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76  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 open element air cleaner lid on: November 24, 2009, 12:22:00 PM
Forget what I said.  I was incorrect.  I was thinking of another engine in one of my cars that didn't have a PCV valve.  Sorry.
77  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 open element air cleaner lid on: November 24, 2009, 12:17:35 PM
To the best of my knowledge no 1969 Z/28 came with a PCV valve.  So the air cleaner lid with the notation about positive crankcase ventilation would be incorrect for a Z/28 302.  If I am wrong about this I'm sure other more knowledgable posters will correct me.  I want to learn as much as I can about first gen Z/28's as I own a 1969 Z/28 RS with original engine and darn if I can find a PCV valve anywhere on it. 
78  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: past history of 69 camaro on: August 28, 2009, 11:36:03 AM
If you have by chance the warranty booklet that came with the car originally it would hopefully have the protecto-plate still attached to it which should have the original owner's name and address.  Even if the metal protecto-plate is missing, the warranty booklet should have the selling dealership's imprint in ink on the rear of the booklet. 
79  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 factory 8 track stereo on: August 16, 2009, 04:05:01 PM
The Camaro White Book lists a Stereo Tape System, option U57, being installed in 2, 746 Camaros that year.  The Illustrated Camaro Recognition Guide stated it was mounted below the heater and included 4 speakers, but it was not available with air conditioning, Special Instrumentation, or radio with a rear speaker.  Since the Special Instrumentation included the gauges mounted on a console, along with a clock also on the console, it would seem that the 8 track tape deck was not available with the optional gauge package. 
80  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: what if on: July 06, 2009, 11:03:28 AM
I can only answer for myself.  If it was me I would keep it stock.  I have always been a fan of original, survivor or restored, and keeping a car stock. 
81  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 to 2010 on: May 14, 2009, 11:25:15 AM
Yeah I agree hotrod and rich.  That is what I was trying to say in my earlier post.  I have always disliked that Chrysler 300 high sides, squashed top look.  In one driving review for the new 2010 Camaro I read in one auto magazine they mentioned that the rear view out the passenger side was too small.  Give me a 1967-69 for timeless styling and class.  Even a 1970-73 has timeless styling in my opinion.  The new 2010 Camaro will have to grow on me I guess; haven't seen one in person yet. 
82  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 to 2010 on: May 12, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
I'll take the 1969 without any hesitation.  To me the 2010 looks too, I can't think of the words I want to use, too thick, or too high from the rocker panels to the bottom of the windows.  Makes it appear very unaerodynamic. 
83  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 front RS turn signal lens trim on: March 31, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
Does any know if a 11d rs z built in California would have the trim? Thanks John
My 01C built Z/28 RS built in California does not have the trim.  I don't know when it was used for sure.  I remember reading about it somewhere but haven't been able to find where I read it.  If memory serves me right it was either used early in '69 production then dropped or only became available late in '69 production; I want to say the latter. 
84  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Engine Decals on: February 22, 2009, 05:31:35 PM
I'm only going by memory here so bear with me.  I am under the impression that the original engine decals that went on the air cleaner tops circa 1960's and early 1970's, that had the engine cid, turbo fire for small blocks, turbo jet for big blocks, and the horsepower, had the adhesive on the back of a thin piece of cardboard something like the thickness of one side of a manila folder.  On the top of the cardboard was a silver foil with the info in red.   Does this sound correct?  It seems all new repos are just mylar with the lettering on the top and adhesive on the back but no cardboard in between.  Does anyone know where I might be able to get an original decal or a repo one with the thin cardboard in between?  I need one for a 1969 Z/28.  Thank you. 
85  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: dog bone tread on: January 27, 2009, 12:30:19 PM
 That tread pattern sounds familiar.  The first thought that popped into my mind is that they were made by Dunlop.  Don't take my word for it though, just a guess based on past memories.  Hopefully someone else on here can give you a definitive answer.   
86  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Code Stamping on Block on: December 05, 2008, 12:53:15 PM
Thanks for the info.  I'll try to get a good photo when I can and post it.  The engine is installed in the car and the pad is painted over. 
87  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Engine Code Stamping on Block on: December 03, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
In every picture I've seen of the codes stamped on the plate in front of the passenger side head on the block it shows the nine character code first followed by the seven character engine production code (reading from left to right).  On my engine the seven character code comes first followed by just the 6 digits from the VIN, or I haven't been able to see the 1,9, and then a N or L.  Is this possible, a mistake on the assembly line, or is my engine probably a restamp that was done incorrectly?  My car is a Los Angeles car built the 3rd week in Jan., 1969.  Thanks guys for all your helpful knowledge.   
88  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Decoding Numbers on Muncie Trans on: November 07, 2008, 02:13:08 PM
Thanks for the info, Kurt.  Is there any way to tell externally whether my trans is a M20, M21, or M22?   
89  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Decoding Numbers on Muncie Trans on: November 06, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
I've been the owner of a 1969 Z/28 RS for 12 years now but only recently began checking the numbers and coding in great detail.  I have been able to decode my VIN, trim tag, protect-o-plate, chassis broadcast sheet, engine stamping, and rear end stamping.  They all point to the car being a real Z with the RS option, original engine, and original rearend.  I'm sure the tranny is not original though as I could find no number on it that matched the one on the POP. 

Here are the numbers I was able to get of the passenger side of the trans:

3857584 GM
3885, then either a O, C, or G, followed by 10

Thanks guys for your help.  I enjoy this website, read it almost daily, and have learned a lot about Camaros from the experts on here. 

90  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Drag Raced 1969 Z on: October 30, 2008, 12:10:54 PM
Thanks again for the info you do remember.  Unfortunately the original owner does not remember the name of the next owner who drag raced the car. 
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