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826  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Paint on floor pans on: May 15, 2008, 04:37:10 PM
I have a Norwood 69 Z Olympic Gold RS car that is at the painter now, and I need to confirm or get your comments on the following:

Background info:

1. Currently, there is surface rust on the underside of the car, but I can see gray primer in various areas that had oil etc.  had leaked on the underside of the car.
2. I understand that some cars came from the factory with gray primer as my car has on the underside and others were painted black. I see many cars that have been restored painted black on the underside, but not many with the gray primer.

Questions:

Is it correct for the underside to have the gray primer then the body color overspray then the black overspray due to the RS option?
A few months back there was a Lemans Blue RS Z car that was a high point car that had a gray primer underside with the overspray as I have explained. If anyone remembers that car and discussion was that car done right?

Thanks
827  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: sub frame painting on: May 12, 2008, 05:39:24 AM
There really is no reference manual other than Jerry McNeish's Book. If you don't have it I recomend that be one of the first things you buy.
http://www.z28camaro.com/publications.html
It will give you the correct finishes on everything.

As far as over spray and etc... you are going to have to carefully clean and see what you find.
There are alot of very good threads over on the yenko.net site showing highly detailed restorations from the Super Car Workshop among others... they are very accurate in their replication of returning cars to how they find them... paint runs and etc on firewalls and sub frames etc.

Speaking of firewalls...I am NOT going to cover up my original P T B stampings. I know I can reproduce them but I plan on protecting them and the trim tag before painting. I may just try to touch up the firewall. But the inner fenders and the radiator support etc. need new paint. I dont want to make it look goofy of course but there will be trial and error.

I have Jerry's book. I got it the first week I had the car. I will plow through the websites and probably bug you too! I am in no hurry so I hope to do it right.
828  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: sub frame painting on: May 09, 2008, 05:30:28 AM
Yep and Endura... forgot about that... how authentic are you going back with the resto? Drips over spray the whole nine yards? I know the interior might as well be new... it is beautiful... Gold done right looks Killer...

here are some pics of a 70 Judge Conv I painted Gold...


That is a good question. I want the car to look as it did when it left the factory but I dont have any reference material to help guide me. When I did my Corvette I had the NCRS manual. Do you know of a reference manaul to use or should I research this site?

Thanks,

James

and a link to more...
http://www.crossroadspaper.com/Judge_Convertible_photo_gallery.htm

829  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: sub frame painting on: May 08, 2008, 09:39:23 PM
Thanks in advance for the pics...
I kinda wish I would have taken on painting the car for you... It was so original, like the black one.
It will be extremely nice when it is done. OG RS, no spoilers flat hood and V-top... can't wait to see it.
and enduro bumper Smiley
830  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: sub frame painting on: May 08, 2008, 06:01:06 AM
Welcome over here Lawrence... how is the Resto coming? Can't wait to see the OG car when it is done...
Sub frame was painted when it came from he manufacturer... not very good paint though.
Most of the time the paint sticks to the line clips and makes it appear as though there is no paint under them.


Thanks James.
We are suppose to take the car to the painters shop next week. I still need to remove the brake and fuel lines. I hope to get that done some time this weekend. It has been fun taking the car apart. I dont know if you remember the interior of the car but it is pretty much mint. When taking it out I could tell it had not been touched since March '69 when it was installed. The carpet date coded tag was on the carpet, the gauges had a date coded sticker on them, all the hardware was there etc. Pretty much the same for the mechanicals but not as virgin. Pretty cool stuff. I hope we can save all the original body panels. I would rather pay more for the body man to make patch panels than pay for repo body panels.

I will shoot you some pics.
831  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / sub frame painting on: May 07, 2008, 06:39:27 AM
Was the sub frame painted prior to installation? Was the fuel line on the car prior to sub frame painting? I just took my fuel line loose last night and the sub frame under the fuel line bracket is pretty much unpainted.

Thank you,

L Shaw
832  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Shifter on: April 28, 2008, 08:42:35 PM
It is on the flat part of the handle you can't see.

Got you...thanks
833  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: YH Rally Wheel date code vs car assembly date? on: April 27, 2008, 06:34:40 PM
My 03D Norwood car has K-19-2-28 wheels.
834  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Shifter on: April 27, 2008, 06:01:54 PM
from what i can see, it looks good. the number on the shifter body should be 3138. the shift handle should be 5325

I found the 3138 on the shifter, but could not find the 5325 on the handle. Where should I look? As a side note it does not look like the shifter handle has ever been separated from the shifter. Also I found the following below "Hurst Competition Plus" 29D35J" any idea what this sequence of numbers and letters signifys?

Thanks
835  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Shifter on: April 27, 2008, 05:12:41 AM
from what i can see, it looks good. the number on the shifter body should be 3138. the shift handle should be 5325

ok I will check for the numbers.

Thanks
836  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Shifter on: April 26, 2008, 08:47:40 AM
Can you guys tell me if this is an original shifter?
837  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: kick panel cables on: April 24, 2008, 06:48:30 PM
That is a great idea. Thanks alot.
838  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / kick panel cables on: April 22, 2008, 05:31:55 AM
The cables for the astro ventilation (upper vents) in my 69 Z has broken plastic on the outside of the cable. Plastic is all there just split clean. Cable is fine just the hard plastic has dry rotted I guess. I was considering trying to fix the cables. Any ideas on how to glue or adher the hard plastic together so when you push the knob in on the kick panel the cable will push through the plastic.
839  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: White wire under dash on: April 22, 2008, 05:26:28 AM
Thats right! I have already forgotten about that! Man I hate to think how many times I am going to have to bug you guys about other itmes that I have forgotten about. Thank goodness I have an AIM.
840  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / White wire under dash on: April 21, 2008, 06:59:30 PM
I am taking my car apart so I can get it painted. While removing the interior/dash noticed a white wire that was strung from one end of the dash to another. The wire appears to be for the courtesy lights, but my car did not come with courtesy lights. Did the factory put this wire in regardless of the option? BTW my car has not been taken apart previously....sure does not look like it anyway...lots of factory suff still in place.

Thanks
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