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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 24, 2014, 11:02:42 AM
This being the case how were replacements indexed (inner supports to fneder crest line etc.) ?

There are alignment holes in the supports and fenders. The same applies to other models.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Galvanizing a Fuel Tank on: February 23, 2014, 06:48:07 AM
Spectra tanks are Ni Terne coated.

I believe the reproduction tanks (such as those made by Spectra) have a gal finish, but not sure of the process used;
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Trunk Spring installation on: February 22, 2014, 08:27:09 PM
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215838&highlight=trunk
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: '68 D91 stripe vs 396 Emblems on: February 20, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
Gap between wide and thin stripe is incorrect and too large.

67 not original paint.

35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: '68 D91 stripe vs 396 Emblems on: February 19, 2014, 08:32:11 PM
as my car is a late 67 build....  
How late? Are you sure it did not have a D90 on it? The emblem should be centered in the stripe. Your D91 would not be located differently from the AIM dimensions for the emblem to be centered. The stripe would be too far back. Even though you told the shop what to do, they should have stopped when they checked the emblem for placement.
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 17, 2014, 07:27:12 AM
That's not what I meant. You mentioned a 64 C/10 panel. You can't compare a different make and model repro or factory body part when evaluating Camaro parts. If a Goodmark quarter fits a Chevelle nicely it does not mean Goodmark is good choice for a Camaro resto. On the last job I did, the atrocious Goodmark fenders and doors supplied by the customer were discarded and replaced with AMD and GM. I've used enouigh repro and GM sheetmetal parts to know that some repro tin is garbage and requires extensive labor and mods to make them fit. Same goes for late stamped NOS fenders that have wrinkles, overly round radii, and poor alignment and edge definition. This is not my hobby, it's my profession.


"Stick to comparing Camaro sheetmental parts and dismiss all other makes and models; what applies to those has little to do with these. Your bodyshop should know all this. If they do not start looking for another one."

While I agree you want to go to a body shop that likes consistent panel fitment, I don't see a quality shop taking a customers 69 Camaro and saying "well this is a 69 Camaro we have to really make the car fit together good now", that would be suspect to me. My 69 Camaro hasn't been apart since it left the assembly line, and I can tell you first hand even with all the assembly line parts it is doesn't look as nice as some of the "show" cars I have seen. From the few different makes and models I have, the reproduction Vs. original Vs. NOS is the same across the line for panel fitment. The Camaro isn't exclusive in that category.
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 16, 2014, 05:47:10 PM
Kolektor.
 #1. Are these early or late stamped NOS? It makes a difference. Even early stamped is no guarantee. Best bet is usually assembly line take offs even if they need work. You have the NOS fenders so mock those up. If they align very well, need no mods for a factory fit, and the edge and radii crispness are nice, those may be the good choice.  How much labor do you think you'll be giving a shop to make those 4 repro fenders fit if you sell one NOS fender, providing that NOS fender fits well? You say you are particular so be prepared to pay. What gaps do you want? Factory or better?
 
You are paying a shop, so all labor to make an imperfect panel fit is T&M. Even the best fitting GM panel is extra T&M if you want show gaps. Repro panel production varies and what's successful for one job or productiuon run may not be for another. Nobody I know makes a really nice quality, good fitting repro decklid; they run narrow. Find an original otherwise its back to T&M. Show gaps on decklids whether GM or not will require work. A shop is not going to know what labor is required to meet your objectives until they hang a panel on the car.

Stick to comparing Camaro sheetmental parts and dismiss all other makes and models; what applies to those has little to do with these. Your bodyshop should know all this. If they do not start looking for another one.
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tulip Panel Complete on: February 10, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
That's not a tulip panel, it's called a saddlebag or outer cowl side panel. The tulip panel is located between the decklid and rear window, also referred to as the rear deck filler panel or decklid filler panel.
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Seam sealer on: February 08, 2014, 06:31:19 PM
Fast & Firm is garbage, gets brittle and cracks. That's what shops used eons ago before urethane sealers entered the profession. If you do not have a gun for 2 part sealer, Lord Fusor 800EZ is a quality product and tools nicely.
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay... What a Car! on: January 24, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
unless you had a private booth, and had access to lacquer products, it is going to be tough to get a car painted in the states with it now a days.
I can buy lacquer at my jobber and it can be sprayed privately or at any shop.

The lacquer on these cars was reflowed, not cut and buffed.  Cutting uncleared lacquer too much distrupts the metallic and creates a blotchy appearance. And today's lacquer is not like that of '69, so painters choose BC/CC instead.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 23, 2014, 07:22:39 AM
There is often no recourse if a car is found to be rotten. No rust is wide open to interpretation. If there is no visible rot then sellers will state rust free. A buyer uneducated in bodywork who becomes disappointed after a teardown is common. Sometimes a shiny paint job hides butcher work and they fall for that. The hack job on those quarter skins is no surprise. Many people think their backyard butcher repairs are good enough. They are clueless in the trade, have no equipment or money and want to patch a POS any way possible to just drive the car. Cars like this were common.
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 22, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
If you are paying someone be prepared to fork over a lot of cash. With zero experience and no shop you can learn to do it yourself; that's if the car is even worth saving. Some say they all are but that depends on the individual. GM assembly line take offs are the sheetmetal parts you want, even if they need work. Late stamped NOS are not plug and play. If you are going to proceed, gut the whole car. No need to strip that garbage off the panels. It all gets bulk dropped before media blasting the body. Then you'll find out if what's left can be carried in a suitcase.
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 Z/28 Leaf Springs on: January 15, 2014, 11:42:44 PM
Do an advanced search on this site. Sandblasting and finishing incorrectly will not produce an original appearance. New springs and raw steel have a unique appearance. Go to your local spring shop or steel yard and have a look.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: who do you all get body parts from? on: January 14, 2014, 07:16:04 AM
Repro and NOS sheetmetal is a complex topic with many variables. I've rejected Goodmark panels supplied with a job. Late stamped NOS fenders will need work to be acceptable. The dies are worn, edges are too rounded and they have ripples. So after you plunk down top dollar for them add more to the T&M pile. Most NOS sellers are clueless about bodywork so they don't know the panels are not great. AMD panels are good but they have shortcomings too. Panel quality varies by year. A positive report on a particular panel does not mean the entire run is good. A CHL roofskin went on with only a minor mod required to an A-pillar. Roofskin supplied by Classic Industries and manufacterer unknown needed mods to all corners. Decklids run narrow, not all tailpanels are stamped right. That's just for starters.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Package Tray Paint on: January 12, 2014, 04:13:39 PM
Old topic, but I add my own work here.

Not Package Tray Paint, but maybe the same output. I used Eastwood Trunk Paint Aerosol. Just very thin single layer. (I tried this for the trunk, but it was not good enough for that purpose). The pattern is very low and therefore it did not fit to the trunk paint so good.

When it was dry, I painted basic matte black on top of it.

I think the result is acceptable. What do you guys think?

Too much texture. Use SEM Texture Coating, have your jobber mix up the paint using the code which has the correct texture additive, or duplicate using dry spray technique.
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