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1246  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Need help on IDing a 69 RS-SS ??? on: September 07, 2013, 09:57:52 AM
That sounds like a potentially nice car.  Early cars (as the one under consideration is) did not have X codes, but it sounds like the evidence is there for an SS/RS.   Re the SS hood, you can check the back corner of the hood, corner nearest to the driver, on the rear most edge of the side of the hood on the area where the metal gets more narrow for a 1 or 2 digit numeral.    Originally installed factory hoods received a stamp there for the 'WEEK' of the year they were produced.   For your October car, you'd expect to find a date in the 20s to 40 range...  that would suggest your hood was installed on a Camaro in the factory, and not purchased OTC...  and if the hood has the same orange factory lacquer residue under the blue as the rest of the car, would again suggest it was installed on that particular car in the factory.   Since there's no hard proof, you have to take all the little things you can find and hope it 'adds' up to an SS/RS.  Good luck!

PS.  Attach some pix of the car when you can..
1247  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: original paint 69 Z on ebay... "survivor" on: September 07, 2013, 09:41:45 AM
Danny,

I inferred that from your statements that the 'stock' Z28 sat too low.   Original Z28s SAT LOWER.. check the specks!   I believe you've looked at too many restored cars with replacement springs (that do not match the factory specs).. that's understandable if that's all you've ever seen.   I suspect most younger enthusiasts that have seen lots more restored Camaros at shows than they have original cars would likely think that.
1248  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 NOR build sheet on: September 06, 2013, 10:26:20 PM
The reason I asked that question, when I removed the original carpet in my car a few years ago, I found an original ignition key (right under the steering column) with the code knockout intact..  it seemed to be 'fresh' and never used..  after thinking about it a second, wondering how it got there and then had the thought..   HEY.  the ignition is right above where I found it!    I tried the key in the ignition and EUREKA!!  *G*.   it fit.    and I assumed it fell out between the installation of the steering wheel/ignition, and the carpet install, and no one saw it (or cared?) *L*

when I replaced the original carpet in a '57 BelAir sedan I have had a long time, under the rear carpet I found a 'paint can sock'.. with drips of 'Harbor blue'.. (the color of the car)..  Apparently the painter tossed the sock in after painting the car, and what did they do?     "Carpeted right over it"..  *L*

Gary
1249  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: real tag? on: September 06, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
I did the calculations based on 21 production days in Dec '68, meaning 863/day..   Perhaps there was only 20 production days (extra day for Christmas?) in which case, Kelly's car would still have been 5 production days later.. ie.   6th day versus 1st day
1250  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 spiral shocks on: September 06, 2013, 04:54:37 PM
Let me guess...    $150 - $199 ea...
1251  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 CAMARO'S LEFT ON THE ROAD on: September 06, 2013, 12:21:55 PM
but..   factories are churning out NEW complete bodies for '69 Camaros......
1252  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 NOR build sheet on: September 06, 2013, 12:12:51 PM
I have not heard of any being found.  If there were to be found I would look under all seats between  the springs or even under the carpet.

Don't bother looking in the seats - they were installed by Fisher Body, long before the Broadcast Sheet was even printed.

Did Fisher or Norwood Assembly install the carpet and the steering column??
1253  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: real tag? on: September 06, 2013, 12:08:57 PM
based on uniform production rate, VIN xxxx N552638 would have been produced on the 1st production day of December (Monday, 2 Dec) whereas Kelly King's VIN xxxx557961 would have been produced either the 6th or 7th production day of December (9 or 10th), a week later, so if they were really hustling that first week or December, (to make up for the Thanksgiving day they missed?).. maybe Kelly's car was produced a day or so earlier than would have been expected - to put them into the same production week?   
1254  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: original paint 69 Z on ebay... "survivor" on: September 05, 2013, 12:06:28 AM
The ride height looks very correct to me (for a Z28), and I drove/rode/played with many when they were NEW, in '68 and '69 up thru '72 and later.   Danny, if you don't like 'stock survivor cars', find yourself one that someone has 'restored'.... Smiley
1255  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: September 03, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
If I interpreted your values correctly, the difference seems to be about 0.020"  (20 thousandths) between the known untampered with 487 and the suspect 499 in the area of the stamped numbers?    I think that is MORE than 'crud/dirt'.. and probably is sufficient to remove the original numbers...
1256  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: original paint 69 Z on ebay... "survivor" on: September 03, 2013, 09:56:22 AM
THAT is a gym dandy car...  Smiley   I love it.     I hope someone buys it who appreciate it for what it IS.. and not what it 'might be'...
1257  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 DZ BLOCK OR NOT... on: September 02, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
A correct 'CE' warranty replacement engine for any GM/Chevrolet car, is better than any other replacement engine possible (IMO) as far as "originality" is concerned.  It's NOT the factory original engine, but it's what the manufacturer did to 'correct a mfg deficiency'.. (which is what a warranty replacement does)...
1258  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 DZ BLOCK OR NOT... on: September 02, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
I agree with Tom; the DZ on the block only means something IF it is THE original engine for your car (from the factory)... otherwise, it's just a 'stamp'.   If you love the characteristics of the 302 engine, then build yourself a 'functional replacement', and forget the 'DZ' code.   
1259  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Wiring on: September 01, 2013, 09:04:14 PM
Around 1978, I saw a young lady driving a '69 Pacer, so I turned around, followed her til she parked it, and got the tag number.   At that time, one could call the motor vehicle dept with the tag number and get the owner info.   I called and spoke to her father, a local MD.  When I mentioned the Camaro, he asked..  'What did she do now'?  *L*.  I told him I had no idea, but I liked the car.  He told me she'd had a bunch of tickets in it, and he would sell it for $2000.   I talked to my wife, tried to talk her into it for her daily driver car as my '69 Z28 was orange/black with the pacer interior, and I thought it would make a nice 'sister/wife' car to my Z28..   but she (wife) refused to consider it, and at that time, I had no room or budget for another car to just 'sit'....   but I sure wish I'd bought it!  Smiley
1260  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Hemmings Muscle Machine of the Year on: September 01, 2013, 12:40:40 AM
Yours being the ONLY Camaro in the list, we don't really have a choice do we? *G*   Smiley   It sounds like a great car...
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