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826  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: z11 is it a fake? on: May 04, 2007, 11:06:20 AM
If its before 04C then its FAKE.

827  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: z11 is it a fake? on: May 02, 2007, 08:05:34 PM
The hardtops aren't pace cars.



I love pulling the Z10 owners chain on that subject.  Let the flames begin.
828  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN and cowl tag on: April 19, 2007, 08:34:06 AM
First U is the lower lower body paint code, second is the upper body paint code.  In your case both the upper and lower body is the same color.  If you had a Vinyl top then the second letter would be replaced with a number like 6 for white vinyl, or 2 for black.
829  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: engine code on: April 14, 2007, 11:32:42 AM
Whatever it is, 350 or 327 it didn't originally come out of a Camaro.  No 327s in a Camaro after 1/1/69.  This engine came out of an Impala, or Chevrolet (full sized) assembled at the LA plant.
830  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Camaro AC on: April 10, 2007, 09:48:11 PM
Nothing on the trim tag will indicate if the car had A/C.  Of course there will be a huge fiberglass box on the passenger side of the engine compartment, whenre the evaporator core is located.  If it has a heater system only there will be a metal peice of ductwork that is about 8" high that runs from the passenger side fender to just behind the passenger side head on the engine.  If the car doesn't have any ductwork on the firewall, and the hole thru the firewall for the ventilation system is roughly 6" tall by 12" wide then the car did not have A/C, if the hole is about 6" wide by 10" tall then the car had a/C.  There is a pnuematic damper under the cowl on the passenger side of the car on a/c cars.  You can see the edge of it sticking out from under the cowl panel on the top of the firewall just inboard of the passenger side hood hinge.  If your dash has a center vent above the heater controls, only one slider on each kickpanel (as opposed to a pair of sliders on each), no vent on the drivers side kickpanel then the car came with A/C.

The control on an A/C car will say bi-level on the slider closest to the driver, and have a 4 speed fan switch across the top of the control.  Non AC cars only have three speed fans.
831  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Real or Fake Z10? on: April 07, 2007, 06:05:05 PM
Do you actually beleive that the poster was going to bid on the car, and just stumbled upon this thread?  just regeistered today, and his first post. I'll give you 10 to 1 odds the poster is either the guy that has the pile of junk thats on ebay now, or he's the one who sold the tag to him.

If not, lets see a picture of this other alleged 03E Z10 trim tag on the red Camaro.
832  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Real or Fake Z10? on: April 07, 2007, 02:36:37 PM
The guy that originally had the fake Z10 is Al Hill, aka, Fat Alberts in Jackson, TN Some of his ebay names are jaminnow, chevepart, and ringblow, and now 998666.
833  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Real or Fake Z10? on: April 07, 2007, 10:47:20 AM
Seller was 998666 from TN, he's been selling modified, and repro trim tags, some VINs and restamped engine components for atleast the last 8 or 9 months under various different ebay accounts.  The tag ddn't sell, in that auction, but that is tyhpical of his stuff, he either ends it early or puts a very high reserve on it then sells it outside of ebay.  He's scammed quite a few people, some of which are on this site, and Camaros.net.

Heres the old thread on camaros.net talking about this tag and the seller.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99191&highlight=FAKE+Z10
834  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Real or Fake Z10? on: April 07, 2007, 09:41:25 AM
Nice of them to steal the image of the Z10 and Z11 from the CRG report page. Its been on Ebay a couple of times  Heres the tag all by itself, from a January Ebay Auction.




Oh, and its a complete fake, both the tag, and the thought that this car was ever an SS, let alone an RS/SS
835  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: NOS Yenko ZL1 Engine on: April 03, 2007, 11:30:46 AM
I'm sure he left out at least one zero on that 1 of 5 number (and probably more).  I've got a picture somewhere that shows about 8 or ten of them sitting in Yenkos store room.
836  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 x11 on: April 01, 2007, 07:48:49 PM
Not with an X11 Trim tag.  Best it could be is a small block SS with style trim, worst would be an L6 with style trim.  X11 does not indicate the car is an SS, justthat the car has style trim.  An X11 can be a small block SS but it doesn't have to be.
837  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: BETTER TO POST VIN OR NOT?? on: April 01, 2007, 11:56:35 AM
As long as you don't tell them what it is, ie a small block SS with a 4speed transmission, you shouldn't have a problem.  Just ask if anyone has a small block (or big block, or 6 cylinder) motor for VIN XYZ and you shouldn't have any issues.
838  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: X mark on rear bulkhead on: March 31, 2007, 10:19:09 PM
Correct.
839  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: X mark on rear bulkhead on: March 31, 2007, 02:28:39 PM
I wouldn't use an X making on the bulkhead as absolute proof of the car being anything.  I've seen atleast 2 on Ebay where people have added a code to the rear bulkhead.  Fortunately they were stupid enough to put it over the glue residue holding the rear trim upholstery onto the bulkhead.  My point is this marking and alot of other items can and are being faked.  Documentation is the only thing that is going to hold any meaning in the not to distant future, because of all the fakes out there.
840  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl tag 12437 used for both coupe and convertible? on: March 30, 2007, 11:09:16 AM
Its not a production error, the tag indicates the car has a bench seat, which was not available in a convertible.  so the tag has either been swapped, its a fake, or someone made a convertible out of a coupe (that would be really bad).  Can we assume the VIN starts with 12467 (or 12367) so we can rule out the coupe to convertible conversion?
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