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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: custom striped Z I saw this weekend on: August 27, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
That car need era correct wheels like Cragars sized accordingly front and rear, with proper tires to go with the endless line, and ladder bars. Then it will be a suitable candidate for http://70sstreetmachines.tumblr.com/linkage
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: New body? on: July 29, 2014, 09:36:54 PM
I'd call a Dynacorn rep to verify the near perfect gaps claimed is true and can be guaranteed in writing, and all components will fit like GM. I have had customers pay for flawless gaps and it is not cheap. I have yet to see GM or repro panels fit with flawless show gaps. In the link is a car done by Jayson. If the quality of a repro part or body has vastly improved I'd like to know about it. Otherwise I would not still be buying assembly line take off parts. I 've had repro panels vary in quality tremendously. And late stamped GM are often no prize. Buy a D.Corn body and still have to pay a tech to fix all the flaws is not going to cost less than a rebuild; not unless one is satisfied with hackwork. Not to mention all parts and components should fit just like factory also; which is a common complaint in repro tin.  Note the amount of hours involved in the link. Jayson's work can be seen at Refinish Network on other restos.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167739

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. I've seen cars that are butchered and the owner thinks they're flawless. When repro bodies can be guaranteed to be just like GM or better, I'll stop rebuilding a GM body. It sure would be a lot easier and cheaper. No brainer to just scuff, paint and reassemble. Or just raise the repro shell price to $20K with no flaws and make it easier.
 

I priced out an entire dynacorn body for a 69 a few years ago, and it was around $13k for an entire new body, including delivery to my door.  It included every new panel of sheetmetal, and was guaranteed by the seller to have the doors and trunk lid prefit with supposedly near perfect gaps before being sent out.  Not sure how much this has gone up, but I know that the seller I spoke with was willing to deal a little, and the advertised price was not set in stone.  Bear in mind, this was a few years ago, and they were trying to get this things out there for all of us to see.

Just a thought.


3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: any of you ever sued over a car you bought on: July 25, 2014, 12:32:57 AM
Perhaps the dealer that sold it to him, bought it without knowing the extent of the damage as well. Could it be possible it has changed hands a couple times since being "fixed" up?
Is there a statute of limitations when fraud is committed?

That makes three dealers who can't evaluate a car. How is it some can properly inspect a car's body and others cannot? Maybe that's why some of those who cannot call those who can.
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: any of you ever sued over a car you bought on: July 24, 2014, 08:58:03 PM
Quotes from the other thread about this car http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11742.msg94858#msg94858:

"Yes i got the car from a dealer,  i dont think they knew the car had the problems,  and the way it was all hidden there was no way to to know.  besdides the roof,  i guess the car has been fixed correctley over time,  the body work was straight as can be, and gaps where good, also all the pannels sounded the same,"

"I am a dealer and he was a delaer but ive never had a issue like this."



The hackwork on this car was not hidden to the uneducated eye. One look at this indicates a low dollar problem car. I've seen this time and time again. People with no experience buy a POS and pay too much because they have no bodywork experience and fail to have a car inspected by someone who does.
 
 
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: any of you ever sued over a car you bought on: July 22, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
The wording in this sentence suggests KERR paid more than $4K for this car: "I feel like i paid a lot of money for a $4K car".

There are numerous other threads on T. Camaro and other sites where uneducated buyers purchased junk. I've priced jobs for clients that became unaffordable because they had no clue what they were looking at upon purchase.
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: any of you ever sued over a car you bought on: July 22, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
I read your other thread about this car and am curious why you did not have someone with bodywork experience inspect it. Riveted quarters should have been noticed upon inspection, as well as the lower fender butchery. The paint is horrendous and gaps are awful. In the first pic, the leading edge of the vinyl top is a clear indication of a nightmare. All that is enough to make me walk unless the car is dirt cheap; not to mention the red flag of a dealer sale. That car was worth nowhere near the $4K you think is was. Good luck on the lawsuit.

If you are considering a Dynacorn body be aware that they are not plug and play. Extensive work is required to make them acceptable unless they have improved quality tremendously. Read Jayson's #14 reply. I know him from Refinish Network. http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167739
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Lacquer question on: June 14, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
You can use urethane BC followed by clear. TCP Global sells lacquer but I don't buy there so minimum qty is unknown. I can still buy lacquer here.
I have extra LeMans Blue from a job you can have for the price of postage. I'll just do a pour off into a touch up bottle. The same can be done with primer unless you have some. Your local bodyshop with a mixing system can mix a tenth of a pint too; if you know one that would do you the favor. Jobbers have a 1/2 pint minimum.

Is you paint original and if not is it cleared? Don't over buff the area after touch up if uncleared or you could screw up the metallic.
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 & 68 BumbleBee Stripe on: June 08, 2014, 11:13:10 AM
From a design standpoint and in my opinion the underscored stripe looks incomplete and lacks consistency. I also do not like the longer, earlier version of the stripe. Viewed from any angle except perpendicular to the car's side, it appears awkward. The short stripe follows the contour of the fender which appears consistent.
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Original versus New Sheet Metal on: May 10, 2014, 07:17:10 AM
Without a visual I cannot tell what a fair amount of work is. Your repro SS hood's crown will require work to fit the fenders, and its front detail may not look like a GM hood. The notch at the rear corners will also not be the same, if it has one at all. The sides may not be straight and mods may be required for gap consistency. I strongly suggest reparing salvageable original panels or replacing with GM assembly line take offs. If you search diligently you will find them.

NOS fenders are not always that great, especially late stampings. I recently installed a late stamped pair and each required a day to correct problems. The repro Goodmark RS valance supplied with the last car was tossed in favor of a GM used one that needed some work. Most Goodmark panels are garbage. If you need repro quarters buy AMD.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: How to Fix Loose or Sagging Side Door Mirrors on: April 29, 2014, 10:19:27 PM
Anybody have a pic of mirror with glass out.
How about checkin' out the link in the first post?
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 inner quarter pinch weld / door gap on: April 20, 2014, 09:09:12 AM
Whose door weatherstrips? How much compression is available? How much clearance between the door and jamb without them? Cannot fully evaluate using that photo. A repro quarter should be checked for clearance and modified if needed.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 inner quarter pinch weld / door gap on: April 15, 2014, 06:39:24 PM
How about a photo of your problem area?
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Horn Button Assembly 67 Camaro on: April 12, 2014, 06:30:50 PM
The part is hard to see in the link sent, but look closely and you will see it around the metal spring plate.
Click on the magmifying glass in the corner for enlargement.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 12, 2014, 10:52:17 AM
I just don't subscribe to a one size fits alll repair.
I cater to each area , and replace as needed. It may not be as profitable as what you are accustomed to, but it doesn't cut unnecessarily into a nice car where unwarranted. It is on a as needed basis only. BUT if cutting every time gives you the warm fuzzies than ok.
That is what cutting out that small piece out is doing, catering to the area. Every job is different. I don't replace entire sections or panels if it's not needed. Using mig wire alone in the rot holes as you suggested is not going to repair that area. The metal is rotten and thin, there is a piece missing and those holes larger than pinholes.
You are correct, one size does not fit all. Each job gets evaluated and repaired accordingly. This is not about profiting or doing more than is required at the customer's expense.
Tubes are galvanized
Never seen that before! Only parts I thought were gal on these cars were the headliner attachment strips, floorpan plugs and the wiring loom cover/carpet support at the door openings.
Rockers are galvanized, so are the door jamb supports.
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 11, 2014, 08:09:14 PM
The area shown needs to be cut out. No mig wire hole filling techniques are going to properly fix the half rotten hole or the adjacent pitted and thin areas. I deal with rot repair and panel replacement on a weekly basis. When pinchwelds and lapped panels are swollen and rotten, shortcutting is not the best approach to a lasting repair.
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