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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Yanko on: March 18, 2014, 07:50:30 PM
That one is definitely a "YANKO".
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 x77 originality on: March 17, 2014, 02:01:24 PM
Not with the info provided, without actually seeing the tag and preferably a bunch of pictures of the car.  An X77 is a base (no style trim) Z28 so it can not be an RS, that would require an X33 code.  Treat it as a V8 Camaro unless you are 100% sure the tag is real and matches the cars VIN.  Original drive train is gone, so there is no premium for the car over another 8 cylinder coupe.  To purchase and build a date correct (not original) drivetrain would easily run you over 10 to 15K, so take that off any Z28 premium the seller is trying to get.
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: PACE CAR TROUBLES on: February 25, 2014, 08:14:52 PM
As I remember it the owner had just bought it at an auction in Florida, and was bringing it home when he came upon another accident and jackknifed the trailer and flipped it, the trailer and the pickup pulling it off the side of the highway.  Doubt he had any or enough insurance on it at the time to do any meaningful repairs to the car, but don't know what became of it.
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Were 'Pacesetter' VIN's period different? on: February 23, 2014, 12:42:11 PM
This is the text of the pacesetter announcement:

"For Release: IMMEDIATELY
 (4878)

"DETROIT -- Chevrolet and its dealers are launching a nationwide Camaro Pacesetter sales campaign this month to mark the selection of the Camaro as pace car for this year's Indianapolis 500 race on Memorial Day.
 
"The campaign, running through June, will feature specially equipped Camaros and Fleetside pickup trucks at special savings. There will be special advertising support in the various media, including large newspaper ads, network television and radio plus spot radio and TV and dealer merchandising and promotional material.
"During the Pacesetter event, Camaro buyers can get the special hood stripe and floor-mounted shift for three-speed transmission at no extra cost with special savings also available on Powerglide automatic transmission, power steering and power brakes.
 
"Also offered is a half-ton Fleetside pickup truck with special savings when equipped with some of the most popular options and accessories. These include custom appearance items, pushbutton radio, a larger capacity six-cylinder engine and heavy-duty suspension.
 "4 -- 10 -- 67"

Just to be clear the "pacesetter promotion" had nothing to do with the production of any of the 67 pace cars, although dealers are known to have ordered white convertibles with deluxe blue interiors to try and cash in on the pace cars used at the track.
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl Tag Check on: February 19, 2014, 08:05:03 PM
Not if the donor body had a VIN number originally, ie it was another 69 Camaro made by GM.
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl Tag Check on: February 19, 2014, 02:13:29 PM
Moving a vin tag, and sheet metal sections with the hidden vin numbers on it from one car to another body that had a different VIN on it originally is a felony in every state in the union.  Moving a VIN tag, and hidden vins numbers from one car to a replica body like a Dynacorn is OK, as the Dynacorn body is considered a large replacement part, it was never a car before the VINs were transfered to it.  That said, whats a ZL1 VIN tag on a replacement body with a non original engine and drivetrain worth?  don't know but it shouldn't be much higher than 0.
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stainless Chambered exhaust on: February 08, 2014, 08:53:23 AM
How does grey hound work with items like that? I found a floor jack in texas that I want to buy, but have no great way to get. The handle is complex to remove so the seller does not want to take it off. thanks

http://www.busfreighter.com/faq.html

Or

http://www.shipgreyhound.com/e/pages/Home.aspx
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stainless Chambered exhaust on: February 07, 2014, 03:36:39 PM
Stuff it in a greyhound bus, and you can probably ship it station to station for less than 100 bucks.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Headlight Switch on: February 06, 2014, 07:34:06 PM
69 P&A manual 721a say 1995173 is the 69 headlight switch for non RS with console, 1995175 is non RS without console, 1995176 is RS without console, and 1995177 is RS with console.

1995169 is the 67 headlight switch for all cars, and 68 non RS cars, 1995167 is for all 68 with RS.
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z on ebay - twin on: February 03, 2014, 06:33:41 AM
That tag pictured above is a repro tag, I've had an image of it since August of 2009.  Since all the other dates on the driveline match up with a know car, probably a color change, or addition of the RS options.
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Would this considered relatively early build? on: February 01, 2014, 10:03:53 PM
Nope, 300K, vins started at 300001 and went up from there, 500K in 69.
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Would this considered relatively early build? on: February 01, 2014, 08:00:13 AM
There are 4 different body number sequences at the LA plant, one for standard interior coupes, one for deluxe interior coupes, one for standard interior convertibles, and one for deluxe interior convertibles all running at the same time.  Each sequence started at 1 and worked upward from there, so there are 4 cars with the same body number until one of the sequences ran out of numbers.  Deluxe interior convertible body numbers have the lowest total body numbers at around 2100, and standard interior coupes have the highest total body numbers.  The style trim number would be different on each series of tags, 12437 for standard interior coupe, 12367 for deluxe interior coupe, 12467 for standard interior convertible, and 12667 for deluxe interior convertible.  These numbers are not to be confused with L6 or V8 engine designations like the VIN tag would show, even though the series of numbers appear similar.  Take your VIN and subtract 100K from it, and that is your approximate build number, ie if the VIN is L110645, then your car would have been the 10,645th camaro built at the LA plant, and the 8031st standard interior coupe.
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Would this considered relatively early build? on: January 31, 2014, 09:17:38 PM
That's the 8037th standard interior coupe built at the LA plant.  Its also a 3rd week of November built car.  Production started 2 and a half months before this car.  If you were buying parts for the car, or classifying it as early middle or late production it would be early in those 3 classifications, but its not a particularly early built car.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 31, 2014, 03:59:44 PM
You have to remember that service parts are not the same as a production part.  If the service parts division already had a 14 or 15" trim ring for another car already in production they would use that ring as the service part and not create a new Camaro specific service part.  All a service part had to do was be functionally equivalent to the original production part, it did not have to be the exact same part.
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 30, 2014, 03:36:59 PM
it WAS the car's birthday...  Smiley..   The few days in production was the 'incubation' period.. Smiley

So Gary, when in this process would you consider is the point of conception?   Grin

Paul

When the zone had finished checking and approving the order and delivered it to the plant for assembly.
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