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871  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 ss 350 x55 code on: July 25, 2006, 05:50:11 AM
No M21's in small block SS's ony M20's.  05C is a bit late for a 618 block, probably want an 010 block with 441 heads,
872  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dash paint color on: July 22, 2006, 10:13:22 PM
Top of dash is 0 gloss black Ditzler code DIA-9317, front of the dash was semi gloss black Ditzler code DIA-9266.  The top of the dash usually has a suede additive in it that gave it kind of a slightly textured look.  The vast majority of the painted interior parts were painted with the semi gloss paint.  Things like rear window defogger grilles, speaker grilles, console compartment door, and the corner escuthion (trim pieces) on the rear window were about the only other flat black items.
873  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dash paint color on: July 22, 2006, 07:16:01 AM
On a black interior car (standard 712, 713 or Deluxe 714 or 715) everything on the interior is black except for the chrome astro vent bezels and balls, and the clear handles on window cranks.  Exterior color played no part in the colors of interior components.
874  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Can anyone decode? on: July 12, 2006, 05:41:28 AM
Its a 69 model year Saginaw 4 speed built on September 24th 1968 (could also be 1969 depending on what the first number of the VIN stamp on the transmission is 5 or 7).  The R indicates its a Saginaw, would be a P if it was a Muncie.
875  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: stripe question on: July 01, 2006, 08:30:40 AM
You could not order stripe colors, you got the stripe color that GM determined went with the cars color.  The only possibly modification to the standard color came about if you ordered certain color vinyl tops.  For example a hugger orange Z28 would normally have had white stripes, unless you ordered a black vinyl top and then you got black stripes.  The only choice you had with stripes was to delete them, in wich case your trim tag would have dashes on it inplace of a paint color to indicate it was a special paint instruction car.
876  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 14, 2006, 11:23:58 AM
Just click on the envelope on the left side of the screen under any posters name and you will get their email address.
877  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Drive Train Date Codes vs. Body build date. on: June 13, 2006, 08:04:57 PM
Transmission is restamped.  Muncie didn't start using the A,B, and C suffixes until mid October of 68, The transmission assembly date as written above is from June 26th 1967 P 8 H26A.  Muncie used the last number of the model year, so a 69 should start  with a P9.   You won't find a real muncie with a date before P9R21 with a suffix code on it.  With a definate transmission restamp and a motor cast 11 months before the car was built you can bet it's been restamped as well.
878  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cowl induction woes on: June 13, 2006, 04:28:52 PM
What part of the air cleaner is hitting the hood?  Is it sitting all the way down on the carb.  Do you have tower type raditor hose clamps?  Many a person has found out that the air cleaner housing is actually hitting the radiator clamp on the thermostat housing and it is not sitting all the way down on the carb body.
879  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Fuel guage goes past full on: June 13, 2006, 04:25:30 PM
Nope, I'm backwards, high resistance (open circuit) means the gauge will read above full.  Sender produces 90 ohms full, 0 ohms empty.  But if your getting 8 v at the connector in the trunk, then the wire isn't open circuited between the gauge and that connector, it has to be open circuited between the connector and the sender, or the sender and ground.  Are you reading 0 ohms (short) or infinite resistance (open) when you check from the connector to the sender?  If your reading 0 ohms the guage should read empty.

When you disconnect the gauge, stick a wire into the connectro and then ground the other end.  If the gauge goes to empty then the gauge and all the wiring between the guage and the connector is fine.  Check the ground wire on the sender (it doesn't ground to the tank).  Just about dead center at the front edge of the tank there is a black wire that comes from the sender that is attached to the sheetmetal under the trunk with a screw.  That is the sender ground wire, make sure its there before you think about pulling the tank, especially if you have had work done in that area recently, like a muffler replacement, or brakeline work.
880  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Fuel guage goes past full on: June 13, 2006, 05:37:20 AM
8 volts is fine, if the guage reads past full then the sender wire is grounded somewhere, if you disconnect it in the trunk and the gauge goes to empty then the gauge is fine, and the ground is between the connector in the trunk and the sender.
881  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cowl induction woes on: June 13, 2006, 05:29:42 AM
The 302 air cleaner spacer ring is about 2" high, the 350 ring is about 4" high, so if you have a 2" high ring and the hood won't close, you have no option except to cut the ring down to the proper height (or remove it).  If you got a 4" high ring then ou have the wrong one.
882  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Question of build date vs. rear assembly date on: May 31, 2006, 10:21:50 PM
My 69 Pacecar has an 0429 built 3.07 12 bolt non posi rear axle.  The car rolled off the assembly line sometime just before midnight on 4/30/69.
883  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 air conditioning duct work on: May 31, 2006, 10:19:02 PM
Part number 9 is just a strip of adhesive foam strip about 1/2" wide, it fits inside the upper part of the ductwork and sticks to the outside of the lower part.
884  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Walnut or Rosewood?? on: May 16, 2006, 07:39:03 PM
Not so fast.  Early 69s with RPO N34 have been observed with Walnut woodgrain steering wheels.  I beleive the transition is sometime in the early October of 68 time frame.  But the majority of 69s are equipped with rosewood wheels.
885  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 8 track on: April 22, 2006, 07:46:57 PM
When you ordered the 8 track with either the AM or AM/FM mono radios the U80 feature was included with the 8 track.  What most people don't realize is that the 8 track and the radios are two completely separate systems.  You can't run both of them at the same time.  there is a switch in the 8 track unit that kills power to the radio when a tape is inserted.  That same switch also connected and disonnected the right rear speaker (belonging to the 8 track) to the output of the U80 fader on the radio.  The mono radios then used the dash speaker and the right rear speaker just like if they had ordered the U80 by itself.

The AM/FM Multiplex radio shared all 4 speakers with the 8 track and all four speakers were switched back and forth by that switch in the 8 track.  The multiplex 8 track is a completely different part number than the base 8 track though, as it has an extras wiring harness on it that brings the output of the multiplex unit into the 8 track player.
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