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General Discussion / Re: 68 Rear Disc Brake Package
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:56:54 AM »
Page 70 (3rd and last page) of the May68 HRM article on the '68-1/2 Chevys'

PS.  one of the most interesting aspects of that article was discussion of the 327/325hp engine availability in the '68 Nova.  I don't know if any one of you have driven a car with that engine, but when I was in the USAF one of my best friends owned a '68 Chevelle with that engine and 4 speed of course.  It was VERY strong, in fact stronger than any of the Chevelle SS396 cars we ever raced (and we did race a few!).. probably not including a 375 version though?

I'd love to have a Nova with that engine and a 4 speed; it would be a very good runner!

General Discussion / Re: 68 Rear Disc Brake Package
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:55:36 AM »
Not only is my memory questionable from 50 yrs ago, it's not 'perfect' even for a few months!  :)   

I was looking online, ebay, etc to possibly buy an old copy of that May'68 HRM magazine and in looking, it of course showed a photo of the cover...  The more I looked at the photo, I came to realize... I probably HAD that magazine.  THEN i recalled that a few months ago, I'd brought over a box of 'old car magazines', thinking of perhaps selling them one at a time via ebay (as others are doing)... so I spun my chair around to find that box (messy office), and right behind me, on the floor, 3 feet from my chair was the box.. and right on top was that May'68 magazine!~   ( I need to hire a secretary to keep me straight at home!).. :)

Anyway, I read the article, then decided to scan it and post it here for you guys that maybe haven't seen it, but I have to say after reading the article there is VERY little on the rear disk brakes; it did give a pn for the complete axle unit and stated it had to be swapped out complete!   It also implied that it might be available before '68 yr end, but we all know that wasn't the case (except for the Service Duty units for racers), and since they discussed the emergency brake equipment for this one it implies it's the JL8 unit that they were *testing* in the '68 model Camaro. 
Of course the dual quad setup WAS available during 'the 68 model year for the Camaro Z28.  Anyway, I still contend that VERY LITTLE has ever been written (that I've found) on the HD Service Duty disk brake rear axle with all it's many differences from the JL8. 

General Discussion / Re: 68 Rear Disc Brake Package
« on: February 07, 2018, 08:59:24 PM »
Interesting article in the C&D, but nothing about the brakes (other than having rear disk brakes)!  Sam Posey's comments made that article...  it was also interesting that Ford showed up with the F60 15 Polyglas tires in july '68 ( a bit more than a year before Goodyear introduced them in a couple of new cars!)... :)

I don't remember reading either article, but I wasn't much of a C&D fan as they leaned too heavily towards foreign cars in their mag, and I likely missed both article since I was in basic at the time... (at that time we didn't get any 'extras' in basic! :) ...   

.. or maybe my memory is failing me, but if someone has that HRM article.. maybe it would wake up some memory cells.. :)

General Discussion / Re: 68 Rear Disc Brake Package
« on: February 07, 2018, 07:49:20 PM »
I'd like to read that article if anyone has it possible in digital form?  :)

William:  Was the disk brake rear an actual full OTC Service Duty (as would have been on the TransAm cars of the time), or was it a std 12 bolt Camaro rear, with the Corvette caliper brackets and calipers??  I do know it was possible to do that 'retrofit' at the time, but what would be NEW to me is if a magazine actually reported on the Service Duty rears in mid '68?   I *think* that was around the time Chevy began unofficially supplying them to racers... Donahue etc.  ??

General Discussion / Re: 68 Rear Disc Brake Package
« on: February 07, 2018, 03:25:08 PM »

I think you are referring to the 1969 model year, when JL8 WAS an option on the Camaro, and of course ALL the magazines reported on the 'available' crossram and disk brake equipment.

The OP was asking about the SERVICE duty rear - during the '68 model year, and which was available OTC from sometime during the '68 model year if you knew about it (summer maybe?).   The Service Duty Rear was *totally different* than the JL8 equipment.  A friend of mine, who bought a '69 Z28 in Dec '68 (69 model year) and converted it to an SCCA racer immediately, had to go thru Vince to get his SD rear; Vince had it shipped to him directly~   

PS.  if you are aware of a magazine article on the Service Duty rear during the '68 model year, then I'd really like to try to find the article, because information on the SD rear is almost non-existent even today.

General Discussion / Re: 68 Rear Disc Brake Package
« on: February 07, 2018, 02:08:07 PM »
The Service Duty Rear End was not an option; it was just a little known available part Over the Counter.   One couldn't buy that part unless one KNEW about it, and predominantly only people involved in road racing knew about (Trans Am etc), Vince Piggins was involved in it's development; my friend who obtained one got it more quickly by working with Vince directly.

The part was ~ $700 (jobber price) and was a complete rear end from 'brake to brake'.   It was 'developed' as a shortened FULL SIZE differential (in order to fit the Camaro platform).  The Full Size was used as a base because of it's larger diameter axles and larger axle bearings.  The SD differential included a higher number of plates and significantly heavier springs in the posi unit, and of course the Corvette based disk brake units were used on it. 

General Discussion / Re: Resizer for photos
« on: February 01, 2018, 07:11:08 PM »
This should do it....

(I liked it so well, that I ended up purchasing it - which isn't subject to the limitations of the free one...)

Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 01, 2018, 06:57:05 PM »
Bill is faster than I...  :)    I had to go down to the basement, and take a photo of mine (fortunately I had not reinstalled it since removing, cleaning, lubricating); all I had to do was *FIND* the box it was in.. :)     Mine and Bill's appear to be the same, (hugger) orange and 'inset'...  :)

General Discussion / Re: 69 SS that was deported
« on: January 31, 2018, 05:20:16 PM »
I'm trying to post some pictures,  but its always telling me that there too big,  Believe me there are NO Run in the paint,  Its black, so I had to find someone who was good,  this thing is laser straight,  you couldn't find a flaw anywhere, in the paint........    I'm getting excited to get it finished......   Been a very long project.

Do a google search for 'Light Image Resizer' and download it (Free)..  It works easy and great and you can 'tune' the parameters to get the image (file) size you need for posting, and with negligible impact on image quality.   Reduce your FILE size to below 200Kb and it will post...

General Discussion / Re: Ralley Green Z at MCACN
« on: January 31, 2018, 02:05:58 PM »
Hopefully someone that knows more about this will respond, as I don't trust my memory anymore on this sort of stuff, but IIRC from my discussions with Al, the 'M' was used to designate 'Test' or 'prototype' or 'developmental' casting; perhaps they'd made some slight change to the casting, but then decided that the block was usable as it was and proceeded with the engine build...   If I'm remembering this incorrectly, someone please update/correct this...

General Discussion / Re: 69 SS that was deported
« on: January 31, 2018, 01:56:18 PM »
Yes, Poor choice of words,  it was an exported car,  I'm sorry...

:)   It's all good!   We all make mistakes, and as for 'word' mistakes, as I get older I'm getting worse and worse!  :)
- and I figured if the car WAS deported (for runs in the paint, etc... :)  I would learn something when you explained it!  :)      (I'm just kidding of course!)...   if runs were reason for 'auto deportation', there would have been a lot of them!  :)

We'd all like to learn more about your car..  with photos please.. :)

General Discussion / Re: 69 SS that was deported
« on: January 31, 2018, 03:12:44 AM »
So it was 'exported' out of the US, then 'imported' back into the US later...?   :)

"Deported' makes it sound as if it was *forced* to leave the country...   :)

General Discussion / Re: Ralley Green Z at MCACN
« on: January 31, 2018, 03:10:05 AM »
I talked to the owner (Al Krebs at the time) two different years at the Camaro Nats..  I was a skeptic initially, but after much discussion with him, he made me a believer that the car is real...

Restoration / Re: Seat Foam
« on: January 27, 2018, 05:17:51 PM »
If you are going to install 'repro' seat covers, then I think I'd let that company (that supplies your seat covers) recommend the best seat foam / cushions for their covers...

General Discussion / Re: CORRECT 1967 Camaro Hoods Question
« on: January 24, 2018, 08:03:35 PM »
Apparently the 'flat hoods' are the same for all three years (at least I've never seen any distinction made).  There were 'date codes' utilized, but AFAIK all years only had the 'week' of production (at least this is correct for '69 hoods).  If there's a distinction for 'year' of the flat hoods, I haven't seen it discussed here on CRG the last 10 yrs...

Hopefully someone with an original '67 can provide a better response than mine.

Here is what the CRG data base has to say about Hoods...

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