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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 11, 2014, 06:27:13 PM
I go through this on every resto. Remove the plugs and the drain flaps. There is also a plug under the carpet. Attach a wand to a blow nozzle and clean the cavity. If media blasting this is also standard procedure. During a resto the sheetmetal flap at the leading edge of the rocker can also be opened to provide additional wand access. After cleanng apply a cavity wax, but do so post paint, not pre paint. They are made by numerous companies such as SEM, 3M, Wurth, Transtar, etc. Buy an an application wand that affixes to a Schutz gun. A corrosion paint like SEM Rust Shield can also be applied prior to the cavity wax. These post paint procedures apply to all cavities in the car.

67rs327,
That rot on your wheelhouse needs to be repaired. The correct way is to cut out the rotten metal and replace, not just fill the holes with mig wire. It rotted because there are two adjoined pieces of metal there and that's where cars first rot out. After cutting that out, the rocker cavity will be more easily cleaned. There's no telling what else may need repair. If that is rotten, it's a sure bet other areas are as well.
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Horn Button Assembly 67 Camaro on: April 11, 2014, 04:55:45 PM
There is no plastic insulator. Where does it go and what does it look like?
See the ring in the following link? It isolates the spring steel disc. http://www.ss396.com/camaro/IHC-KITX.html
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Horn Button Assembly 67 Camaro on: April 11, 2014, 12:15:03 PM
Is the ivory plastic insulator ring installed under the steel disc?? I can't tell from that photo.
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '67 Roofrail Weather Strip Channels on: April 09, 2014, 08:39:08 AM
Use single sided adhesive thin foam tape, not the double faced(D/F) tape in that Heartbeat link. Vendors will describe anything as being correct and people will buy it. In their description they don't know the difference between width and thickness either. The weatherstrip channel is adjusted to the windows after window installation, Heartbeat's 3M D/F tape won't allow any adjustment. Foam tape can be purchased at any hardware store, 3M D/F tape at any jobber.
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: rain drip bright molding on: April 07, 2014, 06:44:04 PM
Hi Darrell,  I'm guessing those are stainless as well? Is there a point where you can polish them to a substrate level and discolor them?  I'm haveing an issue where it appears that I'm down a little too far, and getting a copper tint.... They are factory originals....
You may have sanded or buffed through the flash chrome.

I have a car that was shipped to me for assembly which was supplied with repro drip rail moldings from D&R. From what I recall they were not as bad as anticipated. When I pull them out again I'll double check. LH NOS molding can be purchased at GM Parts Direct.
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Rust on galvanized parts on: March 21, 2014, 06:33:19 AM
The headliner tack strip appears to just have glue on it. If the retainer needs to be removed, the clips must be extracted correctly or they will be ruined. POR(Paint Over Rust) is not the best method to stop rust, removal is. Bare, non galvy metal can be etch or epoxy primed and topcoated if you run your car, and it's not afraid to be exposed to water. The tracks should be left unpainted and treated as James did. There are other coatings besides POR if one must cheat. POR and Eastwood have targeted the hobbiest with little knowledge of the industry. Local jobbers have other products one can use. There's even POR's competitor which is Master Series. Permatex has a rust treatment, Mar-Hyde has One Step. SEM, which provides professional products to the industry has corrosion treatments.
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: widow felts nos vs. A.Mrkt. on: March 20, 2014, 09:06:34 AM
Ko-lek-tor, I have been looking for the manufacturer name of the better felts, I think it was "Re-pro Parts" but can't verify it yet. If I find it I will let you know.
The company is Repops. I have not used them yet but some have had success. I'm sure more threads can be found at TC, these are just two I recall from Rick and Roger. All one has to do is ask a vendor what their retuirn policy is. If you don't like them just send them back. I've done it numerous times.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=265033&highlight=repops

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=217520&highlight=repop+window+felts
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: widow felts nos vs. A.Mrkt. on: March 19, 2014, 05:12:49 AM
I had more issues with the more narrow rubber strip along the bead.  It was only about 60% as wide as the original...   Sad
That width difference is shown in the link I provided on the previous page. The retainer location on the felts or the quarter may result in the rubber strip being sucked below the quarter ledge.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: widow felts nos vs. A.Mrkt. on: March 16, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
Recently purchased PUI felts shown have sharp ends as James stated. PUI felts bought 10 years ago are the same. Quarter window felt shapes vary and may not match the window ledge contour very well.
 
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Order of assembly when painting car on: March 15, 2014, 05:51:49 AM
  I recommend drilling a few small diameter pilot holes through the floor/top of sub frame for proper realignment ( very small, like I said you would utilize these as a guide to get you back exactly were you were before disassembly) cuts the diagonals(cross measurements)out--keep it simple.

How do you know the subframe is aligned before disassembly if you don't measure it? Subframe R&R is easy; just read the tape measure.
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Order of assembly when painting car on: March 14, 2014, 06:31:46 AM
The shop should discuss all the options with you. Before you proceed with that, ask to see photos of their work from bare metal to paint. Photos don't always show flaws. If you know what straight panels look like, make sure they can deliver them and the type of panel alignment and gaps desired. Gaps exceeding that of what assembly line panels provide are costly. What some customers think is good others may not. Some shops will provide wavy panels, inferior paint and poor alignment, others will not.

27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: widow felts nos vs. A.Mrkt. on: March 10, 2014, 09:06:20 AM
PUI vs GM felt comparison beginning at post #35 in this thread: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=212160&page=3
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Perventing rust in the 1/4 panels of my 69 camaro on: February 28, 2014, 07:38:18 PM
Rust Fighter I is just a cavity wax with wicking properties, not a paint or converter. Paints like SEM Rust Shield can be applied first, then followed with cavity wax. The condition of pinchwelds, amount of rust between them and ipotential to pop out is the concern. A solid, pampered car should not rot before you do.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Perventing rust in the 1/4 panels of my 69 camaro on: February 27, 2014, 06:25:54 PM
Go to your local jobber and buy cavity waxes/internal coatings and an application wand. SEM, 3M(Rust Fighter I) and Transtar all have them, Wurth is another good product. I don't use POR products on any job. If you navigate the aforementioned company sites, all the info is available.
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Are There Any "Off Limit" Areas in Your Restoration? on: February 24, 2014, 11:08:33 AM
I guess it will be a semi-preserved car. I don't want the underside painted either. Is there a preservative or clear that will protect underside and inner panels from corrosion and rust?
With the floorpan and rear frame rail rot I've seen on your car, how are you not going to paint the belly? Blasting is a requirement for proper repair. Cavity waxes are available from multiple companies. Other post paint rust prevention measures should also be taken. Your bodyshop should know all this.
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