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421  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 V32 rear bumper guard on: July 08, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
What is the length of the bolt and the OD of the washer ? The AMK is 15/16 long w/.88 OD washer but I believe that the OD is too small for the application.
Bob
FWIW both sides were the same - the #3 bolt with that captured thick/dished washer, nothing else.  The car was repainted (poorly, in a similar color) when I got it back in mid 80's so I'm not certain the bumper was ever off the car.  I noticed the washer on mine seems slightly larger in diameter than the 3872455 they show in the AMK catalog.  The bolt isn't all that long to start with, don't know if they'd have another washer underneath this or enough thread to accommodate one.
422  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / AIM Nor. or Nor.& Los. on: July 08, 2010, 08:22:55 AM
Does the AIM pertain to Nor. or Nor. and Los. built units? Where was the AIM as a document composed? I have noticed that some of the hardware used in Los. built units is of a different supplier than Nor. Would there be differences in structural components?
Bob
423  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 rally sport relay bracket on: July 08, 2010, 07:41:57 AM
Look at Z22 B6 view A that shows the correct placement of the holes.
You are correct about B7, but when using the AIM, sometimes the small details in the drawings are not completely correct but it is the best we have.
Look on TC ( restoration) where I have a discussion on this same topic and there are several examples of the bracket location.
Bob
I'll have to dig out old photos before it was restored.  Thought we replaced the RH fender, not the driver side.  One is original.  One cage nut could have been lost off the bracket at some point.  Odd though, looking at Z22 B7 it looks like they only show one screw 3855554.   
424  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 rally sport relay bracket on: July 07, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
Petes L48,
The relay bracket looks original but it is mounted incorrectly. The hole being used to mount the bracket is for the wiring harness. The factory drilled two additional holes forward of that hole. Get a copy of the 67 AIM (Assembly Instruction Manual ) and look under UPC Z22 B6 view A for the correct fender piercing. The AIM is not always completely correct but defiantly worth the $20.00 and I would suggest everyone have a copy , and even all three (67,68.69) years.
Bob
This is what was in my 11B LOS car, believed to be original

http://s911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/RAP617983/Camaro/67%20RS%20relay%20bracket%20and%20bolt/?albumview=slideshow

I also included a pic of the fender which is also believed to be original.  Only has one hole, and the bracket only has one cage nut but an available square hole for a second nut.
   
425  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 V32 rear bumper guard on: July 07, 2010, 06:28:27 PM
Petes L48,
I want to thank you for the great pictures but I still have one question. Was there a large washer under the bolt #3 with the captured washer?
It looks like the factory could have replaced #3(screw & L. washer asm.),#4(spl. washer) with a bolt and conical washer. The thick conical washer would have the same function as the L. washer and spl. washer.
Now, can any one confirm this that has an original 67 NOR V32 option. There may be a difference between LOS and NOR. bolts.
Bob
RE: the #3 bolt, I think this is what you were looking for.

Here's what was in my LOS 11Bcar, I believe these are original. 

http://s911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/RAP617983/Camaro/67%20rear%20large%20bumper%20bracket/?albumview=slideshow

426  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct 4 screws for the 69 4 speed boot retaining ring. on: July 07, 2010, 05:52:21 PM
Look in 69 AIM UPC M11 A1 #7 9425317 screw AMK # B-11111 8-18x3/8" chrome 12@ $3.00 min. order $30.00.
Bob
What about the screws for the non console chrome ring?
427  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 low fuel light? on: July 02, 2010, 04:37:39 PM
Look at RPO code U17 if you install the Gauge package. Check out the AIM under UPC U17 A1, gives a lot of detail on the gauge wiring harness.
Bob
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 ???I could not find a RPO code in 67 for a low fuel warning light. Was this option available in 67?  If so, where would it appear? On the dash or in the gauge package? Was it just a warning light or did it say Low Fuel? Reason I ask, I am in the process of installing a new underdash harness in my 67 Camaro. I have the gauge package on the floor console and it is a automatic. There is a connection I can't find where its goes from the harness. I have all the dash hooked up, the glove box light, ash tray light , cigarette lighter etc etc. Or is this there in case some one has it and instead of having to buy a special harness it is included in the harness.? I bought the harness through Rick's First Gen. Pretty simple to install and really cleans up the underdash.

dab67
428  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct 4 screws for the 69 4 speed boot retaining ring. on: July 02, 2010, 04:07:26 PM
Pan tapping screw 8-18x7/8 31od , no washer, chrome.
AMK has them B-11150 8pcs for $3.00, $30.00 min. order.
Bob
Can anyone tell me the type of screw and whether it has a captured washer or not and the type of anodizing; for the retaining ring for a 4 speed car with a console?

Thanks,
Will
429  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 cross-member to sub-frame mounting hardware on: June 23, 2010, 06:19:24 PM
With approx. 900,000 cross-member bolts used in 67 there must be someone with a picture of an original bolt.
Bob
430  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 rally sport relay bracket on: June 21, 2010, 01:01:05 PM
Buddy,
Do they also have three hash marks?
Is the washer captured or part of the bolt?
Bob
the originals on my 67 rs/ss are rbw head markings, and the washers are attached.
buddy
431  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 rally sport relay bracket on: June 12, 2010, 09:36:54 AM
SSMUNDY,
Thanks for the reply, and yes those are the screws I am looking for, but I am trying to find the description and head markings of original screws.
You would think that with almost 65,000 RS units being built there would be a couple of originals around to get a consensus.
I am also trying Team Camaro and have had some responce but head markings are still a concern.
432  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 67 rally sport relay bracket on: June 10, 2010, 09:51:17 AM
Anyone have a description of the original 67 screws #2-38?5554 that are used to hold the relay bracket asm. to the fender, shown in AIM Z22 B7?
Thanks.
Bob
433  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 396 power steering hose question on: June 07, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
KurtS,
The 69 AIM N40 A9 shows your replacement hose to be correct for a SB.The one rick has is for a BB, smaller s bend.
I think the the s bend was an attempt to gain a little power steering fluid cooling.
Also note the sleeves on both lines. I see your replacement has the sleeve and ricks still does not have the sleeves.
Sleeves are not repo-ed.
Bob
That length is real close to my hose. I'm guessing that's what it is - the bends look close.

Per my 11/68 parts book, for 67-68, there's 2 V8 pressure hoses.
One for 67 327 and 350. One for 67 396 and all 68 V8's.
434  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 396 power steering hose question on: June 07, 2010, 09:16:45 AM
The exposed rubber section on my 67-68  hose is 18 1/2". Does not have s-bend, looks like the one ricks sells.
The two hoses you indicated to would be for v-8 and l-6 correct?
Bob

Hmm, wonder if my hose is the 67-68 hose? There's supposed to be two different 67-68 ones, but everyone only sells one version these days:
http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-power-steering-pressure-hose-1967-1968.html

The exposed rubber section on mine is 19" long btw, if someone has one of these laying around to compare.
435  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 67 crossmember to subframe mounting hardware on: June 06, 2010, 06:37:17 PM
Have done a search, but the question about the description of the original hardware was never completely answered.
The picture of an original bolt can no longer be opened.
So, can someone with an original 67, with original 67 hardware, be so kind as to give us a description of the bolts, washers, lock washers and nuts? I would like to have a description of original 67 hardware because 68,69 hardware may have changed. If you have 68,69 original hardware please give description so others with those years may benefit.
Thanks,
Bob
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