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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Part numbers for 67 front and rear glass reveal clips on: Today at 09:38:14 PM
My 69 P&A only goes up to group 9.777 and have tried searches.  Does anyone have the GM part numbers for the front and rear glass reveal molding clips.
I want to order the clips from W&E Sales CO but they require a part number. They have many to choose from with no sizes given.
Bob
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67 vent window rubber, clips ? on: October 18, 2014, 10:35:40 PM
There must have been a reason why GM installed them.
Anybody???
Bob
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 18, 2014, 10:01:19 PM
Sauron
Which of the two procedures would produce the best long term solution for application in Florida? I prefer to use a gun but I am not a professional.
Bob
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 17, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
Interesting observation and topic! I checked my housings and found the 05B NOR used Phillip heads on L&R side and the 04B LOS used Phillips on one side and hex heads on the other.
I don't know if it was a NOR vs. LOS thing or a transition from one head type to the other starting around 04B (good idea for a poll?). I doubt it would be one of those 'as long as it fits' usage being the assembler would have to switch out the tool to screw them on.
  I attached images of the NOR and LOS fasteners and a closeup of the hex fastener marking  used on the LOS tail housing.

Mike
My Nor 05E are all hex with G&L head markings.
Bob
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 17, 2014, 10:46:41 AM
Sauron,
When using the SEM Texture Coating is the PPG 9317 topcoat sprayed wet on wet?
Bob
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 16, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
Sauron,
Please explain dash faces. Are you talking about the interior metal trim for 67 and dash in 68 and 69?
Bob
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 13, 2014, 11:14:27 PM
Mike,
Yes and the center vent and AC control panel. What thinner is used with the GM reconditioning black? How long does it take to cure? You think the GM paint is a little too glossy? The best I can remember is that the black used had very little gloss if any.
I believe something like the black back ground used on gauges was used on the center vent and control panel. Looking at the factory parts the paint would have to have covered in a single coat as there is no tape edge where the black ends and chrome begins and in some of the corners there is only a mist of paint.
Bob
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring a galvanized finish ??? on: October 12, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
I stand corrected.
Bob
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring a galvanized finish ??? on: October 12, 2014, 07:33:37 PM
Gary,
I would be interested in what you use and how they turned out.
I believe the vinegar is the key to the shine but keeping the shine is another question.
Bob
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 12, 2014, 07:22:26 PM
Have several parts that have been re-chromed and was wondering how the black was applied on factory parts. Looking at the factory pieces there does not seem to be any primer used to promote adhesion but the factory black was perfect after +40 years. You can look in the corners where the paint is thin and there is no signs of chipping or lifting.
I have researched this topic and really do not like the idea of sanding with 600 grit and using etching primer especially on the 67 tail light housings. I spent allot of money to chrome the housings and not destroy the rough definition only to destroy it with primer and paint.
Anyone know how the factory paint was applied and what paint, Sims, Worth, Rustoleum 7777, (?) could be used to get the closest to original?
I am leaning towards a thin slow drying enamel with the possibility of heat to help drying. Something along the lines of the original body painting process.
Bob
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67, front bumper fit problems on: September 15, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
If you take the lower header off, will all the bolts fit in their proper holes? Upper bolts (4) only.
Bob
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67, front bumper fit problems on: September 15, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
Just checked the lower header to bumper fit and angles are very close. Actually the header touches on the end with a small gap in the center, just the opposite of what you have.
You may want to install the hood latch support just to make sure the lower header is in the correct position.
Looks like some big gouges on the right upper of your bumper, could explain the problem.
Bob
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Deltronic Transistor-Controlled Magnetic Pulse amp. plate 3916730 on: September 13, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
KurtS,
Thanks for the reply and yes I have looked at the CRG report but did not answer my question.
I have since found an TI installation sheet #3916731 (11-4-66) that shows the early plate 3916730 but does not have part numbers. The early plate is a parallelogram, that is, a lopsided rectangle.
Jim Stubing (Heartbeat City) makes a repo of the 2nd design plate #3954206 that is rectangular in shape and is verified  on page 2 of COPO 3560 TI install sheets #3961574 with part #3954206.
I believe the positioning of the plates on the COPO sheets are drawn incorrectly.
Thanks to Bill Glowacki for copies of the installation sheets. Grin
Bob
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Deltronic Transistor-Controlled Magnetic Pulse amp. plate 3916730 on: September 11, 2014, 06:29:30 PM
Anyone know the difference between OTC amp. plate 3916730 and the plate 3954206 used with the ZL1's? I am talking about the plate that was mounded on the vertical grill support in front of the radiator.
Bob
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67 AIM on: September 04, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
John,
At this point I have no idea what color plug is on the stick. The 69 P&A is the only source for the part # 3896212 w/ a to full mark length of 17 25/32 and a to add length of 18 7/16 that I can find.
Maybe someone with a 67 and 68 P&A can verify my part # 3896212.
The 69 P&A shows 3923239 w/ 17 11/32 to full and 18 7/16 to add for all sb engines and 68 AIM verifies # and gray plug identification. Same dipstick tube and pan as 67 sb engines.
The 69 P&A shows 3951576 w/ 17 5/16 to full and 18 3/16 to add for all sb engines and 69 AIM verifies 3 and green plug identification. Same dipstick tube but new pan 3961399.
Believe 67 Vette used 3862730 w/23 13/64to full and 24 to add w/black plug.
Do not believe 67 used gray plug because of part number change for 68. 68 dipstick added a little more oil to pan.
Anyone else have an idea what style and color was used in 67 and why ?
Bob
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