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Originality / Re: PTB on Los Angeles Camaros
« on: December 17, 2008, 07:49:48 PM »
..  and now my question is..  What does it mean????   

Originality / Re: PTB on Los Angeles Camaros
« on: December 17, 2008, 07:45:53 PM »
Maybe this will work.   i put the image on photobucket...

Originality / Re: PTB on Los Angeles Camaros
« on: December 17, 2008, 07:21:46 PM »
i have stated this before, but here it is again.   my family owned and operated a chevy dealership for many years, and i asked my father about this, jerry has met my dad so he knows i am not making this up. he told me those damn things washed off the first time you cleaned up the car for PDI.  not really paint probably some water based stamp. they are very seldom seen in real life just another goofy bull thing like the fan sticker stated above.

Well, I might have agreed with you before I went out to my car and checked ...  :)    (Personally I hate to see those 'unknown' paint marks all over a freshly restored car..  my theory is that NO ONE knows what many of them mean, and most restorers are simnply following the 'monkey see' monkey do' rule..  :)

Anyway, after seeing some info here and on TC about the PTB mark, I was examining my firewall one night a week or two ago, and sure enough, I saw a faint PBT (in green) just above and to the right of my brake booster...    I took a photo of it, but don't have it where I can post it right now.   Note:  I bought my '69 Z28 (norwood car) in 1976.  It has sat in my garage undriven (*un-anything) since 1980.  It has never been restored....

Originality / Re: 1968 z28 stripes
« on: December 17, 2008, 07:07:31 PM »
These cars were painted in lacquer; lacquer is not very 'shiny' before it's buffed....  If it isn't exterior surface sheet metal, then it wasn't buffed... 

If you use basecoat/clearcoat, and put clear there, it will be shiny.......  but I have no idea how the cars are 'judged', since most/all of the restored cars seem to have base/clear on them....    Isn't the 'wrong' paint judged down??

Maintenance / Re: Distributor end play
« on: December 15, 2008, 07:09:47 PM »
My original distributor needs shimming properly (badly)...  I've never ran it, but would like to set it up and run it now.   Where is the best source for a 'shim kit'?   Are they generally available in parts stores as a 'kit'?

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Code Stamping on Block
« on: December 05, 2008, 09:14:37 PM »
1968RSZ28 wrote:  "Yes it does!!  Click on the center image and read the note on the bottom!     "

.... so I went and looked again, and he was right.    but the information was too small to read 'without clicking on it'...  so that information was 'almost hidden' to me.... as I read thru.  I think the importance of that info is sufficient, that it should be made more prominent....  just a suggestion....

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Code Stamping on Block
« on: December 04, 2008, 11:28:14 PM »
The point I was trying to make was that all the biig block engines I've seen have the application code stamp on the LEFT hand side of the pad, and the VIN on the right hand side.   The CRG page you referenced does not address that difference that I've seen (and I went back and looked again in response to your post)...   ie.  Big blocks stampings are ordered oppositely from Small blocks re the VIN and App stamped codes...

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Code Stamping on Block
« on: December 04, 2008, 08:23:15 PM »
Aren't big blocks stamped opposite order from SB engines?  re the VIN and app codes?   I may be screwing this up, but I know I've read sometime in the past a reason/situation for the opposite order....

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trans date vs. engine date code
« on: December 04, 2008, 07:48:33 PM »
My original Norwood Z28/RS...    09C (1969) date...
Engine     V0827DZ       27Aug69  (cast on 26Aug69)
Trans       P9H30A        30Aug69   (Muncie M20)
Diff          BU0829G1     29Aug69   
Alternator   9H25          25Aug69
4053 carb     982          midAug69
Distributor     9E16        16May69
Rallye Wheels   K1 9  5 20    20 May 69
Fan            H69               **
Fan Clutch   H21J             **

I'm not positive on how to decode the fan/cluch dates..   

What other codes/dates should I be documenting on my car?

I'd like to try having it judged in the 'Original Unrestored' class next year.    What is the best show to do so?   What is involved in getting it registered?   Should I remove the ceramic headers, Mallory Rev Pol dist, and Judson Electron magneto, and put back the original distributor, coil, and exhauist manifolds?  (I don't have the smog system)..

Originality / Re: 'late' '69 Z28 Valve Cover drippers
« on: November 20, 2008, 06:27:44 AM »
Jerry,  I'm taking that you believe the last '69 Z28 (sometime in Nov '69) had non dripper VC's.. and the first '70 Z28 LT1 had dripper VC's?   IS that your belief?   Do you have any GM iinformation that supports such a date for that changeover?

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Coonling System Numbers Wrong on '69Z
« on: November 20, 2008, 06:02:05 AM »
REading this .. I got curious (even though it's almost midnight).. I went down to the garage and disassembled my original fan/clutch, and found the CV Eaton clutch (the one shown for L78/COPO in CRG, along with an unstamped 7 blade fan... My car is a September 1969 build (09C)... with engine components from the last week of August.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Plate Decode for 1969 Camaro
« on: November 20, 2008, 05:34:01 AM »
If the car is real, and the owner can prove he *owns* it...  I'd give 14K for it tomorrow based onthe photos *S*

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Data base for Camaro Race Car?
« on: November 10, 2008, 10:16:39 PM »

What data are you keeping in your database for the race cars?    owners/drivers name?  ARe you including the IMSA/GT series cars? 

Originality / Re: 'late' '69 Z28 Valve Cover drippers
« on: November 10, 2008, 10:09:05 PM »

Thanks Dave for the information on your RH cover.  It appears that the 'dripper valve covers' were an improved design, and replaced the original non dripper valve covers.  I'd love to find a date associated with the redesign.  I'm suspecting that your non dripper LH valve cover would have the 3932417 which is one of the PN's under the latercovers.   Does anyone have any data supporting the date of that change?

Thanks to John Z for his irreplaceable knowledge (and his sharing it) as always!   :)

Maintenance / Re: Distributor end play
« on: November 10, 2008, 09:48:52 PM »
*end play* on the distributor shaft results in 'ignition timing errors'..  so as little end play as possible, without unnencessary rotational friction, is better.  I'm sure the service manual has a spec on it.. I'd tend to go towards the low end of the spec range..

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