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1231  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: If Anyone is Interested in a 67 Pace Car on: January 23, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
Glad he's not into 69's. Grin

That's because everyone owns a 69.   Tongue

Nope, not everyone..  only the most discriminate of us..  Smiley
1232  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: who do you all get body parts from? on: January 23, 2014, 10:07:46 PM
No i havent called anyone yet,  im still stripping the car, and my list keeps growing..
you all can just call me tom hanks like in the movie money pit Sad

Kerr,  if you have told us, I missed it.   Where are you located?  Maybe one of the more body-experienced folks on the site are close enough to come check it out and give you some advice?   Suggest where to get parts, etc...
1233  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rosewood Wheel on Ebay on: January 23, 2014, 09:48:12 PM
Here's the best pix of mine I could find in a hurry.... Smiley
1234  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 23, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
and I thought those Corvette owners didn't like to get their hands dirty... Grin

... Smiley..   *some* Corvette owners are simply putting on a show, but there are many more Corvette owners who are 'typical Car guys'.. Smiley
1235  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: engine block 3782870 9x3157 on: January 23, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
Thanks gentlemen!
 Back in '65, were Canadian blocks suffix-coded any differently than U.S. blocks?

If you mean McKinnon-built engines, no - the only difference was the first character (it was a "K" instead of "F" or "T").

OK John, you've taught me something new again.. Smiley   Until now, I've known *nothing* about a Canadian engine foundry for Chevy.  What years were Chevy engines built at McKinnon?  I've never seen an engine so marked... (perhaps because I've always lived in the southern US, and never seen a Canadian built 'old' Chevy)...  but being the curious sort, I did a little search and found several references to the McKinnon plant, and this entry on 'GM plants', which had quite a bit of detail on McKinnon Industries.

Incidentally, for those of you as unfamiliar as I was on McKinnon, it is located in the St Catherines, ON area (which lies somewhat between Toronto and Buffalo, NY.   I've excerpted some of the 'engine related entries from that weblink above, as follows:

1952: The foundry was officially opened having the largest and most modern malleable and grey iron foundry in the British Commonwealth. [CLOSED END OF 1995]
1953: Contract to build an Engine Plant at this site was released on March 31st.
1954: V-8 engines for Chevrolet, Pontiac, and Oldsmobile Rocket engines were made and assembled in the newly completed Engine Plant.
1963: McKinnons acquired the Windsor Engine Plant. Inline 6 cylinder production was transferred to St. Catharine's with local transmission production transferred to Windsor.
1966: Engine Plant tooled for '327' CID VS Engines.
1967: Engine Plant tooled for '307' CID VS Engines (dropped 6 cylinder)
1968: V-8 capacity increased to 2,400 Engines/Day
1969: Engine Plant tooled for '350' CID VS 2/4 Barrel (dropped '283'). McKinnon Industries changed from subsidiary status to become General Motors of Canada Limited, St. Catharine's.
1970: Engine tooled for 100% '350' CID VS (dropped '307, 327')
1971: V-8 Engine capacity increased to 2,600 Engines/Day.
1975: Engine Plant began producing '350' and '305' CID VS production with full flexibility.
1978: Approved to manufacture '267' Cu. In. V-8 at 1,400/Day.
1979: Corporation approval to manufacture V6 60 2.8L Engines at 1,600/Day and V-8 4.4 & 5.0 Litre ('267' and '305' CID) Engines for 1982.
1980: Capacity increase on '267' CID Engines from 1,400 - 1,800/Day.
1981:  Corporate approval to provide R.W.D. V6 600 engine flexibility.
there was lots more in that article on this plant from the early 1920 thru the 1990's.. but I only excerpted the 'engine related' notes above.   They also made many other car parts in that facility over the years.
1236  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 23, 2014, 03:31:49 PM
I have seen many guys with original cars from may, june july and august state they still had the original 4 clip design. Enough guys, that it seems more likely they were original to the car, than somebody went and located the 4 clip and swapped out the finger design. Just my 2 cents.
My original 09C Z28 which I purchased in 1976 had the 4-clip covers on it when purchased; they had the normal dings/scrapes in them, so I tried to purchase new ones (but the 4-clip design was not available in the 15x7 size at that time so I chose not to buy the 'wrong ones').  The 'finger style' trim ring WAS available OTC during those years, as that was what they were installing on the '73 to '77 MonteCarlos (all having 15x7 wheels), and El Caminos/Chevelles with 15x7 rallyes.   I purchased a new '77 MC, and sometime in the late '70's, I actually swapped the trim rings between my MC and the Z28 (because the MC trim rings were like new and I wanted the 'best looking' ones on my Camaro.. Smiley.  Fortunately, I traded them back before I sold the Monte Carlo.

It's interesting that during that same period, Corvette trim rings (15x8 size) ALL had the 4-clip style, both on new Corvettes, and OTC.  I have a set of them that I bought around 1977 when I put Corvette 15x8 wheels on my Z28 (temporarily) until the front fender scrubbing got to be too much for me.  IF the 15x7 rings with 4-clips had a tendency to 'fall off', then why did ALL the larger 15x8 Corvette wheels have that same 4-clip design from the late '60s thru the mid-late '70's???  I suspect they began to use the finger design on the higher production cars - MC and Chevelles etc - in the '70s because the 4-clip designs are more difficult for owners to remove... Smiley
1237  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1967 Trans-Am season review on: January 23, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
'wine, women, and race cars....  Smiley      What could be better?  Smiley
The program cover... brought back memories of that time... Smiley
1238  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay... What a Car! on: January 23, 2014, 09:41:18 AM

Yes, it should be...  Smiley
1239  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: engine block 3782870 9x3157 on: January 23, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
All engines were built in Tonawanda, NY or Flint, MI as far as I know.. no difference for Canadian (although, there was an old wives tale?? back in the sixties that late 50's (1959 283) blocks had thicker water jackets than otherwise, but have no idea if this was true, or for what reason if it was..?)

Block:     3782870   1962-1967        327     car & Truck 2-bolt  (date B 4 5    - Feb 4, 1965)
Intake:    3866922   1962-1965      283/327     4-Brl WCFB           (date A 9 5 - Jan 9, 1965 could be original to the block)
Carb:       7025131       1975-1979                   Rochester QJ         

(QJ Not original to the block or intake - in fact, has a different throat than wcfb and without an adapter wouldn't work on intake)
1240  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: SPANISH CAMARO COMMERCIAL on: January 22, 2014, 10:26:38 PM
that's a very nice video..  Thanks for sharing.. Smiley
1241  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 Muncie Transmission tag (pn?) on: January 22, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
Yes, rear is a BU (3.73:1 ratio)...
1242  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Little Pissed of the Coverage on Barrett Jackson on: January 22, 2014, 09:36:31 PM
Hemmings Motor News had a little blurb on it a few days ago, but didn't id the buyer that I saw....
1243  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: engine block 3782870 9x3157 on: January 22, 2014, 09:33:35 PM
Sounds like a 1965 block.  What is the casting number? 

I believe the 3782870 is his block casting number...  (from the subject line)...
1244  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rosewood Wheel on Ebay on: January 22, 2014, 11:49:42 AM
It appears to be 'walnut' coloring to me as well.  Weren't some of the reproductions colored like that?
1245  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: If Anyone is Interested in a 67 Pace Car on: January 21, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
that's funny.....       Smiley
If I'm going to be rated on 'engaging' and 'accurate'..  I need to double/triple check my posts from now on before I send them.. Smiley
JohnZ has a great capability and a nice tendency to correct most of our error posts, so maybe that makes us (me?) a little bit more careless?  Smiley
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