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General Discussion / Re: New Year
« on: January 02, 2013, 05:46:45 AM »
1 day gone..   365 days to go to work on our Camaros in 2013...  :)

Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« on: January 02, 2013, 05:43:08 AM »
Well, I'm not that sensible Steve...  :)
I built my engine using some 11.7 Forgedtrue pistons I had from another engine (30 over), and bought angle plug heads (selling my original heads)..  Yes, it was FAST... :)... but when the gas issues began and octane lowered, I had trouble keeping it going.   that was the reason I parked it.   i also installed a Mallory RevPol distributor and Judson Electronic magneto to get spark (it would rev easily to 8 G on the street... :)    (Everyone who remembers me giving them rides said I scared the hell out of them... :)   including my little brothers and sisters (now all grown of course!  )..

Fortunately I kept the original distributor (loose but rebuildable), but can't find the coil that was in it..  I bought a bunch of NOS parts that I never used (so I have those, although I'm incliined to leave the good original pieces in place.   I think I drilled a couple of extra holes in the firewall (that I'm gonna need some help determining - I remember trying to find original holes to mount it, but there seems to be a couple 'extra' now.. :)

I've got almost everything off the firewall now; trying to determine if I need to rebuild the booster (and who to send it to); I think it works, but when I cleaned off the 'aftermarket' black paint on it, I found residue of gold cad, but also some areas tending towards surface rust...?    I removed the Windshield wiper motor tonight; I probably need to get it rebuilt, as my wipers never worked.. (did you know if you went fast enough, the water just 'hurries off the windshield')??   *G*   If someone can give me a few pointers on how to check out the wiper motor and pump (it's an RS) on the bench, I'd love to check it out before I just send it off to be rebuilt.
PS.  When I removed the booster and wiper motor, I also found an 'extra' T stamp behind the booster..  which makes TWO T stamps on the drivers side, along with the P and B..  but I have never found the P T B stamps on the passenger side...?  maybe I stupidly sprayed black over them in the 70's?   I don't recall ever seeing any of these stamps until a year or so ago, when I checked and found the drivers side ones..  I was looking for Horsepower..  not PTB stamps back then.. :)


General Discussion / Re: building a garage
« on: January 02, 2013, 12:17:51 AM »
A man that has an apartment for visiting 'pony car missionaries'..  must be a man who has everything!  :)


Originality / Re: Nickey Cragar center hubs
« on: January 01, 2013, 08:04:30 AM »
*read once..  put away dry.."  *G*

General Discussion / Re: New Year
« on: January 01, 2013, 02:29:19 AM »
*I hope everyone is planning on a fun but SAFE evening*..  :)

Restoration / Re: Bumper guards with no rubber inserts
« on: January 01, 2013, 02:27:14 AM »
I don't know your age, but I can tell you that ANY motorcycle accident once you get 60 or so HURTS a LOT...  ;)


Originality / Re: Nickey Cragar center hubs
« on: January 01, 2013, 02:23:05 AM »
Nope, I'm in Northern Alabama....

General Discussion / Re: building a garage
« on: January 01, 2013, 02:22:21 AM »
that's the 'garage ambiance' illumination... :)

Originality / Re: Nickey Cragar center hubs
« on: December 31, 2012, 10:12:26 PM »
I think I have some magazines from '67-69 which addressed those cars and detailed articles on the options (which was basically anything you wanted to pay for as I recall)..  :)

PS.  Is there any market for a few thousand auto magazines from the mid-late sixties til today....    PHR, HR, CC, CHP, Muscle Car, etc....?   I'm going to get submitted to that 'hoarder' show if I can't get rid of these things, and I can't stomach trashing them.  I have them grouped/boxed by month/year and magazine...


General Discussion / Re: 69 Camaro Tilt column
« on: December 31, 2012, 06:11:39 PM »
When the ignition switch was added to the column they were designed to fit a number of models. Therefore most of the "69 Camaro" tilt columns on the market weren't born there. The main difference as I recall is the configuration of the reverse lock arm at the bottom.

If you buy one make sure the lower flange is included. On the standard column the flange is part of the steering shaft. On a tilt the shaft is splined for a separate forged flange, tilt only.

Your post above is from 7 yrs ago, but I've a question concerning your comment about 'splined vs non-splined' flange on tilt vs non-tilt columns.    I've got my original car partially disassembled for cleaning/preservation/maintenance, and I see that my original NON-tilt column does have a splined shaft for the coupler flange (as does the tilt column that I want to install in it's place).   The purpose of my question is to confirm that I interpreted your comment correctly?  and if your position has changed sinc 2005?   (My car was a very late '69, so maybe they changed them all to being splined later in the year?)..
Gary / 69Z28-RS

Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« on: December 29, 2012, 07:43:33 PM »
Thanks.  Why does everyone want me to give them my car??  :)

I have no intention of using reproduction parts (except for some rubber items that need replacement - ie. body mounts, hoses).
I like the color combination too (that was the color of the GM Camaro Z28 advertisements of 1969!).. but the first time I looked at the car, and saw the orange/black interior.. I was a bit turned off...  but I came around once I realized how rare a coupe was with the org/blk, plus the number of options this car had (cowl hood, gauges/tach, remote mirror, all tinted glass, RS, etc).  The engine needed rebuilding when I bought it, so I actually got a couple hundred boot by trading a strong running, but 'base' '68 Z28..


Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« on: December 29, 2012, 07:12:24 AM »
Man I would love to see pics of your car.
Charley, it doesn't look like much now it's been sitting so long.   Attached below is a photo from sometime in the 80's when I pushed the car out of the basement garage to wash the dust/dirt off.  (I haven't driven it since Dec of 1980)
The second photo is from oct 2007, I'd moved and now the car is sitting in a different basement garage.  The front part of the hood had had prior 'bondo' for a softball dent' and was cracking, so I smeared paint over it and in the cracks.. :)
The last two photos are from Oct 2008; I'd removed the hood and had stripped the bondo from it (it will need at least the front portion repainted).   Left front and right front views are shown when I pushed the car out for another 'washing'.. :)
Those are the last photos I have with the car 'more of less whole' as I've been removing parts and cleaning for reinstallation since then (as I've had time)...  I do have lots of 'detailed and parts' photos if anyone has any desire to see them...

Originality / Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« on: December 28, 2012, 07:48:08 PM »
Thanks for the information guys!   I'll followup with the contacts mentioned. 
I don't have a lot of photos, but I think I have an 'older' photo from the 80's (pushed out of the garage).. :)  and a more recent photo inside my newer garage.  I'll post those but soon (hopefully) I'll have it all back together and ready for more photos.   I'm hoping to take it to the Camaro nationals some year soon for judging.. :)


Originality / Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« on: December 28, 2012, 04:20:12 PM »
I've owned my '69 Z28/RS since 1976.   it's an original car, 95% complete (missing the smog).  It's unrestored, and I want to retain it's unrestored status, although I am doing some cleanup and *preserving* in getting it back on the road (it's been stored in my garage for 32 yrs).   I have new ceramic coated headers which I'd planned to use to replace the rusted out hedmans I removed.  I also have an extremely nice set of '69 exhaust manifolds (removed on day 1 from a friend's '69 Z28) which I *could* use if I wanted to put it back to 'factory configuration'.  My problem:   Since I don't have the smog setup, and know essentially nilch about them, I'm not clear on what is correct, acceptable, or unacceptable.   
The Parts Place (illinois?) has an ebay listing for a smog system supposedly correct for '69 and '70 Z28s.  Combination of original restored and new components for $795 BIN.    They supposedly have 15 such systems.   I'm interested in what you fellas, much more knowledgable than I on smog setups, think about this system.    Should I buy one and put it on my unrestored (but smogless) Z28?   Am I adding 'correctness' if I do so, or am I just adversely impacting the 'unrestored' status of my car?

Gary  / 69Z28-RS

Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag
« on: December 28, 2012, 01:59:33 AM »
In looking at those photos, I noticed that the driver side engine mount has one of the attaching bolts coming up from the bottom (with the nut on top);  I recently found that same bolt on my car in the same cirection (opposed to all the others);  Is that the way all the cars were for some reason, OR does it just mean if  the bolt was ever removed, it was easier for the owner/mechanic to reinsert if in that direction???


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