Kurt identified the 'paper' found to be 'an ibm card', not the broadcast or build sheet?   and it definitely has the punch holes and cut corners of an ibm computer card.. BUT it seems to serve the same purpose as the build/broadcast sheet, in that it identifies the car and it's parts, and confirms it is an original car!  OR am I wrong?   
so given that this is a Norwood car, which supposedly NEVER had build sheets..  What is the possibility of finding such a card in an original car?  and where else besides under the carpet should we look?   How many cars have been found and identified via cRG as having such a card?
1285  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 05, 2013, 08:13:19 AM
I can only provide one data point for a data base.  
My original 09C (*Sept 17, 1969) Z28 / RS  has the silver pn sticker and date code on the wiper motor.  
photo is attached.   Sticker PN:  5045605,    also has '227   9   6   A' printed on it.
'227   9  ' might be the Julian date and year (15 Aug '69), which would correspond well to my mid Sept built car, but that's just a guess on my part.
If you begin a data collection on this, I'd suggest collecting the car build date, RS or not, PN on the sticker, along with the other data, and maybe we can begin to make sense of the information?   eg.

Car build date        RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

       09C                     Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A


1286  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Converting 69 Camaro 3 speed auto on the tree to 4 speed Questions on: July 30, 2013, 10:44:40 PM
with an auto column shift, it may also have had a 'bench seat'??  Did those items get used together?   Would a floor shift auto work with a bench seat?
1287  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification on: July 30, 2013, 12:06:03 PM
Yes, John, kinda sorta..  *L*...

'The 'rotating assembly' rotates in one direction, but the TORQUE on the engine itself is actually applied in the opposite direction when there is a load; that's why the engine TRIES to rotate in the clockwise direction (as viewed from the drivers seat)...    it's all in the terminology.. Smiley

and Ed's further explanation clarified that.

Gary
1288  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification on: July 29, 2013, 11:58:51 AM
Yes, Ed got turned around in his drivers seat, as this part of his post is incorrect..   Smiley
"Since the engine rotates clockwise (as seen from the front of the car (or counter-clockwise as seen from the drivers seat), "..   
but the remainder of his post, and the gist of his response, was correct..  Smiley
1289  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 original engine brackets and components on: July 29, 2013, 11:51:40 AM
I'm new to the CRG forum and have been soaking up all the restoration information that I can find.  I have a request for some of you 69 Z/28 owners.  PLEASE post some pictures of original plug wire stands, the skinny one on the RH side and the wider one on the LH side of the intake.  The brake hose bracket, that's beside the larger wire stand on the LH side.  I'm after the correct bend and shape and the proper markings or stamps that make them correct for a 69 Z/28.  From what I've read on the forum, my car, an 05A build date, would be too early for a fuel line bracket, Is this correct?  Is their any markings or stamps, codes, etc. that would identify an original 302 flat bottom cowl induction air cleaner?  I'm afraid my engine was a victum of the chrome monster, and that monster ate my original brackets, and air cleaner!!!  Thanks for any help!

Hello Bryan
Welcome to CRG, and it's good to know you're getting back into the Camaro restoration game... Smiley
I'll look for you Saturday in Athens...
1290  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fan Shroud on: July 28, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
a chemical that doesn't harm fiberglass or fiberglass bonding agent, might not be so harmless on a plastic or rubber part...  i'd be careful and do a test area before using it wholesale on non 'fiberglass, metal, or wood' materials.
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