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781  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Optional clock on 1969 Camaro? on: October 17, 2007, 05:45:24 AM
Clock was part of the U17 gauge package.  U17 obviously required a console to mount the gauges on.  You could order a clock without the U17 gauges.  If you ordered a tach you got a center mounted fuel gauge and could not get a clock.  Dealers may have installed a 68 console, or floor mounted clock (if you didn't have a console) if a buyer wanted one, but they were not available from the factory.
782  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: first Los 69 Camaro?? Vin?? on: October 13, 2007, 05:10:07 PM
They made some 08A cars at LA.
783  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Quadrajet - air cleaner "SPACER" originally used? on: October 07, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
No spacer in the AIM only a gasket.  L34/55 and L78 all use the same base so it probably just an incorrectly repro'ed part.  Guess we need pictures of original BB air cleaners and the repro versions.
784  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Starter Motor Numbers on: October 01, 2007, 08:30:33 PM
See this post:
785  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: L-89 pace car on: September 28, 2007, 11:38:49 AM
40k is less than half what a real L89 Pacecar is worth in No.2 (everyday driver) condition.  40K won't even get you a decent small block PC these days.

786  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 L78 Pace car ? on: September 27, 2007, 05:35:01 AM
Maybe a half dozen or so L89 pacecars are known including the 2 "real" pacecars.  An L89 with 38K miles, original drivetrain and paperwork is certainly going to be in the 100K+ range.  The better the body condition the more it worth, conversely if its a rust bucket it will be worth less but 100K is a good mid point price.
787  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposed 69 Camaro Pace Car Festival Car on Ebay on: September 26, 2007, 11:16:13 AM
The guards are RPO V32 and they were available on any Camaro.  My PC has them on the rear and i originally had the V31 front bumper guards, but found an endura front bumper for cheap money a few years ago so those are up in the attic.  I think 911 was a later Dupont paint code for the equivalent of dover white.
788  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 L-78 convertible on: September 22, 2007, 07:55:11 AM
Don't buy it to slap a coat of paint on it and think your going to get 70K for it either.  It will probably take you 40K worth of work to get a basket case back to no 2 condition, and the only way it will command any more than that at sale time is if it has the original drive train with paperwork or some other history. Otherwise its just a big block convertible that might even be considered as a clone and you won't get 40K for it.
789  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl tag decode help on: September 17, 2007, 06:12:17 PM
1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
37 = coupe body
7 = 1967 model year
L = Los Angeles, CA assembly plant (Van Nuys)
Decode for body number: 019113
04C = Built the Third week of April.
67-12637 = Custom Interior Coupe.
LOS = Built in Van Nuys California.
765 = Custom Black Bucket Seats.
Z = (A50) Strato Bucket Seats.
G-G = Car Color is Granada Gold
K349 = internal plant scheduling code.
1W = (A02) Tinted W/S only
2M = (M35) Powerglide Transmission
2G = (D55) Console front compartment
2R = (U80) Speaker rear
3L = (Z22) Rally Sport Package
4P = (L48) SS 350
790  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct '69 L-78 front springs? on: September 17, 2007, 11:14:47 AM
G31 and F41 were mutually exclusive, ie you can't have both on the same car.  G31 was special multileaf rear springs, and only 556 cars came equipped with them in 69.  F41 was special purpose front and rear springs and was only availble on non SS and Non Z28 camaros (either coupe or convertible), and came on 5929 Camaros in 69.  The F40 heavy duty suspension was only available on 6 cylinder coupes or convertibles.  I dont think any cars are recorded as having the F40 suspension.

I guess you could have G31 rear springs on a 69 SS, but they would be used with the standard (for the weigh options) front spring.  And since the G31 spring package came with the V32 rear bumperettes I would think that the ride height would be lowered if you had G31 on the car.
791  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct '69 L-78 front springs? on: September 17, 2007, 05:33:45 AM
Well heres the real 3 page one.

792  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct '69 L-78 front springs? on: September 15, 2007, 09:12:24 PM
My PDF file lost a page somehow it dropped the Z28 and BB page.  Heres all three pages of the spring chart.  If your front end hass an additional 288 pounds added to it you should have HA springs, not YO.  YO is for a small block coupe (307 or 327) with that much weight.
793  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct '69 L-78 front springs? on: September 15, 2007, 07:22:19 AM
Heres the GM spring selection charts for the 69 Camaros.  The list shows you the two letter spring code that corresponds to the tag that was on the springs.  There is another pair of charts that turns the letter code into the GM Service part number.
794  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct '69 L-78 front springs? on: September 14, 2007, 11:06:05 AM
Except for the 4 leaf rear spring on Z28's (which could be used on other cars with the righ combination of options) there is really no such thing as a big block L78 or L35 or L48 spring.  In 69 springs were selected by a computer based on the vehicle type (coupe or convertible), engine type (L6 or V8) and the options added to the car.  This was due to the federal bumper height requirements and GM's need to keep the bumper height within a fairly tight band.  You can get a GM part number for the front and rear springs by adding up your options, but I don't know of anyone who has correlated them 1 for 1 to the moog springs that most of the aftermarket places sell.  Eaton can probably do it though.
795  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Help! electrical question? on: September 11, 2007, 08:30:22 PM
Those are the two leads to the factory ammeter on the console.
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