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1967 - Orphans / Re: 7N222711 L78 block
« on: February 24, 2018, 05:00:52 PM »
Congratulations!   That's a WIN in my book...  :)

Ed McComas is the owner/author of that little book (now a pdf file); it's about all I've used for the last 30 or so years, since I helped him put a first listing together...  He sold this book via NCRS and at car shows for years, but he's decided not to do another printing.  I suggest downloading it and saving it to your desktop for easy access.. :)

It covers Chevrolet V8's engines from the '55 models thru the 1991 year...  This is his 5th revision since he first began selling it...

General Discussion / Re: 68 Z28 motor listed on CL
« on: February 22, 2018, 08:57:54 PM »
At least the CE engine will not have an incorrect (for your car) VIN on it...  :)

Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 22, 2018, 04:44:22 PM »
Some of us are old enough to remember when cars were greased (all the joints) as part of an oil change at the local service station (and how much grease it took was not a factor!).. :)   

I even remember the first car(s) I purchased which didn't have grease fittings....  What a downer for those of us who like to do our own maintenance to get under a car and discover no grease fittings and so-called 'lifetime bearings' and joints...  :(

Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 22, 2018, 02:57:14 PM »
I don't know of another reason to use such a plug at an obvious greasing location.  Apparently the factory lube would suffice for the warranty period (and longer, much longer in some of our situations!)_..  and it's reasonable to expect the factory to 'let normal maintenance' handle the installation of a zerk fitting later in the car's life.  For ease in later maintenance the zerk fitting would seem to be the solution!

I'm sure many have been 'converted' (had this upgrade) by now.  How do the judging organizations (using the term loosely) handle that?  Do they even look at the plastic plug or zerk fitting?

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N509257 DZ 302 Block on ebay
« on: February 22, 2018, 02:51:12 PM »
There was a federal requirement (from Aug/Sep '68) that the engine be 'uniquely identified, and VIN stamping is most expedient at time of installation , but there was no federal requirement on where it was stamped.

The issue of *where* the VIN was stamped on '69 engines, and the 'inconsistency' in location thru the year, makes me think that Chevrolet engineering management to address the requirement wrote specifications allowing for either location to be stamped (so long as ONE of them was); the LA and Norwood plants apparently chose different locations to meet this requirement.

It was probably faster/easier to stamp the engine low on the side, immediately before or after the transmission was stamped.  It's obviously easier to rear on the pad!  It may have varied with the person being tasked with that job, or possibly whether the engine was 'dressed out' with alternator/etc, or not, at the stamping time. 

General Discussion / Re: 68 Z28 motor listed on CL
« on: February 21, 2018, 04:54:02 PM »
How things change...  :)

In late 1974, I paid $1000 for a complete good '68 Z28, orig engine, trans, etc... and drove it daily to school/work/etc for 2 yrs before trading it.

Now a part of an engine is $5500~!

Actually that 'code' is Fisher's *scheduled* production week, generated at the time of order (or shortly thereafter) which is NOT an exact production date.   THAT is why I asked what he meant by 'body date'; there is no exact 'body date' to my knowledge, but of course the body panels will each have a date code on them for when they were stamped out... again though, there is no 'body date'...

What do you mean by 'body date'??

General Discussion / Re: Car Life July 68 Z28 Road Test
« on: February 20, 2018, 06:00:28 PM »
Those 'magazine' road tests from the summer '68 timeframe were probably ALL of the same '68 Z28 (at the Mesa Proving Grounds) and wearing some 'test pieces'.. ie. the disk brake rear... 

Rockers on the darker color painted cars are the ones that didn't get the black rockers....   BRG is a pretty dark color....

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N509257 DZ 302 Block on ebay
« on: February 19, 2018, 02:23:23 AM »
The block was completed on 7 November 68.   L509257 was completed in LA during late November '68, whereas N509257 was completed in Norwood during late September.   

Seems this engine could not have come in a Norwood car, but *might* have come in an LA car...


It's difficult to imagine them not catching it, and if I'm not mistaken there are documented cases where the stamped codes were *changed* in the factory.. basically by X'ing out and restamping...

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Looking for guidance on my 68 Camaro
« on: February 14, 2018, 05:22:16 PM »
The interior codes are found here....

Your top color most likely matched the interior color from the factory; you might have to dig for a bit, but I'd be surprised if you can't find out anything/everything you want to know on the crg archive data site:

General Discussion / Re: Plans for your camaro?
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:41:48 PM »
Jano,That is some really original looking crud on your BV.

OMG!! Whole underneath was sprayed with it, also layers of Rustoleum and burn out box rubber. On top around 20 years of dust. did entomb the steel all these years, no corrosion. Plus car never saw snow. Or rain for that matter. I never saw the wipers work, bench tested ok. Wanted to post some inspection graffiti. I like finding the stuff.

Hey!   It's only 'graffiti' if it's put on during restoration; the original stuff was FUNCTIONAL... and we like seeing it (at least I do).. :)

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