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781  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Z10 trim plate on: May 22, 2007, 07:02:54 PM
The last Norwood April VIN recorded by GM is 637106 (this was the last car out the door on the 2nd shift on 4/30/69), and at that point there was at least another 2 days of 04 dated cars in the que (April 30th was a Wednesday).  My car is 6369xx and its an 04L dated car.  636136 is fine for a late 04C built car.
782  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Z10 trim plate on: May 18, 2007, 04:16:28 PM
It's fine.
783  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 RS z/28 Barn Find on: May 15, 2007, 11:13:39 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180115305330&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MT:1

This orange/orange/black convertible is not original, nor was it originally a Big block.  The a/c evaporator housing is from a small block.  Houndstooth wasn't available in convertibles except for the pacecars, I beleive both the orange and yellow houndstooth was announced as being available in Feb or 69 for coupes only.
784  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: YH wheel dates correct for my Z? on: May 14, 2007, 05:36:19 AM
Mine are YJ wheels on an RS/SS.
785  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: YH wheel dates correct for my Z? on: May 13, 2007, 07:02:28 PM
Nope, 04L.  Nearest I can figure it rolled off the assembly line around 10:30 pm on April 30th 1969 as its about 70 VIN numbers prior to the last reported April built car from Norwood.  Was probably started very early in the day on Monday 4/28.

Cowl tag was attached first day of assembly, when the body wasn't much more than a firewall, so the earliest the car could have been started is 4/21.  It took about 3 days to finish the car, so the earliest it would have rolled out of the GM side of the plant is probably late in the day on 4/24.
786  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: YH wheel dates correct for my Z? on: May 13, 2007, 01:18:41 PM
April started on Tuesday in 69, that week would have been part of 03E. The 04C is the week of April 21 to April 25.  I guess it would depend on when your car was built in 04C, but like Kurt says4-21 wheels are probably to late.

My 04L car has 4 wheels dated 3/2/69 (might be 3/12 or 3/22 as there is only a single 2 right at the edge of the valve stem, and I can't see another digit) on it.
787  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 Exterior Color Question on: May 10, 2007, 05:33:21 AM
There are no colors specific to the Z28.  They were available in the same colors any other Camaro was available with.  As afar a special order paint, you could order any current (for the year) GM paint color as a special order.  Stripes would always be either black or white depending on the body's base color.  Again you could probably get a special order stripe color if you knew how to order it.
788  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Jerry, you're on Ebay! on: May 10, 2007, 05:29:07 AM
Ad says he's been hired to certify it as of 5/3, not that he's actually seen it.

Lot of money (75K) for a car painted the wrong color, rear stripes painted like a 68, non original ZL2 hood, and non spoiler car originally (no hole in front crossmember for spoiler support rod).
789  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Strange 67 Cowl Tag on: May 09, 2007, 05:32:58 AM
Its a special order/fleet order code.  Usually applied to an order of multiple cars, or something requiring special approval.  The 0-0 paint code indicates special paint  the code may be for that reason, or maybe the dealer ordered a group of similarly equipped cars, possibly it is a show car of some kind.



05B = Built the Second week of May.
67-12437 = Standard Interior Coupe.
LOS = Built in Van Nuys California.
760 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
Z = (A50) Strato Bucket Seats.
O-O = Car Color is SPECIAL PAINT
H106 = internal plant scheduling code.
Options:
2M = (M35) Powerglide Transmission
2G = (D55) Console front compartment
3S = (Z23) Interior Decor group
3K = (Z21) Deluxe exterior trim
5B = (V31 & V32) Front and Rear Large Bumper Guards

790  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: AM/FM Radio's and Tape players on: May 08, 2007, 05:45:15 AM
Well what do you know.  The Parts Place is now reproducing the 8 track cover pad.  Not cheap by any means though at $129 for a hunk of foam and a sheet of vinyl.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-69-CAMARO-FIREBIRD-CONSOLE-8-TRACK-ARM-REST-PAD_W0QQitemZ230125354780QQihZ013QQcategoryZ10076QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
791  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Rear end stamp on: May 06, 2007, 09:16:41 PM
Doesn't sound like a Firebird code.  68 Firebirds have about 16 different axle codes, 7 start with X  (XB, XC XD, XE, XF, XG, and XN) 9 start with Z (ZB, ZC, ZD, ZE, ZF, ZM, ZN, ZP and ZR).  Which axle tube is it on, drivers facing the back, or passenger facing the front?

JG is a code for a 2.73 axle from a 1973 X- body (Olds Omega, Pontiac Ventura, or Buick Apollo - not a Nova axle code). Whatever it is it is using the post 1971 GM coding pattern and was assembled at the GM gear and axle plant in Detroit on the 56th day of the year during the night  shift.
792  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: AM/FM Radio's and Tape players on: May 06, 2007, 09:21:06 AM
For 69 there was 3 AM/FM models, 2 underdash 8 track players, and 1 console mounted 8 track player.  Theres an AM/FM mono radio, an AM/FM multiplex radio with an external multiplex unit (the bluelight stereo), and then theres a late model year AM/FM multiplex with an internal multiplex component (the Yellow light stereo).  There is one version of 8 track players are for use with the AM and AM/FM mono radios, and one used with the multiplex radios.  The mounting differences are determined by if the car had a console or not.

The AM/FM mono is model number 91BFP1
The blue light stereo is 91BFM1
The yellow light stereo is 91BFM2
The underdash 8 track player is 91BT411
The underdash multiplex 8 track player is 91BT421
The console mount 8 track player is 91FT211

In 69 there is only one version of the 8 track player that mounted on the console, and it was used with the mono radio setups, or if no radio was ordered.  In 68 there was 2 different versions, one for the mono radios and one for the multiplex radio. If you ordered a muliplex radio, you got the two knob 91BT421 under dash mounted 8 track player  wheather you had a console, or not.

If your going to buy a console mounted 8 track, make sure it has the arm rest cover pad included with it.  They are not reproduced and are extremely hard to find.  You can find moslty everything else on Ebay but don't be shocked by the prices.  A console mounted 8 track player is going to run you between 500 and 750 for the player alone, a mono AM/FM is probably in the 400 to 500 range, and a multiplex setup is going to be over 1000 bucks complete. make sure you get the multiplex mounting bracket if your going that route as well since they are unique to the Camaro and  are not reproduced either.
793  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: z11 is it a fake? on: May 04, 2007, 11:06:20 AM
If its before 04C then its FAKE.

794  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: z11 is it a fake? on: May 02, 2007, 08:05:34 PM
The hardtops aren't pace cars.



I love pulling the Z10 owners chain on that subject.  Let the flames begin.
795  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN and cowl tag on: April 19, 2007, 08:34:06 AM
First U is the lower lower body paint code, second is the upper body paint code.  In your case both the upper and lower body is the same color.  If you had a Vinyl top then the second letter would be replaced with a number like 6 for white vinyl, or 2 for black.
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