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916  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 14, 2006, 11:23:58 AM
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917  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Drive Train Date Codes vs. Body build date. on: June 13, 2006, 08:04:57 PM
Transmission is restamped.  Muncie didn't start using the A,B, and C suffixes until mid October of 68, The transmission assembly date as written above is from June 26th 1967 P 8 H26A.  Muncie used the last number of the model year, so a 69 should start  with a P9.   You won't find a real muncie with a date before P9R21 with a suffix code on it.  With a definate transmission restamp and a motor cast 11 months before the car was built you can bet it's been restamped as well.
918  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cowl induction woes on: June 13, 2006, 04:28:52 PM
What part of the air cleaner is hitting the hood?  Is it sitting all the way down on the carb.  Do you have tower type raditor hose clamps?  Many a person has found out that the air cleaner housing is actually hitting the radiator clamp on the thermostat housing and it is not sitting all the way down on the carb body.
919  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Fuel guage goes past full on: June 13, 2006, 04:25:30 PM
Nope, I'm backwards, high resistance (open circuit) means the gauge will read above full.  Sender produces 90 ohms full, 0 ohms empty.  But if your getting 8 v at the connector in the trunk, then the wire isn't open circuited between the gauge and that connector, it has to be open circuited between the connector and the sender, or the sender and ground.  Are you reading 0 ohms (short) or infinite resistance (open) when you check from the connector to the sender?  If your reading 0 ohms the guage should read empty.

When you disconnect the gauge, stick a wire into the connectro and then ground the other end.  If the gauge goes to empty then the gauge and all the wiring between the guage and the connector is fine.  Check the ground wire on the sender (it doesn't ground to the tank).  Just about dead center at the front edge of the tank there is a black wire that comes from the sender that is attached to the sheetmetal under the trunk with a screw.  That is the sender ground wire, make sure its there before you think about pulling the tank, especially if you have had work done in that area recently, like a muffler replacement, or brakeline work.
920  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Fuel guage goes past full on: June 13, 2006, 05:37:20 AM
8 volts is fine, if the guage reads past full then the sender wire is grounded somewhere, if you disconnect it in the trunk and the gauge goes to empty then the gauge is fine, and the ground is between the connector in the trunk and the sender.
921  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cowl induction woes on: June 13, 2006, 05:29:42 AM
The 302 air cleaner spacer ring is about 2" high, the 350 ring is about 4" high, so if you have a 2" high ring and the hood won't close, you have no option except to cut the ring down to the proper height (or remove it).  If you got a 4" high ring then ou have the wrong one.
922  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Question of build date vs. rear assembly date on: May 31, 2006, 10:21:50 PM
My 69 Pacecar has an 0429 built 3.07 12 bolt non posi rear axle.  The car rolled off the assembly line sometime just before midnight on 4/30/69.
923  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 air conditioning duct work on: May 31, 2006, 10:19:02 PM
Part number 9 is just a strip of adhesive foam strip about 1/2" wide, it fits inside the upper part of the ductwork and sticks to the outside of the lower part.
924  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Walnut or Rosewood?? on: May 16, 2006, 07:39:03 PM
Not so fast.  Early 69s with RPO N34 have been observed with Walnut woodgrain steering wheels.  I beleive the transition is sometime in the early October of 68 time frame.  But the majority of 69s are equipped with rosewood wheels.
925  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 8 track on: April 22, 2006, 07:46:57 PM
When you ordered the 8 track with either the AM or AM/FM mono radios the U80 feature was included with the 8 track.  What most people don't realize is that the 8 track and the radios are two completely separate systems.  You can't run both of them at the same time.  there is a switch in the 8 track unit that kills power to the radio when a tape is inserted.  That same switch also connected and disonnected the right rear speaker (belonging to the 8 track) to the output of the U80 fader on the radio.  The mono radios then used the dash speaker and the right rear speaker just like if they had ordered the U80 by itself.

The AM/FM Multiplex radio shared all 4 speakers with the 8 track and all four speakers were switched back and forth by that switch in the 8 track.  The multiplex 8 track is a completely different part number than the base 8 track though, as it has an extras wiring harness on it that brings the output of the multiplex unit into the 8 track player.
926  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 Z28 engine dates on: April 22, 2006, 06:19:16 AM
If it's a February of 69 Z28 there will be an X33 or X77 on the cowl tag.  Doesn't get much simpler than that, (unless the tag is missing).
927  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 8 track on: April 22, 2006, 06:12:47 AM
That's because the 8 track added 4 speakers to the car, but there is a connection within the 8 track harness that allows the use of the U80 rear fader on the mono radios.  It shares the right rear deck speaker with the radio.
928  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 8 track on: April 21, 2006, 06:56:33 PM
8 tracks were available with any radio.  There was 4 different 8 track units used (in 69 anyway), the was two 2 knob units that mounted under the dash, and two 4 knob units  that mounted forward facing on the console.  If you had a console, you got the console mounted version, otherwise it was mounted below the glove box on the passenger side of the dash.  The AM (RPO U63) and AM/FM mono radios (RPO U69) used the dash mounted speaker only unless they were ordered with RPO U80 "Auxilliary Speaker" and then they had a second speaker in the rear pacakage tray and a dash mounted fader knob.  The 8 tracks used 4 speakers (2 front, 2 rear) which they shared with the AM/FM stereo radios (RPO U79).  The mono radios shared the right rear speaker with the 8 track (ie RPO U80 was included with RPOU57 when combined with RPO U63 or RPOU69) but otherwise the two systems are completely separate.

If you looking to buy an original setup, be prepared to cough up about 1000 bucks.  And don't buy a console mounted one without the armrest pad, as they aren't repro'ed and are very hard to find.
929  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: April 20, 2006, 07:55:59 PM
Only F70-14 was available, but you could get them in blackwall, redline, and a few white letter variaties.
930  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 Camaro Cowl Tag Question on: April 10, 2006, 10:09:09 PM
When was it built (month and week), how many fuel lines underneath it, does it have front discs, 4 speed or automatic, if it's a 4 speed where is the speedometer cable hole in the firewall down near the fuse block, or at the front edge of the transmission tunnel above the accelerator linkage?
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