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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: New body? on: July 27, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
Convertible with a coupe VIN and cowl tag (and vis-versa) is practically unsellable these days.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67 pacesetter sale on: July 16, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
How about this, a little pacesetter ad from 67.

http://youtu.be/PNBpX29Qtn0
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 Trim Tag D80 question on: July 12, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
D80 first appeared on tags Just after the time the firebirds were added to the assembly line at Norwood.  Probably had more to do with the trans am cars than the Camaros, but the option lists used in the "computer" creating the tags probably couldn't differentiate between a spoiler option on a Camaro, and one on a Firebird so all the cars with spoilers ended up with the code on their tags.
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl Tag Codes Sep 68 vs Sep 69 on: July 10, 2014, 04:06:52 PM
They will be in yellow paint pen or grease pen UNDER the glue used to attach the package tray vinyl to the metal structure of the seat support.  Very important that they be under the glue, because I have seen people add them to cars but the markings were on top of the glue residue.  People will do anything for a buck these days.
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Farewell And The Best For Ed! on: July 05, 2014, 07:59:12 PM
No bodys getting banned,  that's sort of a wakeup call we just don't need the animosity spreading from one tread to another.  Now if people want to be contructive and start a new thread about axle stamps in any particular time period, that would help bullit65 confirm his is factory correct, or not that would be a much better use of everyone's time, instead of what's going on now.  Afterall isn't that what the site is supposed to be about, no one here is infallible, all we can do is make the best statements we can based on the info at hand, as time goes on and more info becomes available opinions change.  My axle it  too early (end of April) in this case so I can't start it off.  Lets see some axle stamps and pumpkin casting dates from everyone.
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Farewell And The Best For Ed! on: July 05, 2014, 05:56:08 PM
Wow, I think someones shooting to be the second person ever banned from the site.  I suggest you drop it, the stamp on your axle is not consistant with others of the time period.  Could be a legitimate reason like the stamp broke at the assembly plant before yours was stamped, or it could have been restamped to match your POP.  Your not helping figure it out, but then I guess its just easier to stir the pot, or put up a smoke screen.
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 67 Camaro Standard AC Switch on: July 02, 2014, 10:06:21 AM
Its an electrical switch triggered by the door linkage for the door that lets the air into the car from the suitcase.  Theres no vacuum switches on a 69, except the one that operates the heater isolation valve, and the two dampers in the cowl area (one on top of the cowl, the other behind the passenger kick panel)
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Zone Office Delivery on: July 01, 2014, 10:04:19 PM
Yes it would show the zones address on the top of the shipper copy and the window sticker, then when it was sold the Zone office would annotate on the shipper copy and window sticker what the purpose of the car was, and a date when it was placed in service after it had served its original purpose .  Then there was a signature line for the Zone Manager to sign.  I've got one shipper copy from a 69 Pacecar originally delivered to the indianapolis Zoine office for Courtesy Service with USAC and it was then placed in service on 6/19/69.  It also has a note on it about Shipping it to Baker Chevrolet typed in on the bottom.  I can only assume that is the dealer who sold it in June.
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Real SS? on: June 23, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
How many fuel lines between the fuel tank and the fuel pump, one or two?
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original Black Primer Underside of Body 69 Z/28's on: June 23, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
Anything under the car is overspray of either the primer used, body color, sill or firewall blackout.  The bottom of the car was never purposely sprayed with either primer or body color paint.  At least at Norwood since the body was  sitting on a truck about 18: off the floor, there was no way to physically get under the body to spray anything after the phosphating process was complete.  LA held the bodies higher on suspended carriers so they are more likely to have more overspray, but again it was not done on purpose.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original Black Primer Underside of Body 69 Z/28's on: June 23, 2014, 09:41:09 AM
The black is a phosphate coating, any other colors, greys, blacks reds etc are primers sprayed on in the paint booths
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: June 12, 2014, 06:04:20 AM
Would assume that the black tail panel delete would not be a common special paint instruction, but if you could delete it Fisher would have to do it.  That instruction would have to be linked to the 4K, 4N code as well as those codes are also associated with the tail panel blackout and the traction arm on the rear axle.
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: June 11, 2014, 11:58:43 AM
All done by GM.  Other than color, only D96 stripes,  Z28 stripes, and black tail panel for big blocks would be affected by a special paint order.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 100K 69 Z/28 code 52 on: June 11, 2014, 06:10:46 AM
It is not consistent with other tags of the same week, I have a bunch of tags from the same timeframe as this one and they don't have the same characters style on several of the numbers.  So yes I would say it is a repro.  The body number is also probably the original number though.  No telling what the car was originally now, was it just a color change on a Z, or was it a base 307 coupe.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: June 11, 2014, 06:05:53 AM
But Fisher had their own version of a broadcast sheet that told the workers what to add to the car, it was removed from the tub before the body was sent over to Chevrolet.
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