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1261  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original 1969 standard grille on: September 23, 2013, 07:56:00 PM
Hey Lloyd, your bracket on the grill emblem looks to be installed wrong. Shouldn't it be flipped around? Was it this way on the RS grills?
I think Lloyd's emblem retainer is flipped and rotated, as it should be 'square' with the grill, and with the 'lips' registered around the grill bars.
1262  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rotisserie on: September 23, 2013, 01:46:59 PM

Here's one for sale on Craig's List.. Nashville, TN area..  $600

http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/3942713474.html
1263  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rotisserie on: September 23, 2013, 12:22:57 PM
you could make your own, build what you need for your car, and practice up on the welding at the same time.. Smiley
1264  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 69 Camaro and Firebird bucket seats? on: September 23, 2013, 07:46:50 AM
Except for the upholstery/covering, are there any differences between '69 Camaro and Firebird bucket seats?
1265  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z/28 firewall crayon marks, question? on: September 22, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
When I removed my front clip, I found the number '18' hand written on the side of the cowl 'shoulder' under the driver side fender.  I've no idea what that means, but I cleaned the crud off the area without removing the number written ON the painted surface... see photo.
1266  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte Autofair on: September 22, 2013, 01:31:03 AM
Phillip, Steve, and I all hooked up this afternoon for a few minutes, finally!    AND..  we were all wearing our CRG shirts...  I guess this could be called the first *assembly* of CRG members all decked out alike..  Smiley
1267  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte Autofair on: September 20, 2013, 07:59:19 PM
Phillip,

I looked in several places for you today..  information booths, main HNR tent, and finally the car corral (section 1?) where I wa told you'd be this afternoon, never found you, but made a few new friends looking for you.. Smiley

Man, that venue (charlotte motor speedway) is HUGE.. and once the sun came out this afternoon, it got bigger and hotter.   I had to get a cart ride out to the truck when we left this afternoon..   thought I was gonna need fluids via IV.. Smiley

Gary
1268  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: September 18, 2013, 11:04:06 PM
The plastic oil line was new repro,  I had to cut the plastic oil line to remove the compression nut the compression furl and the brass tube insert. Pushed the plastic line though the fitting and installed the brass tube insert into the end of the plastic tube, screwed the fitting in the female fitting, but still could not get the plastic tube to bite onto the fitting no matter now much I tighten the fitting.

Use a new compression ferrule and a new section of line.
1269  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: First time Camaro gen 1 buyer on: September 18, 2013, 11:02:55 PM
Others have indicated your TT date and the VIN do NOT match up in time... so if the VIN is the original one (ie. .. matches the hidden VINs), then the TT has been changed, but that  TT is basically a 'manufacturer's plate'..   same as that little plate on the back of most refrigerators, computers,e tc..  which identifies the model number, mfg, etc..   your car will run just FINE without a trim plate.. and it has nothing to do with ownership.  It's only critical if you are *showing* the car in original classes, or 'playing the matching numbers' game..  Smiley   

Note:  If it's true what was posted earlier, that your VIN was for a December built car, and your TT was a September date, then it seems beyond possible that they both were on that car from the factory.
What you should do is this:

1)  Check the hidden VINs against the title VIN and the displayed VIN on the car.   if these do not match, DO NOT THINK ABOUT purchasing this car.  you could pay good money for it, and then have another owner claim the car and you LOSE... everything..  car.. $$$$..  money everything.   You should suggest the current owner run the REAL VIN (the hidden VIN) with law enforcement to check if it's stolen (but DO NOT BUY IT).. Smiley

2)  IF the VIN's all match, assuring you that the title is the correct one for this car, and you are buying it from the titled owner, and if you like everything else about the car, then you might want to buy it...  you WILL be the legal owner per the VIN and title.

The TT has NOTHING to do with legal ownership.

PS.  Kurt indicated that he thought the VIN was probably changed, but that would indicate a STOLEN car.   IMO that's less likely that the TT was changed out.  LOTS of people change our the Trim Tag simply to make the car look more desirable (ie. take one from a September car and put it on your Dec car).  It's NOT a good thing, but it's not illegal, although it's unethical and immoral... and it's done to *fool* people (namely buyers).
1270  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: September 18, 2013, 10:37:16 PM
Assuming you've assembled the fitting correctly on the line, did you *reuse* the same piece of plastic line?  I typically reuse the line, but you may need to cut off the end part (that was cinched in the fitting previously) and use a new portion of the line for sealing.  Otherwise, it's purely in how the fitting is assembled, use a new compression seal, and don't overtighten initially.. put it snug (remember it's a small fitting and a plastic line), start the car to build pressure, and gradually tighten until the leak stops..  If you overtighten you will likely cause a leak.
1271  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: First time Camaro gen 1 buyer on: September 18, 2013, 09:58:25 PM
IMO, if the VIN and the trim tab date do not *align*, then it is much more likely that the Trim plate was changed, than the VIN.  it is against the law to change the VIN plate.   If you check the hidden VIN and it does not match the visible VIN plate, then there are *legal issues* with the car.    If the VINs match the hidden VIN, but the trim plate dates/etc doesn't line up, then it is likely that the trim plate has been changed to reflect a 'more desirable' model or set of options... which isn't illegal, but can drastically affect the value of the car.
1272  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte Autofair on: September 18, 2013, 09:51:50 PM
Thanks again Phillip!
We're heading out from Alabama at 6:30 am tomorrow morning..   should be there tomorrow afternoon and thru the weekend... 
We're looking forward to seeing the rest of you whom are attending..

(but this weekend we'll be driving a red GMC Sierra crewcab..   AL-47  plates)

Gary W.  / 69Z28-RS
1273  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Leaf spring removal on: September 18, 2013, 10:17:47 AM
Those bolts screw into a 'captive nut'.. which simply clips into the frame bracket.   The clip portion of the captive nut is much thinner metal and can rust away before the nut does.. and when the clip (that holds it in place) is rusted, then the nut (and whatever portion of the clip that remains) just 'spins' when you try to remove the bolt.  As someone said, remove the head of the bolt (without damaging the other parts) using a cut off wheel or hack saw or chisel?).. and go from there..
1274  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: First time Camaro gen 1 buyer on: September 18, 2013, 10:01:46 AM
Mr Byer,

I second what has been said before about getting as many photos as possible of the chassis, underneath, engine compartment etc.. AND talking to the current owner..  how long has he owned it, What work has he done on it, who did he get it from, where from?, etc..   ie. Find out as much as you can, and if you hear 'anything' that doesn't jive .. then be very careful.   If you like the photos, and the price, then take a knowledgable friend with you to serve as your 'consultant'..  Sometimes when we want something so badly we can 'taste it'..  we lose our perspective.. Smiley    The 'consultant/friend' will see the car much more objectively than you will.. Smiley

If you aren't sure about what you are seeing, or what you want, or what is 'correct' or not re an early Camaro, then I second/third what you've been told before re 'take some time on this site and the TC site'..  read all the posts... examine all the photos..   check out local Camaros for sale, find a club and go to club meetings..  etc..  in short.. LEARN all you can about these cars BEFORE you think seriously of purchasing a car.    With the price these cars can sell for, you can get seriously hurt (financially and emotionally) if you pay for a 'good car'.. and get something much less than that!
1275  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Need paintcode for 67 CC ermine white... on: September 18, 2013, 09:11:51 AM
If your source says the 'color' is no longer available in deltron..  check another source (maybe another state), OR check online sources?  I haven't checked for ermine while lately, but it's difficult to believe they can't mix it up...
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