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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: What's the correct Alternator bracket for a 69 Z/28 on: August 21, 2014, 09:23:01 PM
I am certainly not positive about this, but since automatic cars did not require SMOG, and straight shifts did, the different brackets might have been to compensate for the thickness of the smog bracket, that I believe used the same fastener (if present)??   Is this why some cars have to have a 'spacer washer' depending on their configuration??
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 04D 14x7 rally wheel trim ring & center caps on: August 21, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
Are they 14x7 YJ Coded Rims? If they are the four outer clips are incorrect.

Why do you think that?  and what do you think is correct?
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Broadcast sheets on: August 18, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
I also think what Jerry is suggesting would be a good idea in this case...
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: custom striped Z I saw this weekend on: August 18, 2014, 11:22:58 AM
'lace stripes'? *G*    I haven't seen those in awhile.      Smiley
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: front coil springs for L-89 with alum heads on: August 18, 2014, 11:14:40 AM
.. and Coil Spring Specialties is a company that will wind springs to your specifications that some of us have used...  Smiley

http://www.coilsprings.com/
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: front coil springs for L-89 with alum heads on: August 17, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
As jano stated earlier, a big block with aluminum heads weighs very close to the same as an iron head small block of the same era, but this is not enough to choose the proper coil springs.   In the 'service manual' (I think?) is a table that shows that the actual spring depends on many variables, that includes not only the engine used, but also other options which add (or reduce) weight of the car on the front end.   Check that table...  Use the Z28 column, and add/subtract as the table says for the options your car has..  that should get you close... to the correct spring as would have been used by the factory.

The spring rate charts are also provided via CRG:   

 http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#spring

7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Research history of 67 camaro on: August 16, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
if you aren't sure of your knowledge, I'd suggest you consider purchase of:
1)  A completely original unrestored car; these are the most 'honest' cars because you can 'see' all the problems and history ..
2)  If you want a restored car, then choose a restorer you are confident in, and ask him/her for advice, or to point you to a car that they know to be a good one.   Get involved in a local car club.. listen and learn for awhile until you know the people, then ask the right ones for advice or guidance on finding a good car.   

There are MANY cars which are 'called' restored or restified or rebuilt, but many are done by people with perhaps even less knowledge than you, and their problems might be hidden under 'new paint'.. etc.. and can be difficult to ascertain on purchase.  Those kinds of cars are the ones I'd be most cautious about..  Read the thread on the '69 purchased by KERR... and you'll get an idea of what I'm talking about..

Gary
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 DG rallys on: August 16, 2014, 11:18:47 AM
I believe JohnZ is thinking of "DF" rally wheels.

http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Wheels

Paul

OR..     67 Corvette 15x6 Rallyes..  which had the DC code...  ?   Smiley
.. and if I'm recalling correctly, JohnZ once owned a nice '67 Corvette coupe with rallyes..  Smiley
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Research history of 67 camaro on: August 15, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
Just to add a little more and I'm sure everyone hates this question but I'm just trying to determine what a good price is. I'm looking at 67 camaro it's not numbers matching and I'm not looking for a trailer queen. The vin indicates it was originally a straight 6 but it has since been restored with 396 engine, Muncie 4 speed, and 12 bolt Posi. Several other items have been upgraded too. My only concerns are the doors have more gaps on both sides then I've typically seen and the door hinges need to be replaced bc you have to lift slightly to close. Also, the trunk isn't flush when closed. Trunk sits about qtr inch higher. Owner claims it's the seals. Could the quarter panels just not have been welded evenly? Car is going for 30k and I just don't know what a car of this caliber is really worth. Owner claims many new upgrades but like I mentioned before, he's just judging from what he's looking at. Here is the link for info and pictures http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/4604858288.html

I would think you could buy a decent, all original car for $30K....  ps.  it is not *restored* if all the parts have been exchanged.   'Restored' is short for 'Restored to Factory Original Condition'.. and the one you describe has not been.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 15, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
Thats to bad about the economy, and Camaro performers going under. I know Romney would have been more accountable, but it still would have been tough to get the economy humming again. I am interested to see who becomes the front runner to go against Hilary. Think of all the publications that have gone under though, newsweek, and the news papers in general are struggling. Maybe the next candidate can run on a platform of bringing back (the economy)& all the great car publications!

its shameful that it doesn't matter anymore  (about the economy re our elections), but it doesn't..   Less than half the voters *care* about the economy; the majority lives on the largesse of the gov't.. and will continue voting for their 'freebies'...  Sad      we are on a steep downhill slide as a country.... and it sickens me.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 15, 2014, 11:25:44 AM
Hurst Competition/Plus U.S. PAT. NO. 3216274  Shifter with the "3138" stamp.  Anyone know exactly what the 19D52P stands for ?..a date of some sort ?  I tried researching and found different opinions as to what it is.  Huh  and seen this number to be different on about every shifter.  Some with more numbers and some with only 1 letter among the numbers.  A date to me makes no sense as I've seen no consistency in this number/letter system.... unless I'm missing something.

Your shifter was built by Hurst during January of 1969...    Smiley     The code '19D52P' is a manufacturer's serial number that has the month/yr of production coded into the first 2 (or 3) characters.    first number 1 is month (January), 2nd number (9) is for the year..

Ref:   http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11380.msg89790#msg89790

Hey thanks Gary.  So that's good since that falls into place as well.  Do you have any idea on the lever and rod numbers ?

Thanks again  Smiley

I can't provide exact verification of the rods, but I *think* you are probably OK on them (except for the blue wire 'clip'). Smiley     Your rods appear to have similar bends as my rods, although I can't say for sure the middle length rod (and that might be due to the angle of your/my photos)..
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 15, 2014, 11:06:03 AM
Hurst Competition/Plus U.S. PAT. NO. 3216274  Shifter with the "3138" stamp.  Anyone know exactly what the 19D52P stands for ?..a date of some sort ?  I tried researching and found different opinions as to what it is.  Huh  and seen this number to be different on about every shifter.  Some with more numbers and some with only 1 letter among the numbers.  A date to me makes no sense as I've seen no consistency in this number/letter system.... unless I'm missing something.

Your shifter was built by Hurst during January of 1969...    Smiley     The code '19D52P' is a manufacturer's serial number that has the month/yr of production coded into the first 2 (or 3) characters.    first number 1 is month (January), 2nd number (9) is for the year..

Ref:   http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11380.msg89790#msg89790
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 15, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
I have seen rolls of 'Obama wipe' for sale lately you can use in the 'Library'  Grin

Mike

That's probably the only thing carrying his name that might provide any satisfaction......  or thoughts of a job well done..  Smiley
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Swapping a 700R 4 into a 67 on: August 14, 2014, 11:08:06 PM
I agree with Steve..    the 200 is the way to go.. Smiley
I'm in the market for one myself..  for my Nomad..
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 14, 2014, 12:27:05 AM
Since the Fan Clutch was painted orange  Huh  I guess this will be hard to tell if it's the original or not.  Also I didn't see anything stamped other than the word "EATON".  Look at the 4th pic,  "EATON" is stamped into the body.  Could this possibly be a replacement also ?  Not sure what I have here but it looks identical to what an original should look like  Huh

BTW..all those following,  I'm heading back across the state Saturday morning after the tub of other parts I left behind... LIKE 1/2 THE DANG GONE ENGINE !  There was the Alt and brackets, crank pulley, Smog pump set up, Exh Manifolds, Dist., Water pump, pulley and Timing cover.. I believe that's it.  Only want to make this drive once more !

The fan clutch would have had an 'inked' date code and I think also an app code on it from the factory.   You *might* be able to carefully clean off the orange paint and try to retain the ink stamps underneath..?
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