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1231  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New Z28 Pricing.... $75K??? on: January 14, 2014, 10:05:57 PM
Don't they always say that for the most extreme/most expensive cars?  My daughters father in law just bought a 3000 mile 2009 ZR1 (listed well over 100K).  The car is perfect in and out and under hood.  Looks like it rolled off the truck for cleanup and he paid $70K... 
1232  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 14, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Tim, i uncovered the Z and it has a sealed beam identical to the one you have, the one that does not say "DOT" i will post a pic, the font is the same too. it`s even on the same side of the car, passenger side  Smiley  so maybe it`s factory, hard to say but being the T3`s and Powerbeams say guide most likely not ? food for thought i guess being 2 z28`s have them.

Let's see..    TWO Z28s with the same type of replacement HL bulbs?   After only 45 yrs?... and a bit over 20,000 '69 Z28s?    and a small handful of manufacturers who made these bulbs over that time frame??    hmmmmmmm...   quite a coincidence..  Smiley

Just a bit 'tongue in cheek', tim..   My only point is that unless you bought the car NEW, suppositions about headlamps after 45 years don't mean too much.   I remember having to replace headlamp bulbs in cars a year or two old at times.... and generally bought whatever the local store had..
1233  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: January 14, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
That looks like an exhaust manifold (on a '69 small block engine) that has a significant amount of engine paint on it....??
1234  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: chevrolet script on: January 14, 2014, 03:54:54 PM
As a  small boy watching my dad and his brother work on dad's 59 Impala.   His Impala had the Chevrolet painted on the valve covers;
and I recall thinking, "I wonder how they painted that on there, to look so good."

Did you ever figure out how they did it?   and it would have to be quick and cheap too....  Smiley
1235  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: chevrolet script on: January 14, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
Sorry John, Ed,

I read that as '50's..  I'm old AND blind..  Sad
1236  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: chevrolet script on: January 14, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
The "Chevrolet" script on the standard stamped steel valve covers was painted a contrasting color at some points during the mid- to late 50's; photo below is the engine dress line at the Tarrytown, New York assembly plant in 1959.

John, that's better 'evidence' than any I've seen before, but I sure wish I knew what year that was..  or that the pix was high enough resolution to see more engine detail that might answer than question..   the file name of 'EngDressTT59800'  Is there a possibility that the 598 was a date?  ie. August of '59? or ?  What would be your opinion as to the year?
1237  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 14, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
Tim, i uncovered the Z and it has a sealed beam identical to the one you have, the one that does not say "DOT" i will post a pic, the font is the same too. it`s even on the same side of the car, passenger side  Smiley  so maybe it`s factory, hard to say but being the T3`s and Powerbeams say guide most likely not ? food for thought i guess being 2 z28`s have them.

Let's see..    TWO Z28s with the same type of replacement HL bulbs?   After only 45 yrs?... and a bit over 20,000 '69 Z28s?    and a small handful of manufacturers who made these bulbs over that time frame??    hmmmmmmm...   quite a coincidence..  Smiley
1238  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New Z28 Pricing.... $75K??? on: January 13, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
Wait a year and save up your money..   then in another 6 months or a year, that car will be 'old news'..  it's all part of Chevy's marketing plan.  Smiley   very similar to the computer industry..  each new model has *jsut enough* 'new' to make one want to buy it.  *G*
1239  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: chevrolet script on: January 13, 2014, 10:21:45 PM
Was the script on the valve covers painted anything but orange from the factory...I've seen several painted black or silver....is this just a personal touch?
Never saw any painted other than orange, originals that is! Smiley

In the classic chevy world ('55, '56, '57 Chevys), some restorers do 'paint' the raised script on a painted stamped valve cover either silver or black (depending on the year).   My take is this, and I've judged at the internationa conventions several years, both NNC, CNA, and CCCI.
1) I've never seen an *original* car with such script painted.
2) When I've asked 'why' they do it, the only 'justification'/reason I've ever heard are photos in the big Chevrolet Dealer manuals for the various years, and in those photos, the scripts DO appear either 'lighter' or 'darker' than the remainder of the vc, depending on the manual being viewed.

My own *take* from viewing those same photos is that the apparent different shades
 are due to the lighting when those pictures were made, and which parts of the vc were 'shining' or glinting with the flash.  The other point I'd make is that Chevrolet (nor any manufacturer) would spend the time to 'paint' the raised script on any part of the engine like that... and they didn't do that for all 2 million plus Chevrolets built in each of those years.
1240  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: might want this in database for future build on: January 12, 2014, 10:08:23 PM
a Rallye Green X33 car..  mindful of the similar situation from 2 or 3 yrs ago.... 
1241  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Subframe markings? on: January 12, 2014, 01:13:46 PM
Here is Van Nuys 04A, unrestored original paint, yellow numbers on my car were a date code 3-26-69. Notice drips and runs from dip paint on frame. Restored cars should copy this and not be smooth!:


Oaklys,  is that marking on your LH (drivers side) front subframe rail??  under where the bumper bracket mounted?
1242  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay... What a Car! on: January 12, 2014, 12:22:26 PM
It all looks *real* from the pictures, and a pretty nice restoration.. and the PTB stamps should clean off pretty easily.. Smiley
I like it... a *real* Z28.. nicely kept, good paperwork, and looks very good.  (these cars were not perfect from the factory!~)..
1243  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Silver Z pictures from 1971 with second owner on: January 12, 2014, 12:08:48 PM
looks like a base pass.
That's what it appears to be to me also, Jano....
1244  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: reproduction spark plug wires on: January 11, 2014, 03:20:32 PM
Installation of Headers was the largest driver towards most of us using solid-core wires, with silicone insulators.. and whatever kind of plug wire separators allowed keeping them away from the headers...
1245  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Yahoo article about a Camaro ZL1 totaled on: January 11, 2014, 09:38:55 AM
.. reading more about John Hooper's ZL1 situation, led me to THIS site..  for some VERY expensive auto wrecks.. Smiley
http://autos.yahoo.com/photos/infamous-exotic-and-high-performance-car-wrecks-slideshow/
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