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871  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 Z database on: October 23, 2006, 09:59:54 PM
Tags real.  Did it originally belong to that car, who knows without knowing the VIN and more of the features on the car.  Someone along the way one of the car's owners broke the cardinal rule of cowl tags, which is you NEVER remove it from the car for any reason.  Once it's off, the car will almost always be questioned.  Especially when it's put back on with Home Depot rivets.
872  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: AC Delco AM Radio (differences for 68 vs 69) on: October 23, 2006, 05:40:36 AM
Nope, 67 and 68 are close, but 69's are completely different.  69's are similar (but different) to the 70 to 73 or 74 radios.  The angles of the dash are different between the 68 and 69 so the 68 radios have a different face on them than the 69's which are essentially flat.
873  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: STANDARD INT WITH DELUXE SEAT BELTS on: October 22, 2006, 07:54:03 AM
Even deluxe interior cars came with standard belts.  Deluxe belts were a separate option that had to be ordered if you wanted it.
874  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Starter part number on: October 19, 2006, 09:13:21 PM
You guys are mixing Production part numbers and service part numbers.  The 1108338 is the production part number for an L48 with all standard transmissions and late production powerglide transmissions (service part number is 1108418). The  1108420 is the production number for late production TH350 equipped L48s (service part is the same).  Production number is 1108361 for all early production automatics (service part number is also 1108361).  All of these starters will have the production part number stamped on them even if they are a service part (ie if you had an 1108418, the box label would say 1108418 but the starter would be stamped 1108338)

Difference between the 361 and 338 starters is the solenoid assembly housing drive (nose peice) and drive assembly (more or less teeth).  The 420 has the same solenoid  and housing drive as the 361 and the same drive assembly as the 338, but it has a different armature than either the 361 or 338 (more torque?).  There are a few other small part differences between the 3 different starters as well.

I don't know where the production break occured on these starters.  Delco notes them as first jobs, and after jobs, but because the nose peice changed I would ASSUME it was around the time the blocks with the offset starter holes came online (3970010).

1108367 is a production part number for a 68 302 or 327/210HP, or a 69 302, 307, and 327, or a 1970 307 starter.

The 1108418 mentioned above is the production number for a 69 396 (all transmissions), and a 70 396 and 454 with standard transmission starter.  Service part is 1108400.

Source is the 67-72 721A Camaro Master Parts Manual  Section 2.0 Starter Assemblies.
875  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decoding on: October 16, 2006, 05:36:29 AM
If it had stripes they would be black.  Since its a convertible it won't have Z28 stripes unless its a pace car (720 coded interior).  If its an SS it would have had black Hockey stick stripes.  Other than that, your going to have to rely on evidence on the car to find any stripes.
876  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 wiper transmission and cowl plenum area color on: September 30, 2006, 07:11:11 AM
I don't think you can say that a car with black stripes had the lower cowl area blacked out.  Thats just overspray from painting the top of the cowl area, which all cars with the Z28 stripes got.  In this case the paint just happens to be black.
877  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 wiper transmission and cowl plenum area color on: September 22, 2006, 07:52:42 AM
Yes, the whole car was painted body color, and then the area on top of the cowl was painted stripe color by Fisher.  They were then suppossed to black out the area under the cowl (where the wiper linkage is), but for the most part they didn't seem to do it.  The cowl panel itself was painted and striped (f required) separate from the car by Fisher, and wasn't installed until much later on the GM side of the plant, after the wiper linkage was installed.
878  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: X Codes on: September 16, 2006, 08:48:43 PM
How many fuel lines under the car?
879  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Upper control arm on: August 31, 2006, 06:45:58 PM
Is that a rubber bump stop in the middle of the control arm in the top picture?  If so it's not from a Camaro.
880  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Very early NOR tag question on: August 21, 2006, 06:10:07 AM
Fisher option codes were used from day 1 of production.  Some were added as production went thru the year (like the Z28 and the Big blocks) but others were there all the time.  This tag would have come off a car with a VIN around 12x37N109xxx.  Not really that low a VIN.  If the car has all those options then either they were all added thruoughout the years, or this isn't the original tag.
881  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1968 D88 stripe ? on: August 16, 2006, 03:11:05 PM
882  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Seeking help decoding possible 69 R/s Z/28 Export Broadcast Sheet.... on: August 06, 2006, 07:39:12 PM
It's a body broadcast sheet, not a chassis sheet.  The cope at the bottom isn't 5712, its 5ZL2AA, its the code for the cowl induction hood.  There wasn't anyplace else for it on the Body broadcast Sheet.
883  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 stereo radio diagrams on: August 06, 2006, 07:27:25 AM
Internal circuit diagram, or connection diagram between the multiplexor and the radio?
884  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Firewall marking for Cortez Silver on: August 02, 2006, 08:28:26 PM
Probably to get the right color front end on it on the GM side of the plant.  Code 55 is fairly close to code 53 Glacier Blue, and you'd be surprised how many color blind people ther are out there.
885  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69 Blue Dot Radio - Stereo Adapter? on: August 01, 2006, 05:06:54 AM
Dash speaker is not used (and not even installed) with a Multiplex radio.  The multiplex radios used 2 kick panel and two rear deck speakers only.
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