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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: May 1968 trim tag irregularities on: September 16, 2014, 10:05:31 PM
There is a problem with may & june production number # because may numbers show twice as many build as any other month on Norwood cars. Have a 06a car with that starts with 449---. Have a one owner 06b car that starts with 453---.
Well, there's asterisks next to the data and this statement is in bold on the page: "The data for some months (especially May and June 68 at Norwood) deviate significantly from actual build dates,....."

If Kurt thinks the Data from NCRS is confusing, I would suggest you have it rechecked by NCRS for accuracy, mistakes are often times easy to make reading microfiche digitization's.

Roy, I sent a detailed email re my incorrect report, and I never heard anything...  no response at all..   Seems the 'new folks' doing that job are not as conscientious as you...
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Ebay gas cap on: September 16, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Thats the trouble with buying NOS parts.  NOS parts are not production parts, 90% of the time they are functionally equivalent parts that might fit 3 or 4 different car lines but are factory correct for none of them.

My terminology for that kind of part is NOR or NOSR, for New, Old-Stock, Replacement....   
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Fuel pumps on: September 15, 2014, 11:36:50 AM
That's a good question, I approached it last year with no luck. Was looking for the GPM on a stock/replacement pump.

You won't find a GPM rating chart - the number on the pump is primarily for the pump configuration, essentially the bottom half; where are the inlet and outlet, which way do they point, are they clamped or threaded joints, etc. Shop Manual calls for the same volume for the same time for all pumps.

John:  You said 'primarily' for configuration; Does that mean that if there's a PN difference, that there's some difference in the I/O configuration alignment, orientation, or fitting size/type?  OR is there something else to know about this?   
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: September 15, 2014, 09:58:59 AM
I've been doing this stuff for over 40 yrs, and the techniques I have used were the ways I learned around age 20, they 'worked', and I never had reason to 'find a way to do it better'... Smiley, BUT I want to thank John for attaching Lars' paper.  It is EXCELLENT.. and I learned a couple of things that I will use next time I do this job!!

If a 'new Chevy guy' learns and follows the methods described... he should never encounter any insurmountable issues with distributor timing on an old Chevy V8... Smiley

Danny:   READ and HEED Lars' paper...

Thanks again JOHNZ!!  Smiley
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: September 13, 2014, 07:37:40 AM
OUTSTANDING, Danny...    you can believe that we are all smiling hugely for you.. Smiley
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Earliest vin by the oil filter. on: September 12, 2014, 11:50:52 PM
My 12A L78 original block is stamped on the pad; the 12B L78 spare block I own is stamped above the oil filter. In between those two build weeks, I would guess. Dunno if it would differ between small or big blocks - I severely doubt it.

By the way, the location of the cast date codes on these two "272" blocks differs as well - one is above the pan rail on the side of the block, one is above the bellhousing flange at the upper rear of the block. Just thought I'd throw that in -

Regards,
Steve 

Is your spare block from a Camaro, Steve??
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: September 12, 2014, 05:51:01 PM
typically those kind of numbers are a date code..might be week of the year (although the 55 example says NO to that), most probably is the Julian date...  or possibly a mold number?

The PN is the 7 digit code..  FK might indicate the manufacturer, and the following number the date code or mold number.
If they're Julian dated then I'd be happy with that.  The 46 would be Feb 15 (Sat) and 55 would be Feb 24 (Mon)  I could live with that.  Smiley
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The dates might be good, but IMO, your bumpers need replacing...  Smiley  PS.   I've been told when you need to do necessary safety related updated to your car, put the original parts in a bag and keep them.... Smiley
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: September 12, 2014, 05:49:09 PM
Danny,  remember that a little lead goes a long way (for octane)..  I'd think no more than 3 gallons of 116 octane leaded along with 10-12 gallons of unleaded, would bring your full tank to above 100 Octane...
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Earliest vin by the oil filter. on: September 12, 2014, 01:33:58 PM
I'd like to see that too..  I haven't seen an *original* stamp on that cast surface that was ground down first...  of course anything is possible.   It would also be good to see all the other evidences that the engine is original to the car.. ie.   casting/assembly dates, casting numbers, transmission stamping, etc...
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: September 12, 2014, 08:59:58 AM
typically those kind of numbers are a date code..might be week of the year (although the 55 example says NO to that), most probably is the Julian date...  or possibly a mold number?

The PN is the 7 digit code..  FK might indicate the manufacturer, and the following number the date code or mold number.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: September 12, 2014, 08:43:03 AM
Your lwr control arm bumper seems to be original (although very deteriorated) ..  same PN as mine...  the '46' in your case, '1' in mine...  would seem to be some type of date coding...?   below photo is my original..  PN 3928362 FK
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: September 11, 2014, 11:06:53 PM
The regulator is a mechanical unit; it has points that can be cleaned which usually lets it work again ....
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Well My Camaro online Compadres, Time for a fight of my Life! on: September 10, 2014, 03:02:34 PM
Fantastic Danny....   a big key is staying positive, and sticking close to that gf of yours, and continued working on your neat '68 Z..   will help greatly at maintaining a positive attitude..  Smiley

Gary
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 04D 14x7 rally wheel trim ring & center caps on: September 10, 2014, 03:00:31 PM
The 14 x 7 trim rings used the 4 clip design throughout the model year. The original ones I have for an 04C build are 4 clip. I think it was just the 15 inch trim rings that changed mid to late year.

I never saw the 'finger style' until much later..    early to mid seventies...  but I certainly didn't see all the '69's...  *S*
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: September 09, 2014, 10:38:52 PM
Thanks Guys,  Like Bullit said, any information may be worth the $$.   I worked at my home town dealership, I was even called during the holidays to accept a load of cars during Thanksgiving  holidays.  WoW, when I saw the green Z, I knew who ordered that.   My sales manager and I sat down and ordered the car so I knew what it had.
My old dealership has closed , being a small town dealer , all local business went to the next larger city 20 miles away.   

I think any information would be worth it to me, so I can pass on to my son and grandson.     I know the dealer and we were in the Houston zone.   The car is a non X code Z car, 12A .   
But my question was , on this site there was a note : "1969 Camaro 9N508855 to 9N587275 data missing ", I am 9N554389 , so if someone can tell me that the data exists,  I will order.   

Thanks again,  I don't normally log into this site as I hang out at TC, but I may come back over just because I now have all the time in the world.   I retired after 35 years in the oil patch. 

Well Kurt S  just answered my question, data for those vin's  above are still missing.  So end of road.   


if you know the dealer who delivered it, the only other piece of information you'd get would be production date, and that can be figured very closely (with 1 day or so) using the VIN number
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