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1  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Bill Thomas /race cars on: November 22, 2014, 11:50:33 PM
Always something interesting. I love these old ads. How some of the innovation forged ahead, and some passed.

I've never seen it mentioned on this site or anything remotely recent pertaining to the Camaro's history. Years ago I read an article stating much of the Camaro's

Just look at the '65 and later Corvair side by side with the first gen Camaro...  the similarity in 'body lines' is obvious...  I think initially, Chevrolet wanted the Corvair to be their 'pony car' entry, but Nadar-crap pooped in that cereal.   
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Ron Pratte collection on: November 21, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Based on past information that surfaced, the two 'key statements' re the '69 Rallye Green Z28  (that Ron Pratte paid $125,000 for it IIRC...)

1. Documentation has been certified by Jerry MacNeish.     IIRC, the documentation IS an original set of documents from a '69 Z28..  Smiley

2. Car was restored with all GM sheet metal,         
Every inch GM sheet metal from NOS or 'other' cars - No sheet metal from that specific VIN ..except for the VIN plate and 'numbers' pieces?  Smiley

It's a very nice car, just NOT what was stated by Barrett Jackson when Pratte bought it, AND not what is implied in the current advertising.
I'd call it a super nice 'Recreation' of an original '69 Z28...
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67-9 Fuel lines on: November 21, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
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You mean they actually made Camaros before 69!!???!!   Roll Eyes   Grin
...

GM was 'practicing' ..  to make sure they got it right by 1969....  Smiley
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: amazing 69 Chevelle SS true survivor on: November 20, 2014, 01:59:42 PM
Ok, but as you get closer to getting your Z back on the road are you looking to re-install them?

Of course...  Smiley
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Who makes most accurate Spark Plug Wire sets? Also heartbeats transveres Muffler on: November 19, 2014, 08:22:15 PM
Well Ricks have a muffler, but admit to it not being 100% correct. Camaro Central has one, but I don't know how correct it is... If somebody could tell me, that would be great. Cause they are ALOT cheaper than HB. I don't know if HB's is 100% correct either. However they have the best visual and measurements so far. Did a big search and found many pro-flow- and flow master and others... all incorrect of course. If you got a place I am open to suggestions... Plug me in  Grin... Danny

Check with the D&R fellas....
http://www.drclassic.com/catalog/Camaro/Exhaust/Z00086-R.html
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Who makes most accurate Spark Plug Wire sets? Also heartbeats transveres Muffler on: November 19, 2014, 04:26:13 PM
You're not looking very hard if you can't find the exact same items Heartbeat has for less $.....
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: amazing 69 Chevelle SS true survivor on: November 17, 2014, 12:34:14 PM
Bullitt wrote:
"It looks to much like a circus mobile for me to drive around with all the reflectors and such.  Cheesy"....

oh come on Austin..   that would be a good persona for you..  Smiley 

PS. I wish I had a good pix of my Z28 with the little 'fender protector shields' ie. mudflaps,  to show you.....  Smiley

Gary
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Chambered exhaust change out on: November 17, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
Scott,

Some of the hangars are different....  but they should all mount to the floor or framemember in the same locations and use the same holes.   Should not be an issue if it's all stock.

Gary
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Chambered exhaust change out on: November 15, 2014, 10:38:13 PM
This is probably the best deal on a stock exhaust system for the '69 Camaro....
http://www.drclassic.com/catalog/Camaro/Exhaust/Z00088.html
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Are these Chambered Pipes for Camaro or Chevelle or ?? on: November 14, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
They are not like the Camaro pipes.....   
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Lost 1969 DZ on: November 14, 2014, 01:47:52 PM


My friend without a VIN or known engine stamp, I am unsure how you would even be able to recognize the car now.
 I would say your looking for a needle in a haystack, but its more like a needle in haystack full of needles. There are so many cars without there original motors in them now, the guy that ended up with your car may have realized it was a JL8 car and re-stamped a block to look correct by now, or at least a correctly dated replacement. I would go back and look for some old registration, and then do a state to state VIN look up to locate where it might be registered. Good luck!

If it was stolen, then either the car was parted out and partially or totally, OR someone slapped a different VIN on the body to register it...  If it was registered in the VIN of the stolen car, surely even inept law enforcement would have discovered that way back when...?   To have any chance at all of finding either the engine or the body, he would need the original VINs of each.. and even then the possibility is very thin....
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: November 11, 2014, 08:40:53 AM
I am almost certain the originals were amber colored glass; I painted one of mine in the '70's when I couldn't find a correct amber colored one.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Chevrolet dealer location on: November 10, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
You're looking for Zone 6 Dealer 114 (at the time your car was built).. correct?  1969?   If your delivering dealer still has the same ownership/location/name, AND if the Parts Distribution Warehouse location has not changed since 1969, then that Zone/Dealer would still exist and be current...  but.. like most companies, GM changes it's structure and makeup periodically.

Note:  Zone numbers changed when the supplying GM Parts Distribution Warehouse location changed for the region (and I suspect the region boundaries changed as well when that happened.   The dealership that delivered my car, had it's 'Zone #' changed 3 times since 1969, as the Parts Distribution Warehouse location was changed from Birmingham (Zone 31), to Atlanta, then to Dallas, and lastly to Jackson MS (if I recall correctly).  The zone number changed from 31 to 12 to 8 (again if I recall the zone numbers correctly).
14  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: The Vince Piggins Camaro on: November 10, 2014, 10:16:49 AM
I work with a older friend that back in 1970 went to the dodge dealer to get a 383 or 440 challenger but ended up walking out with a 340 T/A, they were hugely discounting it because nobody wanted the 340 including himself.
But after basically offering to sell it for cost to him he could not pass the deal up. He said it was actually a super fast car and never regretted buying it and of course now regrets ever selling it.

I'd have much preferred a 340 (esp a six pak) over a 383 or 440...  but a friend of mine bought a new T/A in '70.. his car would just nip my '70 RR in the 1/4... but a few months later, he traded the 340 sixpak engine to another USAF bud for the Hemi in his '66 Satellite!   We spent a while changing out the K member and rebuilding the Hemi before it went into the Challenger TA body.. Smiley   I often wonder how long my friend (Boyd Cochran) kept that Challenger TA with the Hemi.. he was from the LA area of California, but that has to be a very unique TA.. Smiley
15  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: The Vince Piggins Camaro on: November 10, 2014, 09:04:40 AM
I was shopping for a '69SS396 Chevelle  (for several months) during the '69 model year, and although I wasn't shopping for a Camaro at the time, I don't recall seeing any/many Z28's sitting in showrooms, and I probably visited 6-8 different dealerships in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama over that period.  I'm guessing that either the Z28s were special ordered, or were purchased very quickly upon delivery to dealerships.  Two friends bought '69 Z28's for SCCA racing purposes; one special ordered his, the other bought one that the person ordering it decided not to purchase it on delivery.

PS.  Another thing the Z28 had going for it was the 290 hp rating; Most insurance companies charged a large premium for cars over 300 hp, esp to young drivers - and I suspect that was the primary reason that the Z28's, Boss302, AAR/TA Chrysler cars, etc had 290 hp ratings even though carguys knew the hp was actually much higher.
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