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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 18, 2014, 07:41:26 AM
SEM tx coat is not to be used wet-on-wet. To achieve the correct texture, you'll have to practice if using aerosol and if gun spraying. A spit from the aerosol can be easily fixed by dabbing with a finger or q-tip. It depends on one's capabilities. I've had to redo a dash due to someone's poor application. I topcoat it with SEM Trim black with flattening agent added to it. If you have your jobber mix the paint there is no need for the SEM product, PPG DX1999 texture additive is added to the mix. Always read the tech sheets for products, they are all available on-line: http://www.semproducts.com/manage/html/public/content/techsheets/sem_tds_texture_coating.pdf


Sauron,
When using the SEM Texture Coating is the PPG 9317 topcoat sprayed wet on wet?
Bob
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 16, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Paint code for '68 and '69 dash faces is PPG 9266. Dash face and tops of doors for '67 is PPG 9248. SEM Trim Black closely matches years 8 and 9.

Dash tops for all three years was zero gloss, suede finish. PPG code 9317. Texture easily achieved by using SEM Texture Coating, followed by a topcoat.

Sauron,
Please explain dash faces. Are you talking about the interior metal trim for 67 and dash in 68 and 69?
Bob
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 14, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
Use SEM Trim Black. It is a professional product, dries fast, provides an excellent finish and adheres well. It is very close to PPG code 9266, same as the black interior code for dash faces used in 8 and 9. Leave the Rustoleum at the hardware store. Another shop owner I know likes Transtar trim black but I've yet to use it.
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 06, 2014, 05:35:51 PM
Everything is AMD only.

Except for the tail piece, and the dash, and the front header, only because it came with them.

If you look at that AMD link I posted, note the differences between other tailpanels and the AMD panel when compared to GM.
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 06, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
Hope you bought AMD quarters.
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 06, 2014, 05:19:23 PM
No measurements needed. However, the roof skin may need some mods in the corners. I have a ceiling fixture that allows me to install roof skins by myself. Pretty easy to rig one up. All the moldings will keed to be fit. Tailpanel is pretty straightforward. You'll see what needs to be done when it's mocked up with the new quarters. You'll need an attachment for your stud gum for the molding pins. A box of 500 mold rivets is about 15 bucks.

also, what measurements do you all take before removing a roof? I dont have a front windshield to check fits, I guess any tips for replacing that, and the rear tail panel, Ill probably end up buying the upper cowl piece too, instead of trying to fabricate all the rusted stuff from flat sheetmetal.

Thanks
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 03, 2014, 05:25:58 PM
the first one, the front fenders, where they always rust out between the support and the skin, on the lower section, is there a way to permanently seal that so it doesnt happen again? Or just coat it with undercoating and hope for the best?  Seems a bad design, the way stuff can get in there and not get out (obviously as they commonly rust there)

 

When you repair them just spilt the brace from the fender, blast and epoxy. Undercoating does more harm than good. Don't seal it, if you do, whatever water gets in will be trapped. Vehicles are not designed to last. I've repaired numerous newer vehicles this year due to rot.
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 01, 2014, 04:32:31 PM
It's not a nightmare. You would have more time in buttwelding and skimming that skin seam than throwing on a full qrt. Out of box AMD qrts are not that bad. Chances are the deklid radii and lid to qrt sides will be off. If you want gaps better than factory then mods are required. Rebuild your door hinges and align them to the old quarters. If you don't want to do the hinges, send them to Willie. 8 and 9 hinges are a no-brainer but I send my 67 hiunges to Willie because he does and excellent job for the money, bettter than any rebuild kit you can buy.

http://www.hoodhingerepair.com/
I still really really dont want to have to deal with the nightmare of setting up all the gaps, wish I could find a sail panel.

9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 01, 2014, 10:40:50 AM
Call them, maybe they'll cover it or meet you half way. From what vendor were they purchased? Better to lose a hundred bucks and do the job the right, easier and faster way.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 01, 2014, 10:32:16 AM
I've seen the photos at T. Camaro of your driprails. Since you need a roof skin too I'd suggest asking the shipper for a return label and have them send full AMD quarters. Use panel adhesive for the entire roof skin perimeter except the A-pillars and sails, they are to be welded solid.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Hurst Shifter Adjusting Blocks/Rods on: October 01, 2014, 10:24:15 AM
I grab my torch right away for anything that is stubborn enough to require long term penetrant soaking. Why wait days when a job can be done in minutes?
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: September 30, 2014, 07:44:22 PM
Ive order quarter skins,

In my opinion and as someone with a couple decades of experience, full quarters are easier and a superior repair compared to skins. I'd suggest AMD qrts unless you prefer early stamped NOS tin. Here is a thread on AMD quarters with comparisons to GM and other repro tin. http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=212160&highlight=67+amd+quarter+panels
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Hours of body part install on: September 24, 2014, 09:58:50 PM

When I looked at the car there where only two questionable things.   
I've seen the photos of the car and there were many indications the car was a POS. It is best to have someone with auto body knowledge inspect a car prior to purchase.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Got Rust? on: September 23, 2014, 06:26:53 AM
A new complete convertible bottom chassis assembly can be purchased for $4200. Just put the top of this car on it. A coupe bottom is $3900.
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Hours of body part install on: September 17, 2014, 10:50:49 AM
   A dynacorn body is not plug and play. They require mods for parts fit and panel alignment. So you'll have to add an hourly rate to the body purchase price. You are better off buying a project car that someone has started or a better shell. Entire structure assemblies can also be purchsed and all you have to do is drop on the top half.  

   Crash book prices apply to 1967 and are for GM panels on a new car back then. Repro installation base prices can increase depending on mods required.
A shop should provide a price range. Any shop that gives a set price is bound to become a problem when diving into a pile of rot. From what I recall from the photos of your car, it's pretty much toast. I tell customers to look at AMD's price guide to see what an average price can be. And these are not set in stone. http://amdinstallation.com/prices.html

   The level of quality you want greatly influences cost.

   I would strongly suggest getting references, looking at work performed by the shop and talking to their customers. I had a car shipped to me for a roof skin and tailpanel installation. New quarters were just installed by another shop but over rotten driprails and roof skin. So I had to cut the quarters off off and scrap them. The shop sold him Gmark doors and fenders that were junk. Those I replaced with GM parts.
After replacing all exterior panels on the car the customer could not afford to have me take the job to final paint. So the car was shipped 9 hours back to its home. After he had it painted the car was shipped back to me and I had to redo some of their work. More needs to be corrected but finances won't allow it. Save a penny, waste a dollar.

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