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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 27, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
Dennis you got me by 500 :-)  Here is a car listed on ebay and his VIN is close to us, funny how the trim tags work out though my VIN is after his but his trim tag is about 9000 higher then mine.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/301250144385?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 19, 2014, 03:07:37 PM
Yes, dealership was not far from Kansas City, to the southwest and not far from the Missouri border, so I figure that I'd have two states to check to find any leads for this car.  Anyone know of an old friend, neighbor or relative in the Kansas City area that bought a Cortez Silver Z/28 in the summer to fall of 1969 at Van Chevrolet drop me a line.  A long shot I'm sure but you never know, never thought I would have even this much information until recently.

Regards,
Jerry K.
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 19, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
Got another awesome piece of memorabilia from Van Chevrolet!! Thanks to LVN 67 I can not thank you enough!!!

Regards,
Jerry K.
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 15, 2014, 08:33:20 AM
Now I know where my car started its journey and I also have a cool dealer emblem to go with it, all because of the fine folks on this board!!!  Thanks CRG!!

Regards,
Jerry

5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 08, 2014, 11:48:21 AM
LVN 67  -  YOU ROCK!!!  Thanks for the information and even considering checking with friends is above and beyond!!

Regards,
Jerry K.
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 07, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
I've been hoping to finally get this info for years, I guess any info would have been cool, but this was awesome and helps in possibly tracking down more info.  Here is what I got:  Production date was 07/02/1969, dealer code 885 in zone 5, dealer was Van Chevrolet, Shawnee Mission, Kansas.  I figured my car must have been one of the last June cars since my trim tag says 06A but based on my VIN being N6647XX.  Any Kansas folks know this dealer?  My car is a 1969 Cortez Silver Z/28, X33D80 flat hood car, original motor and trans, I've had it since 2006 so I figure I am about half way through the restoration :-)

Jerry K.
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: July 01, 2014, 07:07:54 PM
Placement is pretty straight forward because of the guides that are on the back of the emblem.  On the Standard grill it is a given and everyone knows its location that is why I think it looks awkward if it is placed anywhere else, standard, RS or even stripe delete :-).  Wonder if this should be a research project?  Any feedback from the Legend judges on this issue for the RS grill?

Jerry K.
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: July 01, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
Vince, Awesome thanks for the contribution!!!  It does appear to be on the third veritcal though, I think the stripe is the key and the placement of the emblem in relationship should be the same RS vs. Standard.  Any more pictures anyone else has would be great.

Regards,
Jerry K.
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 26, 2014, 06:38:33 AM
Interesting that both RS Z/28s that are for sale at Heartbeat City have the emblem on the third vertical, nice detailed photos of both cars by the way.

Jerry K.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 25, 2014, 12:02:27 PM
Jimmy thanks for not yelling at me  Cheesy  Be careful if you do decide to relocate the emblem, I've seen a post break before when removing the nut.  I'll let you decide if you should put it on the 2nd or 3rd vertical.


Jerry K.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 25, 2014, 09:07:42 AM
Jimmy, Thank you for the contribution, and please I mean no disrespect, but your emblem has been off the car.  And you say "how can you tell mister smarty pants".  Well if you feel behind the Z there are guides that place the emblem on the vertical and horizontal location and behind the numbers there is a guide for placing on the horizontal location.  So the horizontal should split the emblem in half you'll see what I mean once you feel behind it.  I would even say, that in the link I posted the location of where the emblem on the Yellow car is now after restoration might be a click off, I don't think he has the vertical between the two guide marks on the "Z", but that is just from eyeballing it.

Regards,
Jerry K.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 25, 2014, 08:25:49 AM
So then I would submit that the Muscle Car Review cover car could be discounted as a good source regardless of where the emblem was located.  The barn find car has possibilities but I would rely more on pictures closer to the date of sale like the one in the link, that picture was taken very early in the cars life.  I would also like to caveat the purpose of this dialogue is not to tick anyone off, totally not the intention here, just would like to get this important fact correct because the Legend cars are what become the template for others to base their restorations.

Jerry K.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 25, 2014, 06:20:34 AM
Saw the Muscle Car Review cover online, does it look like it has a black bumper?  And are the headlight doors black and not painted as they should be? 
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 24, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
Hi Fred,  No problem asking the question.  That is what this forum is for.  I don't want to make a federal case about it but we can go on and on about the finish of a bolt that most people will never see, but getting one of the most important elements of an ICONIC American automobile correct should be essential.  Again if there is NO documentation then why the point reduction.  So then it comes down to the picture in Jerry's book vs the picture in the link I put up.  The closer to the selling date the picture the more reliable I would contend, so if there is anyone out there with photos when they brought their 1969 RS Z/28 home for the first time and can post them that would be outstanding and go a long way in helping others.  I agree that most people mess up the standard grill emblem.  It makes all the purist cringe and that should be the way we feel with the RS Z/28 grill, it can't be acceptable to be located in more than one place, there is only one that is correct.  So go ahead Fred and move that emblem back, my money says you had it right all along.

Jerry K.
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 23, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
So if there is no documentation, how can he be docked a point?  And if there is no documentation then it was probably assumed that the default was the standard grill location, and I like to go back to how the placement in the grill relates to the stripe.  I'd love to see some more early, early photos like the article if anyone has any.
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